Rajat's jalal's memories via shyamala's pearls.. links updated pg 1! - Page 28

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Posted: 10 years ago
OMK OMK...
just wow...aunty honestly I've never read these kind of FFs earlier.. this is just awesome.. n of course on my fav couple. 😉
Aunty I jz wanna hug u...
This Is best ever ff I've ever read..
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Posted: 10 years ago
My dear Neha,

You are free to hug me as much as you like, and I am very pleased that you like my post so much. But dear, this is not an FF, it is a collection of the episode analyses I used to do for Jodha Akbar from June 2013 to April 2014, almost daily, to which I have added connecting comments. The whole series is intended to be my personal tribute to Rajat's Jalal.

I would suggest that you go to page 1, see the links for the other 5 parts, and read them. You will enjoy them too. Write about each part and tell me what you think of it. It will be fun!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: NehaSharma07

OMK OMK...
just wow...aunty honestly I've never read these kind of FFs earlier.. this is just awesome.. n of course on my fav couple. 😉
Aunty I jz wanna hug u...
This Is best ever ff I've ever read..

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Posted: 10 years ago
No one can match your brilliance in prose even prose reads like poetry
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Posted: 10 years ago
I have read till part4 so here is my observations
There are certain points I shall raise that can be debated - My first observation in serial
Although I missed out on initial parts I have seen some on the youtube. The first impression of Akbar is that he is possessive of Maham anga his dai ma rather she had a strange hold on him than anyone else even more than Bairam Khan and Ruqaiah. I started thinking why? Why role of a father(here forster father Bairam Khan) is not given same respect by Akbar as a mother(dai ma). Is it not Bairam Khan who saved his life many times from enemy, who took him under his care and wings after his father Humayun death and protected him. If there was no Bairam Khan would not Akbar be a sitting duck for Hemu and other rival kings? What is guarantee that his own family his uncles kids who were elder than him may have not conspired and killed him and become emperors? Or his brother in laws Abul Mali and Sharifuddin who were adults and more capable? What is it that stopped anyone from daring to touch Akbar or kill him that includes Maham anga herself was it not Bairam Khan- that foster father whose fear kept all enemies of Akbar away? Indeed it was but then why Akbar never trusted Bairam Khan as much as Maham anga?
This raises a pertinent question even in todays time- Is mother more important than a father in society? Especially in patriachial society like India, Asia, Africa etc does not society treat children based on what their father or father family status is? No matter what a mother is even a royal family, its a father and his status that determines how we are treated atleast till we do not achieve much is it not? Its tough for single mothers, widows, divorcee women to bring up children in this big bad society in 21st modern century. So would a Maham anga have protected Akbar on her own never he would be killed even before he reached 15 or running for life if not for Bairam Khan patronage. So why Akbar treated Maham like God making her sit near him on throne while others stood in pictures(history pic) but it was actually Bairam Khan who deserved maximum honour for saving his life and expanding his kingdom.
Is it because Maham fed him her milk? In that case Akbar had many dai mas he never accorded them same respect as Maham why?
Was it because Maham always reminded him she had fed him, taken arrow for him, saved him on fort at cost of ignoring her adham- was it that constant reminder the emotional blackmail that made him more loyal to her than other dai ma's and bairam khan or his other forster fathers like agatah etc?
According to me more than Maham it was Bairam Khan who took care of him and protected him much more be it war field, be it enemies, be it relatives, won him large parts of Mughal empire etc even Maham dared not try to kill Akbar till BK was alive(in history) so Akbar should have been more grateful to BK not Maham.
Edited by myviewprem - 10 years ago
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Observation - My second point is this
Akbar is known to uphold rule of law- so when he came to know Maham was behind killing of Bairam Khan why he kept quiet no justice?
Did not this act of his embolden Adham to kill atagah? Did not atagha lose his life indirectly because of Akbar?
In history Maham's guard tried to kill him in Delhi. Only after that Akbar took all administration in his hand
Edited by myviewprem - 10 years ago
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My third point or observation is about Hamida and Jalal relationship
In history Akbar respected Hamida but whether he obeyed her I am not sure- as you remember Hamida told him not to go to war with jehangir when he was in mutiny yet he went and only came back when Hamida became serious on death bed
Compare that to a Jehangir who was more of mothers son- he listened to Salima, Ruqaiah and Jodha more than he did Akbar ever. So he ended bhagawat as Salima told him, pardoned Aziz Koka as Ruqaiah and Salima asked him, pardoned Man Singh for supporting Khusrau as he was Jodha's nephew etc Jehangir definetly listened to his mothers, grandmother and wives in many matters.
Now I come to serial, Akbar harbours anger and hatred to Hamida and always try to be little her in front of others be it throwing off her taveez when she visit him in Rajputhana, be it allowing Maham to check her kheer for poison, be it telling her to mind her own business and not advice him on jodha issue initially etc he never missed an single opportunity to be little her. I often wondered what patience this lady has, any other mother would have slapped him till his manners bettered in front of all, or she would have left him and gone away or got angry. But Hamida is a saint mother- no other mother even today shall take this much nonsense from a son.
Now why the heck is Akbar angry at his mom hamida- because she left him with Maham and other maids to take the life threatening journey thru desert to Persia to ask for help from Persian Shah to release Akbar and Bakshi from hostage situation. Any other son would have been grateful for life for his parents and here was an ungrateful son misbehaving with her day and night in front of her maids, her ministers and gaurds.
Was this misbehavior Maham's teaching?
Or
Was this misbehavior because Humayun was not there to stop him from behaving so?
Usually boys till a certain age respect parents as they are dependent on parents for everything but when they become independent they do not like parents advice and objections. Especially if father is not alive and only mother its easy to dominate that mother and even misbehave. Was Akbar doing the same?
Edited by myviewprem - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">My dear Neha,

You are free to hug me as much as you like, and I am very pleased that you like my post so much. But dear, this is not an FF, it is a collection of the episode analyses I used to do for Jodha Akbar from June 2013 to April 2014, almost daily, to which I have added connecting comments. The whole series is intended to be my personal tribute to Rajat's Jalal.

I would suggest that you go to page 1, see the links for the other 5 parts, and read them. You will enjoy them too. Write about each part and tell me what you think of it. It will be fun!

Shyamala Aunty


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Yes m going to read it now
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Posted: 10 years ago
And mind that you hit the Like button when you like any post. When last I checked, you had not done so for this part 6, despite my request in bold right at the bottom ! So you had better correct that too!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: NehaSharma07


Yes m going to read it now

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

But what I wrote then is, in retrospect, both ironic and amusing. I quote: How are the CVs planning to get Jalal out of this deep hole - he digs it deeper with each- without losing his dignity as an emperor? Like a parent apologising for having wrongly punished a child, he has to be able to climb down without crawling. It would never do for him to become a common, garden variety of lover, pleading for forgiveness from a haughty wife.

So, however much the vengeful brigade in the forum, waiting for him with belans, jhadoos, saucepans and assorted lethal implements, wants to pound him into pulp, the fact is that we have to make do with Jalal for the rest of the show, and I for one do not look forward to him becoming a doormat for Jodha to walk over. It would be painfully commonplace.

How wrong could I be? For see, what I ruled out was exactly what happened. Jalal soon began to spend a good bit of his waking hours apologizing to his new wife for things he had done and those he had not, while Jodha Begum never uttered even a hint of an apology, even after the narnaal disaster.

And Jalal was a perpetual muaafi maanger. He has apologised a hundred times to his mahaan bagumsa and frequently to all and sundry including the dwarpalaks and the shaahi dogs and cats.😡 And the worst part of it was as you said that he apologised half the time when he was NOT wrong.


The awful Mathura track where he apologised in all possible ways except a shashtaang namashkar when he had behaved most reasonably and begumsa after all her midnight adventures expected eye reading and refused to accept a fraction of her fault.😡


What Jalal is attempting here is a political move with far-reaching ramifications for the Mughal empire, and not an attempt to make Hindus kill Hindus on behalf of the Mughals, as the shallow minded Ruqaiya imagines. He is here testing the waters for the experiment he had outlined to his ministers when he was explaining why he was marrying Jodha.

If it fails, and the Ameris were not to be relied upon, not just to fight against other Rajputs, which they did all the time, but to fight against them for the Mughal invaders, Jalal's whole, broad strategy of melding Rajputana and the Rajputs, as equals in respect and prestige but also as loyal upholders of the his regime, with the Mughal empire, will also fail. With that failure, the Mughals will never be able to belong to Hindustan . They will forever remain outsiders, and Akbar's dream for a blended Hindustan will also be stillborn.


The Jalal of Epi:31 might have thought so. But hard to imagine our budhuram thiking so strategically.


The last second saving of Jodha's life is typical OTT drama, like the nuclear bomb in The Peacemaker being defused at 11:59:59 (I did not mind that, as the scientist managing to save the world there was a woman). There would have been infinitely richer dramatic possibilities is he had cut off her head and then found out that she was innocent, but it is no use hoping for such riches, given that despite her 31 second daily disclaimer, not even Ekta can go so far in remixing history.

How much Ruqaiya must have repented the nth hour save later on!🤣


Jalal will now have to reboot himself inside out, and as his sense of justice is very strong, also make public amends for the public accusations he had made against the Amer quintet. Let us see what he comes up with next. It will be fascinating to see both what he does in the open court, and if he can climb down and apologise to Jodha at least in private, without making a doormat of himself. (Famous last words, alas!)

Alas indeed!😭


As for Salima, she might be Jalal's cousin now, but she must have been Bhagwan Das's sibling in a prior birth. Both have a talent for utter and total blankness of expression, no matter what the circumstances!😉

🤣


It is true that Mahaam loves Adham more than Jalal, but it is probably also true that Jalal is the son she would have wanted to have had. Adham must, the blood tie apart, have always been a sad disappointment for her, but she loves him beyond reason still, and she cannot change that or let him go to his fate. This is her tragedy.

👏


My dear Jalal (not Shahenshah, as I am old enough to be your mother and, at a pinch, with early marriages in your era, even your dadijaan),

I have watched in steadily mounting exasperation as you make a mess of every chance you get to bring that akdu baddimaag Begum Jodha of yours to order.

Instead, she is running rings round you, and you barely escaped having that expensive glass vase hurled at your head yesterday. Yes, I know you have guaranteed turban protection, and a very thick head underneath, but it might have shaken up your already scrambled grey matter and made a bad omelette of it. Which would never do for the future welfare of your millions of subjects.

So, while your artisans are melting the glass pieces and making an identical vase with which you can get the better of Jodha, you clearly need some lessons in how to handle obstinate and spoilt young women who do not know what is good for them. And that is You, bewakoof bachche!

He grew up from a bachche but remained a bewakoof.😭

So pay close attention, and I will tell you how to tackle the tiger in the offing with maximum effect and minimum damage (to yourself, of course). This will be the first in a series of lessons, so save this in the 16th century equivalent of a hard drive for future reference, just in case the tiger seeks a postponement.

1) Make sure the tiger goes after her first. Wait till the very last moment, to make sure that the wretched girl is really scared to death, and cannot say, after you have rescued her at great risk to life and limb,

Yeh kaunsi badi baat thi, Shahenshah? Hamare Amer mein to bachche bhi bagh ko dande se bhaga dete hain, toh aapko use parajit karne me itna vilamb aur itni kathinayi kyon huyi?

2) Push her behind you and advance a good way from her and towards the tiger, which will be stunned at the vision of a man actually coming towards him. More important, Jodha cannot then hear what is going on between the two of you.

3) Look the tiger in the eye, and tell him: Mere bhai, aap bhi bahadur aur hum bhi, isliye aapko ek achchi salah deta hoon. Is aurat ko mat khayiye. Ye abhi bahar se hi mujhe roz jhagda kar karke pagal bana rahi hai, to sochiye aapka andar se kya haal karegi?

4) The tiger will turn tail and run for his life. But before he does that, ask him, as a quid pro quo, to wrestle with you for a couple of minutes, and inflict 3 bad gashes on your arms and chest, calibrated to bleed heavily and picturesquely without causing any lasting damage.

5) You can then pick up your fainting begum and return to your camp in triumph. Make sure that as soon as you have deposited her on whatever is available, you collapse artistically on the ground, with blood all over you, and await further developments with your eyes strategically closed.

I can guarantee that this will work, provided you do exactly as I have told you. Apne dimaag par zor dene ki koyi zaroorat nahin. Is ladki se joojhte joojthe aapka tez dimaag sunn pad gaya hai, nahin to Sujanpur me jo hashar hua, wo kabhi nahin hota!

No need to thank me either, but I shall wait and see if you have followed my instructions to the letter before deciding whether to help you in the future, so watch out!


🤣

Edited by Sandhya.A - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
This is a fantastic post Shyamala Aunty

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