how many were killed in MB war.. - Page 3

Trust me, Internet is not a bad resource to use.. Even most of the newspapers, books, journals, magazines etc have their Internet websites where they put the exact same content.. If you cite a book or a e-book, if the contents are the same, why does it make a difference?

Originally posted by: shyam.rathi

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I've also read in one other post in MB forum that India has made a lots of scientific advancements since the Vedic era.. all the points given in that post are taken directly from a spam email circulating on Internet since last one decade.. I was wondering if the author of that post can give some verifiable references about the claims.. I think We should learn to separate mythology from actual science..

my arguments r not bsed on spam emails. our jyotish (astrologers) can exactly say the time of solar eclipses n lunar eclipses without using any telescopes. How? it is a myth. Indians r doing it long before the birth of Keplar n Copernicus. will u call it mytholgy?
We had knowledge of mettalurgy. our ancient temples r proof ofthe fact that we had good knowledge of architecture

Wtihout reading vedas how can one comment on what they r saying

a discussion based on assumptions n doutful authorities will not be that much fruitful. we all have agreed that internet sources like wikipedia r not much reliable. only MB book is reliable. whatever we r saying now abt the spread of vedic civilisation or actual area of Krukshetra at the time of MB or no. of army or abt the rulers from all over the world who took part in MB everything is based on our assumption. I think we should refer MB book to to know abt the rulers who took part in MB war. One thing is sure all soldiers must not have have jumped into the war in same day. we shud gather more knowledge abt how war were conducted in that era.
only few week have left for my exam so right now I cant take through study of MB.

One thing is sure that a through study of MB will be helpful in ascertaining the truth

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

my arguments r not bsed on spam emails. our jyotish (astrologers) can exactly say the time of solar eclipses n lunar eclipses without using any telescopes. How? it is a myth. Indians r doing it long before the birth of Keplar n Copernicus. will u call it mytholgy?
We had knowledge of mettalurgy. our ancient temples r proof ofthe fact that we had good knowledge of architecture

Wtihout reading vedas how can one comment on what they r saying

I read the same info in Geeta..Shaym is right....the nos are exxagerated

hi charu di can u give the exact no.

Originally posted by: godisone

One more point; During the Mahabharat times, there may have been other civilizations in other countries, and in the Treta Yuga, there may have been other cultures too, but in the Satya Yuga (or Krita Yuga), the first yuga of our four yuga cycle, there was no other culture and no other country. There was only one land, not separate continents, and it was called Bharat-Desh.

I would love to have some references for these claims. Again, I say the same thing that we should keep mythology and science separate. Mythology and science are two different aspects of human culture and should never be mixed. Even top scientists have had faith in God (e.g J. Robert Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein).. Religion gives us a way and a target to live our life while science attempts to discover the rules of life and to invent something to make it a better experience.. These two have separate domains and should never clash with each other..

Regarding your claims, I'd like to provide some numbers.. The length of Kali-yuga, dwapar-yuga, treta-yuga and satya-yuga are 432000, 864000, 1296000 and 1728000 human years respectively. If we add all these, then the satya-yuga started around 4 million years ago.. Now, the world was only one continent before 180-200 million years ago only... And it was not called Bharat-desh, it was called Gondvana-land.. Also, the first human (homo) appeared on earth only 2 million years ago and the first modern human (homo-sepians) appeared only 400,000 years ago.. Please note the difference between these two numbers, 200 million and 4 million.. So, please provide some references about your claimns...
Not to mention, all the events of Ramayana take place in Indian subcontinent only..

Originally posted by: godisone

It's not pride, but the humble truth. In the Kali Yuga, the airplane was invented by the Wright Brothers, but long before them, in the Satya Yuga, there were vimanas (airplanes) used by Gods and Kings to roam the world. In the Treta Yuga, there was the famed Pushpaka Vimana, which first belonged to Kuber, then Ravan, then Shri Ram, and then back to Kuber.

90% of everything invented in this Kali Yug was already invented in the three past yugas, but most of them were lost, or the knowledge of them was lost, so they were re-invented by all these people. There's proof to this in not only the Mahabharat and Ramayan, but also other puranas as well: Brahma Purana, Vishnu Purana. Shiva Purana, Narad Purana, Devi Bhagavatham, Potana Bhagavatham, etc.

Again, we are confusing religion or mythology with science. Gods can do anything that is not possible in science, because they have divine powers. But that is not science. That is our faith. a structure like Pushpak Viman can't fly because its shape is not aerodynamic and it doesn't have any engine.. it is just our faith that it had flying capacity because of Mantra-power. Again, no harm in having this faith, but it should not be confused with science.

Please also give some verifiable references about your this claim - "90% of everything invented in this Kali Yug was already invented in the three past yugas, but most of them were lost" - Is this a number you have just assumed? or you have calculated it precisely in some manner?

Originally posted by: godisone

It is universally acknowledged that Hinduism is the oldest/first religion/civilization.

Yes, that is indeed true. But it is a separate fact and can provide a good starting point for some discussion...

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

hi charu di can u give the exact no.

Ok here are the definition of akshahini according to the sanskrit language and Sacred Texts Archive..

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

a discussion based on assumptions n doutful authorities will not be that much fruitful. we all have agreed that internet sources like wikipedia r not much reliable. only MB book is reliable. whatever we r saying now abt the spread of vedic civilisation or actual area of Krukshetra at the time of MB or no. of army or abt the rulers from all over the world who took part in MB everything is based on our assumption. I think we should refer MB book to to know abt the rulers who took part in MB war. One thing is sure all soldiers must not have have jumped into the war in same day. we shud gather more knowledge abt how war were conducted in that era.
only few week have left for my exam so right now I cant take through study of MB.

One thing is sure that a through study of MB will be helpful in ascertaining the truth