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Posted: 9 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: jayaks02

Akka - Much as these posts are delightful, you should not worry about posting them at all and may be stop. First and foremost your health.

Please take a break and do whatever is needed to get back health.


I AGREE WITH VIDYA, SHYAMALA AUNTY, THAT YOUR HEALTH SHOULD COME FIRST. YOU SHOULD TAKE A BREAK FROM IT ALL WHENEVER IT GETS TOO MUCH.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ENTIRE EXERCISE IS QUITE A TASK - THE POST, REAPONSES, AND THE DISCUSSIONS. PHEW!

HAVING SAID THAT, PLEASE DO GIVE INTO DEPRESSION. I KNOW THAT IT IS FAR TOO EASY FOR ME TO SAY IT AND VEY DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO DO IT.

AND PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO KEEP AFFECTED JOINTS MOVING

THE HOMEWORK COMMENT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME :) AND THE ONE RAY OF SUNSHINE IN THIS OTHERWISE BLEAK LOOKING SCENARIO IS THAT YOU CAN AT LEAST MAINTAIN FLEXIBILITY AND TRY N WORK YOUR FINGERS WHEN THEY ARE LEAST STIFF

I KNOW THAT THIS IS THE SECOND TIME AROUND THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS, BUT EACH ONE OF YOUR POSTS IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE DONE LAST TIME ON THE SAME EPISODE. AND IT IS A PLEASURE TO READ AND RE READ :)



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Dearest Shyamala, Thank you for your response and please do not feel the need to respond to this. Just press the like button to acknowledge that you have read it ( even if you don't like what I have to say 😉). We want your fingers to last as long as they can.

I have bolded some parts of your conversation with Jayaks02 and Adiana12 to highlight my point that Jodha is being judged by what she became later ..not by what she is now. We were told very strictly by you not to flash forward in order to enjoy the present episodes to its fullest. Most of us have restricted our defence to her behaviour during the Jashn only. This is the only way to enjoy this most magical week of the show.

As Donjas says, Jodha's character plummets later...but frankly so does Jalal's. Why bring that up constantly now? To me the Shaadi Saptaah, along with the Sukanya marriage track, Baadal Kajri, Jodha poisoning were the most magical moments of the show. Lets enjoy them for what these two created in those episodes to the fullest ...not what the show became later on.

As far as the Jodha defence goes, my post had a single line in her defence. Most of the post was appreciating the wonderful scenes. Ignore the Jodha defence if you want but please dont stop your posts if possible.

Lastly dear Shyamala a small suggestion about your continuation of these posts: if it becomes too much why dont you ask someone to post an open weekly review ( Donjas I volunteer you 😆) and then you just give your thoughts and feed back as best you can. I would hate for you to stop completely.


Originally posted by: jayaks02

Brilliant 👏- What a tearing apart of the entire story line and treatment by the CVs in three little sentences ⭐️. That posturing of her was insulting to her own femininity and personality. Or rather she was the one who was obsessed about it and not the other party. 😆😉

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ela yaar! I have missed your detailed responses on the thread. What you said is exactly what I said below to Shymala in my response. I agree she should not bother with responding to the Jodha issue if she likes. But most importantly lets enjoy Jodha AND Jalal for what they are now...they will both plummet later. I don't plan to be around for that. Lets enjoy the magical show as of now😛

Shyamala...kya hua? Why will you stop writing? Just becoz majority of readers view differs from urs? ...Personally I feel u have every right to put ur views as we have...aur tum explain hi kyon kar rahi hoo jodha ke baare mein apni views? ...Tumne apni baat likhi aur humne apni baat...aur baat khatam hui...Cheer up...

And I know Jo 's character will become very unrealistic later on( main bhi digest nahi kar paongi) ..lekin abhi toh nahi hai na...Enjoy it yaar...
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Posted: 9 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Coolpree

Ela yaar! I have missed your detailed responses on the thread. What you said is exactly what I said below to Shymala in my response. I agree she should not bother with responding to the Jodha issue if she likes. But most importantly lets enjoy Jodha AND Jalal for what they are now...they will both plummet later. I don't plan to be around for that. Lets enjoy the magical show as of now😛

Shyamala...kya hua? Why will you stop writing? Just becoz majority of readers view differs from urs? ...Personally I feel u have every right to put ur views as we have...aur tum explain hi kyon kar rahi hoo jodha ke baare mein apni views? ...Tumne apni baat likhi aur humne apni baat...aur baat khatam hui...Cheer up...

And I know Jo 's character will become very unrealistic later on( main bhi digest nahi kar paongi) ..lekin abhi toh nahi hai na...Enjoy it yaar...

Hi Preeti...How are you dear? ...Thanks a lot yaar...Nowadays workload is a bit more...Actually Preeti I feel Shyamala is under a lot of pain...and is taking a lot of trouble in posting...and I guess I was rather critical in my comments...but I hope she understands...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas



I believe the stage when Jodha is all about bhashans and Mahaanta has not been reached. When Jodha does it, when credit is taken for Jalal's achievements and unfairly given to Jodha, when Jalal stops behaving like an Emperor and more like a henpecked husband, that is when the downtrend in the serial begins.

But right now it is all about a brave woman not bending down to Jalal's will. I like it.

I think, secretly you like it too. So many contrasting opinions means better arguments. After all you did not start this series for people to pay homage to your views. I think you want people to be inspired by your wonderful writing and feel free to express themselves here.



@ Blue: That single line just about sums up the Jodha we saw in these 4 episodes perfectly
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Posted: 9 years ago
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What a superb episode. I admit I am looking forward to Shymala's analysis of the last two episodes with the same eagerness, I had for the Jalal Bharmal confrontation.

The hamam scene was passionate and a lesson in psychology. They are so many steps Jalal follows to get Jodha to do what he wants. First he dismisses off hand her request, then when she is about to leave he raises hope by stopping her, he embarrasses her by reminding her of the sharts.

And then when she is so grateful for the gesture by Jalal of agreeing to lie, he springs his trap with his own naughty shart. The hamam scene as you all saw was passionate, there was so much raw electricity flowing around, it could have electrocuted someone.

Truly, a wonderful scene of psychology and passion. It will be made even better by Shymala's presentation who will dissect every gesture and emotion of the parties involved, in a fashion that no one else can.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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hai
I read all ur comments
exactly Jalal need jodha care for him that he know Jodha hate him a lot more than anything when he came to amer he hears jodha n Suriya talking where jo say that she what Jalal head in that one movement jalal mind get capture her n think that he have to bend her n capture her in his harem like a capture bird that was show in the show as simple of both their thinking Jalal love caged birds n Jodha loves freedom of birds Jalal was mesmerized By jodha beauty but more hurt by her word n loved her sharpness n braveness too he don't know what made him to Marr her he think its his victory on Amer because BK said v have to find their week point to win them n Rajput pride is their daughter as for his knowledge so he want their pride to be taken to his harem! but his so call un beating heart is not accepting MA say that y u need to marr he u can keep her as ur wish without this marr but jalu refuse that their he say Nothing to MA but still unsaid words was seen by eating MA salted sweet n say namkin may be alag maza hai he want Jodha in Agra at any cast its his first mission that was his BK advise for him in this war he have to bend his enemies in front of him by anyways n he made it Bharm was bend in front of jalu by giving him her daughter but in Marr both family's stay in same place given n taken r done in equal place it was not know by jalal he just want Jodha n Amer to be his side n he made it n one more thing y MS was taken with him his the two person who Put sword on Jalu Neck is Jodha first n second is MS he want them both to be with him as their brave caught him more than they r Amer he love that brave so much Ruq n MA say Jalu love the woman who play with him more he play with them so joddha is playing with him not jalu playing with her jodha moves the coin n jalal is see the play Quite with the move Of ruq n MA the game is movie wide on n on! jodha is serving jalal as the hurt was given by here n its a duty of wedded wife when a hubby need her help she must do it its the one of the duty, jalal is doing this as that he can make her servant of him by any ways by hook r crook that smile n taking of the band on his hand before jo is say this that he did it what he want her to do by herself not force her he made her to do his wish its jalu he made his 2 move wise where as in making Jo to sing was S its ruq word ur correct their 100% n the song was not got anger to jalal first but after here again ruq only Jalal become anger so it again she is doing Jodha n jalal behaviors a fully wedded couple but they have their Ego of accepting each other openly because they hate each other more than they know each other n jodha was not perpar by her mother before the marr she was though from her childhood that Mughal is their enemies n she was got marr to him for only to save Amer nothing more was said by her to a new marr girl which actual mother give to a daughter as advice so she don't know how to accept her mughal hubby now she think he is mughal n he is cruel only this thing she know but what is jalal as personal she don't know that it was later seen by her by living with him in harem so till that she feel him as demon so she is chill when he is present near her n that is shown in DEK
Jalal was enjoy the sweet n her behavior before that Ruq doing her wording game her they r show that ruq can do Jalal anything what she need him to do n Ma was see this all n fire Ruq by her words that a how MA is play how cunningly she made her move without knowing to ruq n jalal ! just see how cunning MA is n this cunning was filled in jalal also because of her motherhood which jalal got in his childhood later HB loving n care natural is also present in jalal which was given by HB n JIJI Agha so Jalal got all their thoughts on his blood how much he had in him is very much seen in AK n BD N MS n jalal scene how calmly stop Ak n show him his place n His Lawful wedded wife family place now n MA was right in all ways n she was the first person who came to know about jalal n HB came to know while see Jalal gave permission to Jodha stay as hindu which gave her that her son heart is start beat who is done it is Jodha
I don't know i have written wrong r right but it was my point but i think Jalal was not curel as he show to all he is very much good person he saved his friend as jodha save her friend mothi here they r same in thinking no where they r differ their thinking n care n love all is same only thing is their though from their elder was that they r enemies was nail in their mind n it was hunting them,
thanks for the post it was amazing post lovely describe each word was accept by words by words thanks u so much for this
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Posted: 9 years ago
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shyamala dearest as i had mentioned earlier, do not know if you remember that the serial is a magnum opus up until the shahi shaadi, after jodha's entry in agra it becomes more of sbs types and irritating at times, not to mention the mirchi war..khyber the king kong..and the gaatha post major leap!..sometimes i wonder if this serial had limited episodes and great quality of script and direction from beginning to the end it would have been one of my most favorite shows..and i would have added it to the list of my most favorites which is mainly graced by the realistic and dignified pakistani shows! but alas this show turned out to be one of the low quality chewing gum types typical ekta show towards the later half!

now coming to your analysis, as always you are wonderful and bang on in whatever you write..i agree that jodha's behavior could have been more dignified towards jalal but then jisse pyaar hota hai shayad ussi se utni nafrat bhi hoti hai...😉..ekta has tried to make it gel with 16th century ki naari shakti mahaan by showing jodha being the rebellious types rather than dignified with her subtle behavior, as our dear friend adi said that her portryal could have been more graceful if she was shown as a married woman of that era, and keeping distance from the husband is also kinda unacceptable and unrealistic keeping in mind the condition of women of that era...but ekta here again uses her formula of distance and fights ofcourse aided by bunch of vamps..to create curiosity and wait among the viewers so that they crave for their close proximity leading to consummation of marriage, and viewers do seem to like such concept, although it lacks in the logic but then when did entertainment had logic to begin with😛
Edited by ghalibmirza - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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hi Mandy
i totally agree with u r views.


srilu
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Posted: 9 years ago
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hi Meena kaleswaran
excellent views . i liked it and those r mine too.


srilu
Edited by pilluitla - 9 years ago

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