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Posted: 9 years ago
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My dear Devki,

As usual, I agree with most of your comments, but as Donjas has noted, the explanation that the wife is the last to learn about her spouse's affair is the very best of all. And so refreshingly novel too!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: devkidmd

Jalal: Jalal has made one of his first independent decisions and is in no mood for any inputs from anyone.
He has seen in Amer that Jodha is used to the attention and importance. He has seen how confident she is. What could be more humiliating for such a person than to be treated as one of many? And of course that's what dear Jalal wants. He is mentally rubbing his hands in glee now that he gets to puncture Jodha's pride, confidence and guroor.
Maham Anga:Poor MA, the words of the hindu daasi are probably ringing in her ears.😆
Her face was really funny. It is as if she does not know what to think. She knows that she is not getting the complete story from Jalal but has to accept everything at face value. Her hesitant, confused smile...
Rukaiyya: She is in her happy la la bachpan ka dost land. And what could have she done anyway?
Maina: Aunty, woh bechahri poori tarah se toot chuki hai😭😭
By the by, Mrs Bennett is one of my all time favorite characters! She and Mr. Bennett were a Jodi made in heaven.😆
Bharmal: "square in body and face?"🤣
I think he is just so relieved to get out of this mess unscathed that he does not want anything to rock his boat.😡 Initially I think he genuinely wanted to tell Jodha but as time went by he started having second thoughts and used the excuse of sahi waqt.
Jodha's self delusion: This I think is akin to a wife who is the only one who does not know that her husband is having an affair with her best friend. She sees some signs but turns a deliberate blind eye.
I also think that Jodha is trying her best to reconcile to the fact that this marriage is what is going to protect Amer from calamity. She probably does not want to know too much. What if her prospective groom is old and wobbly or ugly as hell?
She is probably better off not knowing about him is what she thinks. Of course that he is not a Rajput but a Mughal is not something that can occur to her even in her worst nightmare.
Dadisa: She is simply ADORABLE. Wish I could give her a big smacking kiss on that ample cheek. She is too cute.
Thanks for this lovely analysis. Till next time!
Devki

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Posted: 9 years ago
#32
My dear Susmita,

You are more than welcome! I saw that you had read and Liked my last post, and I felt you might like to see this one too. I will PM you regularly in the future.

I am delighted that you liked this one so much. And as for Rajat, as you would have understood after reading my last post about Episode 31, I adore him. He is an exceptionally talented actor, and i am keeping my fingers crossed for Lady Luck to smile on him in the future as well.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Susmita96

Frst of all thank u for the pm..i did not expect u to pm me for ur post.i feel glad😊😳😳

Yeah. zee anmol has really surprised us by giving 1 hour epis..we actually thght they would edit the marraige scenes to make it fr 30 mins.😆

coming to the analysis..its one of the best analysis dat i hv ever read..i had been a silent reader in this forum.n so hv read all ur previous threads too..n i think the way to study each n every scene of the epi as well as the actors..no one can do it!!! u go deep into the scenes as well as the actors acting n show us d depth!!

now For RAJAT TOKAS...i m really proud to be his fan...mujhe garv hota hai ki i m his fan...i really have no wrds to describe his talent..the shahi shadi epis were one of the best perfrmnces by jalal!!he just proved to be d best frm d very start of the show..n as the epis aired..he just got better dan d best.
he is an actor of a diffrent level acc to me.

HOPING TO SEE MORE SUCH POSTS OF URS SHYMALA AUNTY...I REALLY LOVE UR ANALYSIS.it makes me go deeper into d epis...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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My dear Hema,

I found your comments really interesting. My supplementary remarks are in red.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: hemakeerti

Totally agree with you on rest of your take Aunty, be it on Shareefuddin, Mughal security, Bharmal or Mainavati. Most irritating dialog of the episode goes to Bharmal's "Niyati wala" one. How conveniently he justified his stupidity in name of fate!! He is an escapist, my dear.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Donjas,

Thank you for liking this one, even if it cannot possibly compete with the crackerjack last one. Thank you for such interesting and perceptive comments. And most of all thank you for doing what I should have done but could not do this time, and the last as well, respond intelligently to so many of the comments.

As I wrote to Sandhya above, and I am not in good shape any more in the mornings, and am in general somewhat depressed. Being, finally, diagnosed with rheumatism does that to you. So thank you again.

Shyamala


Rheumatism is a setback. I had thought it was just a displaced nerve. In that sense, it is a disappointment. But if you step back and look at the big picture, this is one ailment that can be managed.

I strongly suggest Yoga, if you are not using it already. It will help tremendously. I say it by personal practice that it will improve both mood and physical well being.

Please have a look at this article- http://www.arthritis.org/living-with-arthritis/exercise/workouts/yoga/yoga-benefits.php

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Dear Saraswati Akka,

I am glad you like this one too, though naturally it could not hold a candle to the previous one.

I do not quite agree with Donjas on why Jodha imitates Gandhiji's three monkeys. I do not think the idea of her father arranging her marriage with Jalal would have ever crossed her mind, it would be too outlandish for a Rajput king to contemplate.

I think she does not want to probe into the matter because of another possibility. What if the groom is old and ugly? He could still have dished out the ransom she thinks has been paid for saving Amer and her brothers. That would fit in with Bharmal saying that it would be very tough for her to accept his choice. She is prepared to accept even that for the sake of Amer, but she would like to put off facing it for as long as possible.

As for your point about Jalal and MA, I do not agree with that either, I am afraid. Jalal is not into letting MA down lightly.these days. He snubs her bluntly over her daasi remark, and he is going to put her in her place again, even more bluntly, after he accepts Jodha's two sharts.
So he means what he says about this being just one more nikaah, or at least he believes he does!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: karkuzhali



Dear Shyamala,
As usual an excellent analysis of excellent episodes.
But I think, when he says to MA that this is only another 'nikah', it is not actually he is indifferent towards Jodha, but having sensed (in the previous episode) MA's displeasure in bringing a Rajavanshi princess to the Moghul harem, he puts his words carefully so that he does not hurt his badiammi's feelings.
Again, I very much doubt how can Jodha, being a very shrewd and 'hoshiyar' girl, imagine that the Rajavanshi King she is to marry, will rescue her brothers from the hands of the moghuls. Does she think that he will wage a war against Jalal and win?Even after seeing her brothers' safe return in the later episode, she does not even show her surprise as to how this would have happened.
I searched for the reply also in the earlier posts when the episodes were first telecast but I could not find one.

Saraswathi.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree with you on both counts, my dear Donjas. Jalal was deliberately gentle with Mynavati, to put her at ease and cushion the shock that all this has been for her. Wait till she turns up with those pots on her head!😉

A minor point: Maharana Pratap's father was Maharana Udai Singh of Mewar.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Donjas


I look forward to your posts because they always have a unique insight. In this post you have raised an interesting point regarding polygamy.

Very true, polygamy was practiced in the Rajput community too, it was common both among the Hindus and Muslims. For example, Maharana Pratap had atleast 11 wives, his father Rana Amar Singh, had more than 20 wives. Same with Muslim rulers. But if someone makes an argument that a society falls because of polygamy, I will find it hard to believe. The logic simply is not there in this argument.

Regarding Jalal's interaction with Mainawati, I don't think he was mocking her, instead he was observing her carefully, noting her tears and dejected face. It gave an indication of what she thought of the marriage. Jalal has always liked to read people, it has helped him in dealing with them.

In this case with Mainawati, he observed her distraught face, and not once did he do anything to add to the misery. He dutifully followed all rituals.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you so much. my dear Kalgi. I am delighted that you enjoyed this one so much. And as for your comments in blue, they are all to the point and entertaining too!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Kalgi22

Again a wonderful analysis Aunty! Like feast after fasting, totally loved it❤️ although the wonderful moments yet to come The domination, Possessiveness and his eagerness in taming the tigress that he has ever met.. What to say?? he's the performer after all😳 and Poor Jodha... didn't gain a single trustworthy confidential person in Amer up to this age instead gained some Banjaras who's singing about her beauty. But still she's our fiery yet intelligent Princess who we cared for😆

This time I'm going Blue Aunty... Some comments below😆

Jalal seeks to dominate everyone around him , be it his Badiammi, or his prospective begum Jodha, and to make it clear to them that his will has to prevail under any and all circumstances. Jodha is above all dutiful, to Amer and to her father, again under any and all circumstances.
You've very well summarized entire episode in beautiful paragraph👏

Then she puts the cap on things by suggesting that he might like to keep Jodha in the harem as adaasi. I loved the level, freezing cold look he gave Maham Anga then for her impertinent suggestion, and the way he held it till well after she had lowered her eyes. If one has such an air of command, one does not need to raise one's voice at all.

Excellent ! Both Rajat performance and Your writing👍🏼

Still, he does not let even his Badiammi speak disparagingly of Jodha, which means something. That she is his choice, and no one, but no one, can speak contemptuously about his choice.

Woah! That's the truth👏

That is what he wants on his own as well, for though he is very eager to show her where she gets off, he does not want her humiliated by anyone except himself!

Why he does that is something he does not understand himself, at this point of time. We, of course, know better, do we not?

Well said!😊 and you've very well described about his raw possessiveness towards Jodha


The Amer Ministers, who seem to competing among themselves for the first prize for stupidity, suggesting that their King palm Jalal off with Motibai instead of Jodha. I was in stitches imagining Jalal's face when he raises the ghunghat !

OMG!🤣🤣

It's true that Dadissa is the heroine of the day and a starer with clear view⭐️ But this Rajput queen Mainavathi.. Uff a water-tank 😡 and a King who is square of both face and body🤣

I will not even mention Mynavati, for she is OTT nonstop. 😡
🤣 🤣


Husband and wife look so appallingly guilty that a half blind man could have spotted it from a hundred yards away. But not apni Jodha, of course!😉

Yeah our fiery and intelligent Rajkumari, of course 🤣

So en avant, folks, to the Shahi Shaadi of this incredibly glamorous couple!

Uff.. we're waiting

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

I agree with you on both counts, my dear Donjas. Jalal was deliberately gentle with Mynavati, to put her at ease and cushion the shock that all this has been for her. Wait till she turns up with those pots on her head!😉

A minor point: Maharana Pratap's father was Maharana Udai Singh of Mewar.

Shyamala


Sorry, about Confusing son's name for father's. I like my facts to be accurate, that was a blunder.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree with Donjas, Akka. Even if Sharifuddin had not specified a price for the release of Jodha's brothers, she would have assumed that such a (very high) price did exist - she says as much to her bhabhis - and that her unknown bridegroom to be had paid it, in return for her hand.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Donjas


Another very intelligent observation. My argument would be, everyone has a price. Jodha knows the price paid for safe return of her brothers is very high. She assumes that price paid to the Mughals by the King she was going to marry was sufficiently high, that they changed their stance regarding prisoners and released them.

Of course this theory has loopholes, but then she was not thinking straight, the ostrich effect.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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It is so sweet of you, my pet, but I cannot leave Pune and my mother, nor can I take her to Kerala with me, she is too fragile. But if I can get these ayurvedic oils from there, I will use them regularly. I already have a bottle of Ksheerabala tailam from there. So do let me know.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Aunty

Please try the traditional Kerala Ayurvedic oil treatments (external) . It is very effective for rheumatism. It relieves pain greatly and even cures slowly. I personally know people who have derived great benefits. Do take a break and spend a month in God's own Country.

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