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selvi1275

@selvi1275

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Posted: 8 years ago

#801

Originally posted by: Kalgi22
My darling.. 🤗 I'm too good my end is super cool...

But I really worry for Savi.. I keep on trying her mobile. Still no news. But today I read the news that says still there's no electricity in some areas and the landslide warnings were still effective in some districts. Hope she's safe..

Hope things get better very soon...no water, no electricity, floods...i remember how it was...

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karkuzhali

@karkuzhali

Inactive

Posted: 8 years ago

#802

Sandhya, Jalal wanted to be like Krishna Bhagwan and have 16, 108 women in his anthapuram..So he may get 11, 107 ( other than you) more.. Then how will you filter? By that time all the senior ones will become old...

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

And that 5000 included moms and sis and aunts and kwaja seras and maids and keepers.😡 Subtract them all and the number is reduced to single digits.😳 I have a screecher and preacher to take care of though .

Chandra does look cute here. Best wishes. Just beware of the Greek serial killer. 😈

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selvi1275

@selvi1275

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Posted: 8 years ago

#803

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A
Lana, jokes and Jalal-mania apart, i seriously doubt the veracity of the books by most of western authors on Indian History. India has always been depicted as a land of snakes and superstitions. Yoga as devilish. Our libraries destroyed, (sometimes by invaders,sometimes by local enemies) ...the best way to dismantle a society is to destroy the roots of its pride. If the Buddhist texts called Ashoka cruel to stress the miraculous effect their religion had on him, the western interpretations have stressed and restressed that aspect and highlighted it more than his goodness. They had to focus on his weakness, real or imaginary more than his pluses as the idea of a prajapati emperor who built an empire with people's welfare in mind 2000 years ago would hurt their own pride as they probably didn't have anyone to match. Just the same, Akbar also had to be found fault with. Whether his weakness with the fair sex was real or not the figure is certainly highly exaggerated. As if that was the case, he could have done just that - philandering. He certainly could not have built a huge empire, taken the majority of population of various sects into his fold, stabilized trade, established reasonable taxation policies, brought about social reforms, fought against Sati... ( can a man who rode on horse hundreds of miles to save a woman from burning actually have such scant respect for women and be debauched himself!) Whatever be his political motives, he never forced even his religion on his wives. So the Vincent version seems too wobbly.🤓

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Well said Sandy...their versions are indeed extreme...who allowed them to harems that they have such precise detail ( not just this... some holi celebration stories too)

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Lana Ghosh

@lghosh

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 8 years ago

#804

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A
Lana, jokes and Jalal-mania apart, i seriously doubt the veracity of the books by most of western authors on Indian History. India has always been depicted as a land of snakes and superstitions. Yoga as devilish. Our libraries destroyed, (sometimes by invaders,sometimes by local enemies) ...the best way to dismantle a society is to destroy the roots of its pride. If the Buddhist texts called Ashoka cruel to stress the miraculous effect their religion had on him, the western interpretations have stressed and restressed that aspect and highlighted it more than his goodness. They had to focus on his weakness, real or imaginary more than his pluses as the idea of a prajapati emperor who built an empire with people's welfare in mind 2000 years ago would hurt their own pride as they probably didn't have anyone to match. Just the same, Akbar also had to be found fault with. Whether his weakness with the fair sex was real or not the figure is certainly highly exaggerated. As if that was the case, he could have done just that - philandering. He certainly could not have built a huge empire, taken the majority of population of various sects into his fold, stabilized trade, established reasonable taxation policies, brought about social reforms, fought against Sati... ( can a man who rode on horse hundreds of miles to save a woman from burning actually have such scant respect for women and be debauched himself!) Whatever be his political motives, he never forced even his religion on his wives. So the Vincent version seems too wobbly.🤓

Sandy I just wish I could talk to you personally instead of typing away! I will highly recommend you to pick up the book and read through it! You will realise that your concept is nothing but a fallacy! The book has facts all over from the Islam religion, the sufis, the christians, the jains, the jesuits, the hindus and have Akbar glorified in all his policies and reforms!

I have a high regard for him after I read the book! He was a master in warfare, a complete daredevil, he made the impossible possible and took up challenges on purpose that was unthinkable to achieve and he was a man who thought out of the box be it in war tactics or tax reforms or religious reforms or ruling the country and that was why he is AKbar the great!

You will love him if you read but a man can't be without shortcomings, correct! He was a heavy drinker, he abused himself with all possible addictions but the commendable fact was he had a total self-control over himself! He was a womaniser of the first category but never went around forcing himself on women! He liked good food but was not a glutton. He was illiterate but his knowledge on religion was over and beyond any scholar of hs age! He was a devout spiritual person who not only simply learned and discussed about other religion but even practised them! He had his sons educated in christianity and they even practised the religion! Almost all religions thought he will convert to theirs but he didn't convert to any religion! But people who saw him daily thought he was a born hindu because he practised all hindu rituals! He also practised Farsi culture a lot. When he was 40 and older he completely gave up Islam religion and in fact instead of building mosques he would convert the remaining mosques into stables and barns and would build churches and monasteries and Jain and Hindu temples! He was a mass of contradiction! He became a strict vegetarian under the influence of Jain culture.

I will not be able to do justice by telling you everything here, so if you can get the book and read you will realise for yourself how wrong you think of this book! You will have a different angle to look at him, you will see him as a super intelligent human and not a god like mortal as he is portrayed by Abul Fazl in Akbarnama! I simply loved the facts taken from all accounts about Akbar and then composed them all in one book!

Edited by lghosh - 8 years ago

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Sandhya.A

@Sandhya.A

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#805

Originally posted by: Kalgi22
Chellam: Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha
Om nama no heed to Sandy's tease e namaha
Om nama remember Periamma's varam e namaha
Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!!

Jalal: Chellam don't go. Please come to me... It's all Sandy's scheaming with Maham anga... How come you can doubt your Jalal. Please come to me my darling... I can't live without you.. 😭 😭

Chellam: Jalal just go away from here. I know very well about Sandy and I know very well that you hate her. But still you've so many people in your haram... I can leave you but I just can't go against to my Periamma's words. She always thinks best for me. Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!!

Jalal: Okay as you say... Then I'll also take Sanyasam and come here..

Chellam: What? No!!!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!!

Periammma... Please save me...

🤣🤣 🤣🤣

*Sandy gets serious*

Yeh ladki kabhi nahin sudhregi.😡 All this was high degree DQgiri to catch Jalal's attention. But nothing will work as truth is different. Here is what actually happened.

Chellam: Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha

Om nama no heed to Sandy's tease e namaha

Om nama remember Periamma's varam e namaha

Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!!

Jalal: Please leave me alone and grab Saraswati Aunty's offer. I love Sandy and Sandy only and please don't cause further trouble to my innocent Sandy. I'm hoping that this transformation is real and you won't change your mind again.

Chellam: Jalal leave me alone to my bhagya. I know very well about Sandy and I know very well that you love her. That is why i have decided to take sanyas.

Jalal: hope Kal was serious in her decision and goes to trouble Chandra and Aapama and lrave me and Sandy alone. Just incase she changes her mind, i'll stay in disguise and do my work.

Chellam: Periammma... Please save me...

Jalal: i knew it. All this is high level drama. This girl will never change. I'll have to think of other methods to keep her at bay.

Edited by Sandhya.A - 8 years ago

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binduprasad41

@binduprasad41

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#806

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

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*Sandy gets serious*
Yeh ladki kabhi nahin sudhregi.😡 All this was high degree DQgiri to catch Jalal's attention. But nothing will work as truth is different. Here is what actually happened.

Chellam: Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha
Om nama no heed to Sandy's tease e namaha
Om nama remember Periamma's varam e namaha
Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!!

Jalal: Please leave me alone and grab Saraswati Aunty's offer. I love Sandy and Sandy only and please don't cause further trouble to my innocent Sandy. I'm hoping that this transformation is real and you won't change your mind again.

Chellam: Jalal leave me alone to my bhagya. I know very well about Sandy and I know very well that you love her. That is why i have decided to take sanyas.

Jalal: hope Kal was serious in her decision and goes to trouble Chandra and Aapama and lrave me and Sandy alone. Just incase she changes her mind, i'll stay in disguise and do my work.

Chellam: Periammma... Please save me...

Jalal: i knew it. All this is high level drama. This girl will never change. I'll have to think of other methods to keep her at bay.

Hey bhagwan 😲

Like seriously 🤣🤣🤣

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Lana Ghosh

@lghosh

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 8 years ago

#807

Keep going Sandy and Kawsi! 🤣 It has BEGUN!! 😆 Now it feels normal again! 😆 Didn't I tell you all I am reserving the front row seat for all the high voltage entertainment coming our way!? 😃

Too good Sandy! 🤣

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Sandhya.A

@Sandhya.A

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#808

Originally posted by: lghosh

Sandy I just wish I could talk to you personally instead of typing away! I will highly recommend you to pick up the book and read through it! You will realise that your concept is nothing but a fallacy! The book has facts all over from the Islam religion, the sufis, the christians, the jains, the jesuits, the hindus and have Akbar glorified in all his policies and reforms!

I have a high regard for him after I read the book! He was a master in warfare, a complete daredevil, he made the impossible possible and took up challenges on purpose that was unthinkable to achieve and he was a man who thought out of the box be it in war tactics or tax reforms or religious reforms or ruling the country and that was why he is AKbar the great!

You will love him if you read but a man can't be without shortcomings, correct! He was a heavy drinker, he abused himself with all possible addictions but the commendable fact was he had a total self-control over himself! He was a womaniser of the first category but never went around forcing himself on women! He liked good food but was not a glutton. He was illiterate but his knowledge on religion was over and beyond any scholar of hs age! He was a devout spiritual person who not only simply learned and discussed about other religion but even practised them! He had his sons educated in christianity and they even practised the religion! Almost all religions thought he will convert to theirs but he didn't convert to any religion! But people who saw him daily thought he was a born hindu because he practised all hindu rituals! He also practised Farsi culture a lot. When he was 40 and older he completely gave up Islam religion and in fact instead of building mosques he would convert the remaining mosques into stables and barns and would build churches and monasteries and Jain and Hindu temples! He was a mass of contradiction! He became a strict vegetarian under the influence of Jain culture.

I will not be able to do justice by telling you everything here, so if you can get the book and read you will realise for yourself how wrong you think of this book! You will have a different angle to look at him, you will see him as a super intelligent human and not a god like mortal as he is portrayed by Abul Fazl in Akbarnama! I simply loved the facts taken from all accounts about Akbar and then composed them all in one book!

Of course none can be perfect. Everyone has his shortcomings. But what and to what degree makes all the difference.

The intelligence of the writer lies with blending the real and the imaginary. If he's going write all wrong about someone, you'll simply discard the whole thing. You heap praises and then add a pinch of defamatory statement, it stays in your mind. "See, if i was against him or intent on defaming him, why would i praise him?" The thing is NONE can deny his reforms, his liberal views, his popularity in a Hindu dominant society, his policies and military skills. So the key rule is to ptaise these while throwing in some comments on his character.

I am NOT saying he was perfect. He might have been a womaniser. He might have been a regular samrat wrt women. The thing is no one knew. Not you and me. Not Vincent either. Of course, writers do a lot of research. But how much of the end product is true tp the spirit is always a question. So i always read the Western versions of Indian history with a pinch of salt.

To be fair, i'll try to read the book before getting opinionated.😕

Edited by Sandhya.A - 8 years ago

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Lana Ghosh

@lghosh

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 8 years ago

#809

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Of course none can be perfect. Everyone has his shortcomings. But what and to what degree makes all the difference.

I am NOT saying he was perfect. He might have been a womaniser. He might have been a regular samrat wrt women. The thing is no one knew. Not you and me. Not Vincent either. But i always read the Western versions of Indian history with a pinch of salt.

To be fair, i'll try to read the book before getting opinionated.😕

Sandhya one thing I will tell you from personal experience, always keep an open mind! Unless and until you experience something yourself please don't have a prejudged notion! Or else I have realised I will be left with nothing but prejudice! Don't listen to me or anyone else, read the book and then judge for yourself! I thought it was a pretty good book with facts and excerpts from all possible sources and even the letters from the Christian and Jesuit priests or Spanish and Portuguese priests and other people who came to visit him. They had high praises for him and it really shows his liberal attitude and nature and at the same time his inquisitive mind that wanted to know more, to learn more! He also was clever to the borderline of being cunning and used these priests to get information about the ports that were under the Portuguese officials. He had a right and balanced attitude to rule and run the country! And being an emperor I can't believe he would be without any vices specially when they were so easily available to him! If I appreciate someone then I should have an open mind to realise his shortcomings as well! 😃 Akbarnama only praises and sings for him but it can't be that he had no faults or addictions! He was no saint, he was a superb and extremely intelligent emperor who knew how to win the hearts of his people and was Just! That is why he was one of the greatest rulers of our nation!

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Kuki715

@Kuki715

Rocker

Posted: 8 years ago

#810

Originally posted by: Kalgi22
Chellam: Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha
Om nama no heed to Sandy's tease e namaha
Om nama remember Periamma's varam e namaha
Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!!

Jalal: Chellam don't go. Please come to me... It's all Sandy's scheaming with Maham anga... How come you can doubt your Jalal. Please come to me my darling... I can't live without you.. 😭 😭

Chellam: Jalal just go away from here. I know very well about Sandy and I know very well that you hate her. But still you've so many people in your haram... I can leave you but I just can't go against to my Periamma's words. She always thinks best for me. Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!!

Jalal: Okay as you say... Then I'll also take Sanyasam and come here..

Chellam: What? No!!!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!! Om nama no Jalal distraction e namaha!!!

Periammma... Please save me...

Baba re 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Chellam di.. You are the best, seriously 👏👏

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