I DO NOT AGREE!!!! - Page 2

Aptly put SRK addict! Although I fiercely defend jalapeno in this crowd, I don't think I have ever tried to justify her actions. I almost always end up asking people to understand her as a women or if they can't, then just don't shun her and tear her character to no end. I think I have almost always ended up asking others to be kind rather than take her as right or wrong.

As far as putting myself in her shoes, that I can't do. Simply cause I won't be able to predict my rxn. in a similar situation.

The world has been intolerably insensitive to her. If you carefully examine her life, her dreams have always shattered, her faith in love & friendship broken. So has others', but I always relate to her/ stand by her as a woman. I might not be able to agree with her actions, but she is justified in what she is doing from her perspective. I think her life so far has given her a misplaced sense of principles. To protect her marriage, whatever little is left of her hopes and debt to prithvi, she protects cause of her principles. As for the dreaded phone-call, it hasn't happened yet, therefore I will hold off my opinion until I see how it all played out. You see, she thinks she is right in doing so, therefore she does. I am disdainful of who say that women deserve such food on their plate rather than of people who are overtly & extremely critical of her.

Sigh, I have criticized Angad a lot for his loose character. I have neglected prithvi and his feelings uptil now just cause his character wasn't/isn't very appealing to me. Maybe, I shouldn't, but I can't help it... I have even asked others to not dwell on the past and just take the present, and look at character's present. But, I guess it doesn't work....I guess we need to hold onto the past to justify the present.

Right now, situation is pretty grim for every single character. None of them deserve wht they are getting, and none are to be blamed!

YOu know, we need a scape-goat...we pick an easier target, that is all. Krips is a target for who see angad in the right and vice-versa.

But you certainly can't deny that all her actions have been reactions to what angad or Prithvi do. Other times, her insecurities have played a role. Am I scape-goating others now? Now, why do I feel that I am justifying myself...sigh, let me say one last thing...

I don't think krips need to be shunned for who she is. We might not agree with her, be critical of her actions, but it doesn't give us any right to say that she 'DESERVES' it or declare her morally wrong.

If we see from the character's perspective, we won't find any reason to blame any of them. However, we always look at them from the sidelines, knowing every single detail of their lives and past actions. Hence, it is quite hard for us to understand why they do what they do and to some extend ignore why they are the way they are.

Ok, I have said enough...didn't mean to! I hope you understood what I was trying to say...and it didn't come out as jumbled thoughts.

Just wanted to add...that if you watched today's episode end, I didn't like that she has put herself in a plate and is serving herself to prithivi to prove her loyalty....did it seem to you that she was doing it all out of vengence? To me, it didn't. It seemed more like an act out of desperation. I donno about the phone-call...hopefully, it won't be as distasteful as we think.

All I ask for is a bit of understanding and kindness, but apparently it too is a lot to ask for since all of us like being the 'moral police'.

good post hafsa dee. 👏 👏

hafsa wrote:
A person's body is their temple and to give your body to someone you don't love, is a form defiling yourself.......this might sound harsh, but I feel that the physical act of love between two people is a sacred act. Just like marriage, this physical aspect of a relationship is sanctified.


u r rite.Physical act of a love is a sacred act and doing it to take a revenge is really disgusting.

hafsa wrote:
To say a persons actions are justified, even if you don't condone it 100%, you have to put yourself in that persons shoes, you have to walk a mile in their lives, and think of whether you would do the same thing, were you in that persons place......well, I've tried to imagine myself in Kripa's situation, and I can say this, I don't think I can ever see myself doing something like firstly sleeping with someone I don't love, and that just to prove a point to the one I do love, and secondly to call the other person so that he can hear the act in all it's entirety.....so no, I cannot find any form of justification for what Kripa is about to do.

it is true that if we want to justify a person we should take their position and think about it.Circumstances make a man evil or good.AK are in a position, where they can only see the hatred towards each other and to give each other pain they are ready to stoop low as much as they can.They can't see anything beyond it.They only want to destroy each other .
Like dadi said yesterday: " naphrat mein badal chuka hai inka pyar. ek dusre pe barbad karne par tula hai. ais na ho ki badle ke aag mein ye is had thak gir jaye ki wahan se utne ka koi rasta na ho" (I don't remember the exact words)
They are such a world class idiots they will not realise anything . 😭 😭

Originally posted by: destinyz

hafsooooo..where r u these days..???? i miss ur post and poems......and of course u...😃

ok getiing bac to wat u said... i think i'll put on my protective gear too.... coz i agree 10000000%

krips isnt just betraying angad,she's betraying herself,not to mention prithvi..... i mean hello???!!!!

how can u treat a guy who's always been there for u...he thinks ur doin it coz u'v accepted him...but ur not....!!!!!!ur just getting bac at angad.... ok ...so he murdered coke-guzzle josh...but krips doesnt know that!!!

thats just not done girl!!!!!😕

Hey Zuraida....so, I come after my posts,hey. Just Kidding!!! I missed you too, stax. We don't seem to be online together anymore.

You darling you. And I agree with you. By doing this, she has no self respect. She is disgarding her sinskaars, and is betraying her heart, her body and her soul. I just don't see how she'll be able to live with what she's about to do.....not to mention the absolute hell Angad is going to make of her life.

As for Prithvi, this dude gets no sympathy from me, because no matter how many tears he sheds, no matter how much sad music they play in the background, the first and foremost thing that is on my mind when I see his is "DUDE, you cold bloodedly murdered someone!!!".....So, I don't give a flying fig about him either way!!!

Originally posted by: suadvani

I'm sure you will get blasted.. but I for one do agree with you, Kripa has laid her bed now she must lay in it.. pun unintended.. Hafsa - well written well said.

Thanks dear. I see you're fairly new here, and I haven't been around to do this, so Welcome to our family!!

Excellent post Hafsa, excellent... I couldn't have said it better. And I agree with u 100%.

Cheers...

Originally posted by: queenkumar

Hafsa, I agree with u all the way...u r so right and beautifully said...wow 👏

Awww.....Thanks for the compliment, Sangu Di. 😳 😳

Originally posted by: nikkii99

Hafsu di!👏Every word u said makes sense and helps me understand the situation better. Don't worry di, ur not alone. Im also shocked and bitter about Kripa's revenge taking tactics.

Hmm, so Mrs. Bose's decided to sleep with Mr. Bose. Finally! Er...why?? She loves him!!! Nooooooo. Then? Is it pure lust? And they're two consenting adults who are mentally, physically, emotionally ready for it? No! It's
not even lust u know. Then what is it? "Uh-huh, just wana prove a point to my ex, u know, nothing much. " All Ill say is girl, ur playing dumb. Wake up before it's too late. Before u start feeling something close to disgust for yourself. What others think may not even matter anymore then. When u are not able to look yourself in the eye, nothing or nobody matters then.

Nicely said, Nikki. 👏 👏 👏

You're right. We all know that Its not love and it definately isn't a case of lust.....Well, acutally, its lust on Prithvi's side....after all, we've all seen how he contantly looks at Kripa in a lascivious manner....it gives me the creeps.

And wht reallt get my hackles raised is that the only one who's going to be happy with this is Prithvi.....the cold-blooded murderer, Prithvi.....Prithvi, who once again is gonna get what he wants, handed to him on a bloody platter.


Kripa's warped sense of logic really stupifies me, you know!!

Originally posted by: Nannu

Awww...Haffu...

Where were u these days jaan 😕 ..We missed u alot.. 😳 ..

Awww...u put up good points 😃 ..

God bless U dear 😛
Nandita 😳

Aww Nannu. I missed you too. My aunt's in hospital, so I didn't feel like logging on these past two days.....but I missed you guys sooo much to stay away for long.

wow ... dearie ... well writen! Hope that everything goes on the mend at ur end soon. Next, let me just say that after reading ur take, I can safely say that u wont need ur protective gear!!!!!

Let me just clarify wat I was saying in my other post as well... and we can still sgree to disagree later on, okies?


Truth be told, I think kripa's desperate move towards prithvi was to be expected ... a) angad pushed her too hard with his poisonous barbs and b) she was just trapped b/w a whole lot of crumbling walls: an ex-flame who's hell bent on destroying u and u want to but can't scream bloody murder, coz ppl wont beleive u - and, here's the clincher: that one guy -( who incidentally happens to be ur hubby) who trusts u - come hell or high water - has been dis-illusioned for what seems like gud( due a major screw up on ur part!!) - ok... now what do u do? emotionally u r frazzled and disoriented - ur life ( ok, it wasnt perfect) but had semblance of normalcy to it in a way) is about to turn to dust in front of u...

So ... u make the best on-the-spur-of-the-momeent decision that you can .... u think fast ... u know he's been dying to get u in the sack, u know that he's been making puppy eyes at you for yrs : so, to stop the leaning tower from doubling over : u do what u can : u take out the ace frm ur pack and u use it ... That much is making sense in my eyes...

Yes... she is desecrating a temple.. yes, she is doing it wilfuly, yes she is being deliberately bitchy and yes ... she intends on proving a sick point to her ex-flame : But hey ! I think that 'needs must when the devil drives'... Me - call me weird - I can Stomach all this.

However, I totaaly agree wid u on one count : Foning him while doing the act wid her husband - that is tres tres distasteful! I dont condone this bit ... I never will and wont even forgive krips for it : this is way too below the belt.

Originally posted by: SRK Addict

A person's body is their temple and to give your body to someone you don't love, is a form defiling yourself.......this might sound harsh, but I feel that the physical act of love between two people is a sacred act. Just like marriage, this physical aspect of a relationship is sanctified.

Yes... beautifully said .... it is indeed a temple ... but sometimes H! Reality ends up making u do things which u 'never' thougt were possible: That is why they say: never say never! ....

Great reply Reeps. I always love reading your posts. Meant to reply earlier, but was busy with a client.

Originally posted by: reeps

Right now, situation is pretty grim for every single character. None of them deserve wht they are getting, and none are to be blamed!

YOu know, we need a scape-goat...we pick an easier target, that is all. Krips is a target for who see angad in the right and vice-versa.

You're right when you say that this is unfair on all the characters, because they don't deserve what fate has handed them.


As for picking the easier target…....I hope that I've never done that just because one character is weaker than the other. Yes, I do champion Angad most of the time, but never let it be said that I blindly support all his actions. There were times, plenty of times where I blasted his actions. So it's not a matter of supporting the character we like best, or who we think is in the right. It's a critique of her actions, and I have done the same to Angad plenty of times. It's a matter of how I view it, and of how I view her actions.

Originally posted by: reeps

But you certainly can't deny that all her actions have been reactions to what angad or Prithvi do. Other times, her insecurities have played a role…..

I don't deny this. Angad's actions have always caused her to act irrationally. She reacts to his actions, but it's the same with him. She reacts to his actions, which makes him react to hers and on and on they go, in this vicious circle. I've stated in my post that it's not a blame game, that's why I presented both points of views, and ended it with my personal opinion.

Originally posted by: reeps

Just wanted to add...that if you watched today's episode end, I didn't like that she has put herself in a plate and is serving herself to prithivi to prove her loyalty....did it seem to you that she was doing it all out of vengence? To me, it didn't. It seemed more like an act out of desperation. I donno about the phone-call...hopefully, it won't be as distasteful as we think.

It was an act of desperation, but it was also partly vengeance, after all, when Angad walked out of the rehersal hall, she did say that what she's about to do will have him in tears, and regretting his actions….something like that.


As for the telephone, well, I know it's not yet taken place, and I hope it never does, but since we were given the info, we speculate, critique and comment on it.

Originally posted by: reeps

All I ask for is a bit of understanding and kindness, but apparently it too is a lot to ask for since all of us like being the 'moral police'.

Hmmmm………I do try to be understanding, or I'd like to think that I am, but isn't it our right to critique the show, the characters, as we the viewers find them to be. Isn't it our right to place our opinions on the show, the characters, as we see them. It's not a matter of being the "moral police". It's a matter of thinking of the situation and how we would react to it, and frankly me being disheartened, angry, disgusted by the apparent phone call, well, I can't help how that titbit of news made me feel. We get emotionally involved in the show, we have vested plenty time on the characters, so we do have the right to react the way we do. I'm not outright shunning her, or casting her off, I just can't see myself justifying her actions.

Who knows, maybe once this actually happens, and we've all seen how it plays out, I'll change my mind, but based on the information that we've been given, the situation does look pretty bleak.

And lets face it, were Angad to have done this to Kripa, The whole forum would have been outraged, including me, so its not a matter of taking sides, or judging people, its a matter of what gut emotions we feel when hearing and seeing these things.