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Originally posted by: medha16

Mais, u be back...another lovely post! I always look forward to your daily analysis. 😊

Nandini has always been a headstrong girl, much too mature for her age, already shouldering a lot of responsibilities since she was very young. She has always been the protector, the caregiver, the one to take care of all the shit happening around her. Because of her sweet, unassuming nature, many people have taken advantage of her and yet nothing has deterred this girl from remaining a pillar for the others who needed her. Maybe, precisely the reason why not many people has ever asked her about herself, her likes and dislikes, her feelings and emotions...they have always expected her to be the shield for them .Manik and Nandu are similar in this regard. Both of them have hid their wants, desires, emotions to put the needs of others first. Probably the reason why both of them are so alone now. Nandini doesn't have anyone to share her grief with, to unburden herself to...the only person who would listen was Manik himself.She trusted him, he came like a burst of lightning and shook up her entire world. She began to see a lot of herself in him and they started depending on one another. But that fateful night ruined it all. She lost her reason to trust, to love , to share.

He invaded her world like no other and when he left, he left behind a wake of destruction- of her hopes, of her beliefs, of her faith and of her love.

She is broken now...completely but in spite of it all she tries to pull herself together...for her friend who needs saving, for her family, for her dreams. She cannot wallow in self-pity and grief, she needs to take charge. The tears will stop, she will regain her self-confidence and she WILL move forward.

But will she be the same again? Perhaps not!

She will be wary and jaded, her trusting self and her innocence will die aslow painful death, she will grow up but she will do it the hard way.

I love it how despite Nandini having all the characteristics which will make her into a typical rug people can walk over whenever they are done with her, she never allows anyone to do just that. There's a firm line she's drawn and she doesn't let anyone cross it. And when they do, she fights tooth and nail to get back that control. MaNan's identical selflessness is something that I always felt. In each other they found that outlet where they felt ke aah..here's someone with whom I can share all my real feelings without fear because of all the similarity.

Innocence and hope are what made Nandini and now she's losing both. After all this is over, will she be the same? No. The main question is, will she be accepted when she becomes whatever these events shape her to be...if yes, then how?

Originally posted by: TheBlueAngel

Oh god, Mais, hw do u do it??Tere post ne phir se rula diya..
If it was sme1 else, she would hve been broken beyond repair bt nt her, nt Nandu..i mean she doesnt evn hs a choice..she hs soo much 2 tke care ov dat she cnt evn tke out tym n mourn 4 her loss..
bt as dey say
"Smetyms u jst hve 2 die a little inside in order 2 b reborn and rise again as stronger n wiser version of You"..
i knw its no fairytale bt dis girl really deserves a happy ending..
edited:
i like seriously dnt understnd CVs..Dis was supposed 2 b abt 'Yaariyan' den y is Nandu alone??y doesnt she hs any1 2 share her problems wid..evn da strongest person needs a friend 2 rely on, n a shoulder 2 cry on..y couldnt she hve atleast 1 frnd who would understnd n be wid her no matter what..🥺

Aiiee! I did not want to make anyone cry! 😲

Yeah, she has too much to live for but god..she doesn't have anyone who'd want to live with her? Well...there is but he's being a fool. So true, the line you quoted. Crash and burn, that's how stars are made. She deserves her share of happiness. Not a long journey of trouble and one last frame of happiness and fade to black, the end. She deserves her days and years of happiness after all the loss that she's gone through. Every rule of life states that she deserves happiness..

Okay, your edited bit made me cry. Everyone has some friend or some partner, why is she so alone? Manik has Cabir who's calling him out to all lies but Nandini? She doesn't evne have anyone to talk to...not her fireflies, not her Aiyappa. C'mon CVs. Give this girl a friend at least 😭😭

Originally posted by: lostmymusic.

Wish, you misinterpreted the bold line. Maybe I couldn't explain fully. When I said that Nandini counts on Dhruv, it's not in a "savior" kind of way. Dhruv has never been Nandini's savior in the typical terms. He doesn't fight her battles for her. He gives her the strength to fight her battles on her own. When she's feeling down and she meets him, she finds this new found strength in her to carry on. Ab ye logical hai ya nahin, kya hai ye..idk, but it's there. It's always been. Like I said, Nandini doesn't know nor does she care for the background behind Dhruv's being there for her. For her what matters is that Dhruv is there. And she expected him to remain there. She doesn't seek him, he seeks her. And he finds her when she needs someone to draw strength from the most. Bhale se it was Manik who pushed Dhruv to be there since the beginning, she didn't get strength from Manik. She got strength from Dhruv to fight Manik. I can't undermine this fact.

The thing is, they always listened to each other. Even when they hated each other, their words affected each other. That won't go away. So Nandini not listening to Manik would be OOC of her. The thing with her is that while before she thought behind why he said something, why he did something (which ended in her concluding that he's no Monster), now she's so done with him that she's taking things a bit on face value. I felt that she's so tired that she doesn't even want to argue with him anymore..just anything to get the conversation over..

@Bold: This is what I meant.. This is how trust is built.. because even as an enemy, everything he told her was true.. which is why, even at their worst she doesn't question his word now.. Again, I reiterate this is all subconscious, because there is no active thought process going on.. it is too early for that.. in fact at this point, I think she is more likely stop herself from thinking of him at all if possible.. but Nandu is not stupid (or Navya) so if she really doubted his intentions (deep down inside), there would be no question of buying anything.. face value or otherwise..

As for the Dhruv thing, I just don't see it I guess..even when the DhruNi hug happened, she completely lied about everything and pretended to be okay just for his sake.. how is this her 'drawing strength' from him??? Almost all their interactions follow this same pattern..
I completely disagree with 'she got the strength to fight Manik from Dhruv'.. Not at all, she got the strength from Manik himself.. his challenging her is what led to her discovering that side of herself.. he is the one who brought 'Fighter Nandini' to the forefront.. and this is because he is the only one who saw that in her, even before she saw it in herself.. Remember how he was so sure she would come back for that pen? This is how he knew.. because this is the Nandini he had seen in her eyes, and this is the one he went on to become so obsessed with..
In their story, Dhruv's contribution is so miniscule and so replaceable that just about anyone or anything could've played his part and it would've changed nothing at all..

Originally posted by: Medha.S

You said everything so I have nothing to say ...

The last part though. That is what I have been thinking about, too. If they show her going back to being the same person -- so innocent and trustful of others with so much faith in her own trusts. She is not coming back anymore. At least if they wanna show it realistically, then that is how it will be. The trust will never come back completely, small pieces will be missing.

Just copy-Pasting from AT..

But seeing from a realistic POV, How? Just how is Nandini supposed to trust Manik completely ever again like she did before -- He broke her trust a day after she confessed that she WILL always trust him ... In her place, any girl even if she gets back with the guy after he grovels, cries, grovels, cries some more, apologizing every way ever introduced and every way never ever seen and still, HOW? would you trust the guy like that again -- It is kinda tainted forever.

It will sneak up at you when you are alone or when you see someone else going through it or when you have another fight in the future, or 10 years alter when you have another big fight or when he does something stupid again and can't look in your eyes ... or acts differently because he did something he cant tell you about ... and even when it is nothing like what you are imagining, that doubt will sneak up on you ... and would you feel guilty for doubting? Maybe, but you won't be able to stop yourself.

WORD to what you said! In most cases like this, when a trust is broken like this..the most natural route that's taken is separation. No matter how much two people seem meant to be, some hurt can't be compensated for. I know this won't happen here. And CVs really know how to deal with relationships. So I am really looking forward to how Nandini's healing will happen. How this BIG crack that has happened in Manik will be filled. Because the hurt like this never goes away. The little seed is planted, ab 100% trust seems a bit impossible. At vulnerable moments this whole issue will creep it. It'll always exist between them, waiting in the corner just waiting to attack.

But, if two people want..they can take the hurt and turn into something that'll make their trust even more ironclad. Because their case is a bit different. It's not like one of them cheated on the other..it's a basically stupid case of noble idiocy which won't do anything good. When it's realized that they just can NOT do without each other...they can make this work. Of course, it'd be Manik who'd have to make it work. Make her trust her again. Assure her that he won't leave her, ever again. And I hope she lets him do all the heavy work and takes her sweet time to get to the stage where they left off..

Mais, I just wanted to say what a beautiful thoughtful post dedicated to Nandini, I have tears in my eyes just reading it.

One thing I do like to add, is that how Nandini is literally spitting out words, like how she said "I DON'T trust my JUDGMENT anyMORE!" It was spitting fire, and how when she said "I have to find harshad and tell him to keep away FROM NAVYA"

I just..everything has broken for her, her eyes have become lifeless, her words are not cheery, I swear she wasn't even like this when FAB 5 ragged her.

Originally posted by: 13thwish

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As for the Dhruv thing, I just don't see it I guess..even when the DhruNi hug happened, she completely lied about everything and pretended to be okay just for his sake.. how is this her 'drawing strength' from him??? Almost all their interactions follow this same pattern..
I completely disagree with 'she got the strength to fight Manik from Dhruv'.. Not at all, she got the strength from Manik himself.. his challenging her is what led to her discovering that side of herself.. he is the one who brought 'Fighter Nandini' to the forefront.. and this is because he is the only one who saw that in her, even before she saw it in herself.. Remember how he was so sure she would come back for that pen? This is how he knew.. because this is the Nandini he had seen in her eyes, and this is the one he went on to become so obsessed with..
In their story, Dhruv's contribution is so minuscule and so replaceable that just about anyone or anything could've played his part and it would've changed nothing at all..

Originally posted by: charminggenie

This I agree too.

Dhruv has been the constant in Nandini's life since she joined SPACE, but with new experiences and all the changes all her initial impressions and judgement became shaky specially interms of Manik. So in a away when she says Dhruv only you have not changed, it's like she is trying to salvage some confidence in her own judgement, she cannot have him pecked wrong too. That is why as she went on embracing the new-ness of relationships her bond with Dhruv suffered, because it was just stagnate.

Nandini has always driven her strength from within or from Manik himself. Like he does it now too, challenging her, pushing her buttons because he knows she reacts to it,his taunts give her courage to fight and punch . Like when she was crying in the corridor after Musicana , he used a taunt to get her back on her feat - this is what they do to each other. He knows she will always rise to protect her self-respect especially against him. This is what attracted him to her. He saw the fighter in her while other stopped at her fragility. Hence when he see her crying like this in the store room today, it punches him- because that is not Nandini, if she can cry infront o him like that means he has hurt her beyond repair. That is his fear.

Genie..🤗
Everything you said about MaNan is spot on! absolutely agree

It's DhruNi that confuses me... Was this the CVs original intention or did the popularity of MaNan lead to this dilution of their bond? At this point, I fail to see his impact oh her life at all.. He is just there.. like a mildly reassuring physical presence.. and even that is dicey.. today when she saw him her first reaction was annoyance.. She had to remind herself to be polite to him.. why is that? Is interacting with him so much of an effort because she knows she will have to edit her thoughts and she doesn't have the energy for that? She is nice, he is nice, they talk about nothing (and Manik) and he lous her.. Am sorry.. but I just don't understand this equation at all..😔

P.S: Sorry Mais for hijacking your post..

Originally posted by: 13thwish

It's DhruNi that confuses me... Was this the CVs original intention or did the popularity of MaNan lead to this dilution of their bond? At this point, I fail to see his impact oh her life at all.. He is just there.. like a mildly reassuring physical presence.. and even that is dicey.. today when she saw him her first reaction was annoyance.. She had to remind herself to be polite to him.. why is that? Is interacting with him so much of an effort because she knows she will have to edit her thoughts and she doesn't have the energy for that? She is nice, he is nice, they talk about nothing (and Manik) and he lous her.. Am sorry.. but I just don't understand this equation at all..😔

P.S: Sorry Mais for hijacking your post..

Post not hijacked. In fact loving this discussion.

I guess I'm just trying to get into Nandini's head when she calls Dhruv a special friend for her. I want to know the why of it. Hence me saying that she draws strength from her. Okay, I'll agree that Nandini drew most of her strength from Manik. the way he ridiculed her, it pushed her to prove him wrong. To fight him every step of the way. But I don't want to ignore Dhruv in all this. Yeah, recently Dhruv's involvement in Nandini's life has been very confused and bleh but was it always the case? No. If we are dissecting the initial MaNan, we have to consider initial DhruNi as well. Like..from before they became friends. Manik may have sent Dhruv to safeguard Fab5's victims but Dhruv helping out Nandini was on his own wish and freewill. Dhruv's hypocritical nature is not here to be discussed, that's another topic. Like I said, Nandini is not concerned with background of Dhruv's reason for being with her..she related to Dhruv just being there.

Dhruv is one presence in her life that she has tried to maintain and keep. She wanted him as her friend, she tried to make it happen. There must be a reason for it. Maybe the reason isn't as deep as her drawing strength for him, maybe I'm assuming too much, but the girl has reason to want to be Dhruv. Let's not talk about the recent scenes of theirs because ab tou Dhruv hi doesn't make sense so dissecting DhruNi is a waste of time. But back then when he did make sense, when in his silent way he helped her land the right step when she was falling, back when she had butterflies seeing him...uss waqt ka Dhruv is special for her. And Nandini is someone who doesn't let go of her special things so easily, the fireflies were an exception because circumstances and shit.

This Nandini is desperately trying to maintain whatever sanity is left in her life. And Dhruv's presence is a part of that sanity. I guess I am not saying it clearly but Dhruv's presence in Nandini's life is necessary for her not because of an emotional connect but more of a sentimental one from her part. He's the proof for that when times were dark before, she got through it. And now she can do so to. Like I said, Dhruv doesn't fight her battles for her but his presence sure does allow her to win her battles on her own..

^^ Agree Maisu.