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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi Shyamala sorry for my late response as I have had a house chock full of visitors for the past week.
Thank you for your detailed reply to my response on post 5. But please do not apologize for responding late. That you even take the time to reply to each one of us despite the health issues you mentioned is commendable and definitely not expected by us each time.

As far as your question on your post on Dr Kalam. Yes Shyamala I did read it, and even posted a response to your wonderful post. Can't stay away from a thread that pays tribute to a Titan like him.

As for part 6: At the risk of sounding repetitive you were once again amazing

I want to start off with # 65 "Tigergate"...ha ha ha Shyamala I loved it . I could'nt help but chuckle as Vivid images of Jodha shudh hindi and all , flashed through my mind
"Yeh kaunsi badi baat thi, Shahenshah? Hamare Amer mein to bachche bhi bagh ko dande se bhaga dete hain, toh aapko use parajit karne me itna vilamb aur itni kathinayi kyon huyi? "

I was in splits with these lines:

" Mere bhai, aap bhi bahadur aur hum bhi, isliye aapko ek achchi salah deta hoon. Is aurat ko mat khayiye. Ye abhi bahar se hi mujhe roz jhagda kar karke pagal bana rahi hai, to sochiye aapka andar se kya haal karegi?" 🤣
How do you come up with such stuff?

Battle of Sujanpur:

A small detail Shymala, as ludicrous as the depiction of this battle may have been there is a very clear depiction of such a battle in the Akbarnama where Bhagwandas and his brothers fought alongside Jalal and indeed Bhagwandas did offer Jalal water from his own pitcher as shown in the episode.

Episode 62 and 63 were as y0u said action packed and awesome. Your depiction of those scenes were amazing

Jalal-Salima:

"As for Salima, she might be Jalal's cousin now, but she must have been Bhagwan Das's sibling in a prior birth. Both have a talent for utter and total blankness of expression, no matter what the circumstances!" Hee Hee hee 😆


Jalal in the Diwan-e-Khas: Both Jalal and Jodha I thought were magnificant in this scene. Although my sympathies here lay clearly with Jodha. I loved your description of Rajat's expressions especially when asking Jodha to return to her Khwabgah. I clearly remember Jodha's piercing glare through her veil and her stiff and angry gait as she leaves the DEK brimming with resentment and if I may add Rajput pride. I loved Paridhi during this scene as well.

about Jodha during the vase breaking scene... I admit I cant remember everything very clearly but I don't think she behaved fishwife like. I personally thought that her point that "once relationships are shattered they are very difficult to mend" was quite effective.

How perceptively you have described the personalities of Jodha and Jalal as being "mirror images" of each other.

BUT I disagree somewhat with the following lines:

Of the two, however, Jalal is, despite being an autocratic monarch, more ready to admit his failings and mistakes, to himself and at times to others, and to accept sound advice and act on it. Not so Jodha. Never.

The Jodha you describe above came much later when her character depiction took a bad beating like in the Sujamal track and then abysmal rape allegations against todarmal. As I said earlier, in these episodes described by you above my sympathies lay clearly with Jodha. You maybe a tad bit too harsh on her at this juncture and maybe a bit too genorous with Jalal.

Since this is a Rajat appreciation thread let me end with him. Rajat's Jalal comes across as infuriating, Royal, arrogant, reckless, flawed , human and endearing all at the same time. As mad as I was with this Shehenshah , I was inexoribly drawn to him. Speaks volumes for the acting chops of Rajat Tokas

Thanks once again for the tremendous effort you put in every week. Its a blast reading your posts

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Mandy, my dearest girl,

You have surpassed yourself with these 3 shots, and with the lovely quotation to embellish the first one. 👏 What does ramak mean?

I think it is 'shine'/'brightness ' aunty. I remember Sara tell me so when i asked her the meaning of these opening lines of 'Akbar the Great' show.

Mandy has put up the most appropriate picture for these lines.👏 Looks as though these lines were specifically written for the pic.

Shyamala



Okay. Got it clarified. Ramak is essence/ hint/ nishani.
Edited by Sandhya.A - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Hey aunty ..sorry for being late in the party as usual... lately i've been busy undergoing ivf treatment ... which has left me mentally & physically frustrated ...!! so sidelining all those things, thought of coming to forum & reading ur posts (first thing in my agenda 😊)
phew !! finally finished reading all the parts , in one go... your posts are like medicine to pep me up & get me out of that nasty mood swings ...

part 1 to 6 ... what can I say it was like reliving the amazing journey of JA through your thoughts ...& as mandy has named the thread "via shyamala's pearls" aptly named !!!

the good olden golden memories ...which will end this friday ...!! though I have stopped watching JA since a year ago ... was connected with friends from here on social networking sites , who were drip feeding the episode analysis to me !!!

I had gathered up my courage to watch few random episodes, but then the twin death & aftermath + anar-salim track was the most depressing track ... salim behaving exactly like jodha behaving in her initial ghrina days ..., no respect to TE ... i felt like jodha had passed on her "Ghrina genes" to her son (poor jalal) ... Ufff !!! again left me with a pain in my brain !!!

so "quit seeing JA forever " was the only tone ringing in my head 😆 & i finally gave in to it ...

I feel reading the episode analysis through your writing is much much much better than watching the actual episode ...!! I also salute your energy to take out time & write the episode details with your wit & humor ...!!! never say you are old to drool on rajat aunty 😆...!! you are way much younger & energetic than today's generation ... Love you !!

waiting for your say on further parts "eagerly" :)


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Mandy, my dearest girl,

You have surpassed yourself with these 3 shots, and with the lovely quotation to embellish the first one. 👏 What does ramak mean?

The second one, of Jalal caressing his horse, if I am not wrong, seems to be from the 2nd episode. It is when he rebukes Abdul and cedes the horse to his Khan Baba. Am I right? No wonder Bairam Khan gets delusions of grandeur!

Shyamala



oh! thank you my dear! i need to catch up on many posts, had to work long hours shifts for two consecutive days and now i am toasted! now coming to the meaning of ramak/ramaq it means ability/strength,,and here the poet has used in terms of glory of the emperor i believe..!
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Posted: 10 years ago
Shyamala aunty, just finished part 1. I have to say that you are an excellent writer and bring everything to life. Reading your posts is a lot of fun for someone like me who is relatively new to this forum. Gives me a good picture of a what a hotbed of discussions this forum used to be way back when.
Will have to try and finish the rest before the serial ends, though that will be a challenge considering the fact that your posts appear to be something that needs to be savored at leisure and not rushed through.
Devki
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: varshaakulkarni

Hey aunty ..sorry for being late in the party as usual... lately i've been busy undergoing ivf treatment ... which has left me mentally & physically frustrated ...!! so sidelining all those things, thought of coming to forum & reading ur posts (first thing in my agenda 😊)

phew !! finally finished reading all the parts , in one go... your posts are like medicine to pep me up & get me out of that nasty mood swings ...

part 1 to 6 ... what can I say it was like reliving the amazing journey of JA through your thoughts ...& as mandy has named the thread "via shyamala's pearls" aptly named !!!

the good olden golden memories ...which will end this friday ...!! though I have stopped watching JA since a year ago ... was connected with friends from here on social networking sites , who were drip feeding the episode analysis to me !!!

I had gathered up my courage to watch few random episodes, but then the twin death & aftermath + anar-salim track was the most depressing track ... salim behaving exactly like jodha behaving in her initial ghrina days ..., no respect to TE ... i felt like jodha had passed on her "Ghrina genes" to her son (poor jalal) ... Ufff !!! again left me with a pain in my brain !!!

so "quit seeing JA forever " was the only tone ringing in my head 😆 & i finally gave in to it ...

I feel reading the episode analysis through your writing is much much much better than watching the actual episode ...!! I also salute your energy to take out time & write the episode details with your wit & humor ...!!! never say you are old to drool on rajat aunty 😆...!! you are way much younger & energetic than today's generation ... Love you !!

waiting for your say on further parts "eagerly" :)




i completely agree😆..watching JA after the first year has given me just brain damage and nothing else! the only solace is reading such a wonderful tribute to those glorious times when our jalal's character was not butchered to this extent!
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Posted: 10 years ago
Yes, but why then have you not hit the Like button?

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: 155pari

Nice post shyamala aunty... Loved it... Thanx for the pm...

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Posted: 10 years ago
Sorry aunty for late reply but been busy with studies and my own 2 yr old rukku whose turning in to jalal from jalaad deen ...lol. But thank u so much for these pearls .you make jalal more irresistible with your writing ,I do not watch it any more ,it's more interesting to read and watch that jalal .thank you for pm . Love you aunty .will try and come more often in here
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Posted: 10 years ago
My dear Varsha,

You are a real pick me up, my dear. Thank you for all the very flattering things you have been saying about my old JA posts. I have not been keeping well this last week, so I needed that! Still, for Rajat's best scenes, no words, not even mine, will suffice. You have to watch him onscreen.

I too stopped watching Jodha Akbar when the chudail track got into full swing. It was intolerable. But then this last week of the show will be a farewell to a lot of good times, though they are long gone, so I am watching it again.

What astonishes me is the unbelievably poor and shoddy wrapping up of one of Zee's and Balaji's marquee productions. There is so much still left to say about Akbar, and after the chudail, all they could think up was to have the Shahenshah effectively held prisoner by a bunch of English traders and a rascally Mughal gaddar, with Murad as the silent partner. 😡

And now, in their last few episodes, all they can think of is (a) the Shahenshah bathing his Jodha Begum in milk ( a sticky proceeding, whichever way you look at it!😉) and then (b) singing still more praises of her sense of justice.

Well, after this, I plan to watch about 50-60 of the early JA episodes on Zee Anmol from August 17, and enjoy them in peace, with no compulsion to comment on them! I do not plan to start watching any other new show, but to settle down to my 8 DVD set of the Doordarshan Chanakya.

I am sorry you are feeling down and out about your treatment. I shall keep my fingers crossed for it to be completely successful. Take care, my dear Varsha, and God bless.

Affectionately,

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: varshaakulkarni

Hey aunty ..sorry for being late in the party as usual... lately i've been busy undergoing ivf treatment ... which has left me mentally & physically frustrated ...!! so sidelining all those things, thought of coming to forum & reading ur posts (first thing in my agenda 😊)

phew !! finally finished reading all the parts , in one go... your posts are like medicine to pep me up & get me out of that nasty mood swings ...

part 1 to 6 ... what can I say it was like reliving the amazing journey of JA through your thoughts ...& as mandy has named the thread "via shyamala's pearls" aptly named !!!

the good olden golden memories ...which will end this friday ...!! though I have stopped watching JA since a year ago ... was connected with friends from here on social networking sites , who were drip feeding the episode analysis to me !!!

I had gathered up my courage to watch few random episodes, but then the twin death & aftermath + anar-salim track was the most depressing track ... salim behaving exactly like jodha behaving in her initial ghrina days ..., no respect to TE ... i felt like jodha had passed on her "Ghrina genes" to her son (poor jalal) ... Ufff !!! again left me with a pain in my brain !!!

so "quit seeing JA forever " was the only tone ringing in my head 😆 & i finally gave in to it ...

I feel reading the episode analysis through your writing is much much much better than watching the actual episode ...!! I also salute your energy to take out time & write the episode details with your wit & humor ...!!! never say you are old to drool on rajat aunty 😆...!! you are way much younger & energetic than today's generation ... Love you !!

waiting for your say on further parts "eagerly" :)

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Posted: 10 years ago
Yes, my dear, do try and come in here as often as you can make it, though the baby and your studies should always come first. She sounds like a handful, and I am sure she keeps you on your toes!

Thank you for the very warm things you have said about my posts. Now that the main telecast will be wound up tonight - and a more shoddy ending it would be hard to imagine!😡- I plan to watch about the first 50-60 episodes in the retelecasts on Zee Anmol from Monday after next. But no analyses!!

But do hit the Like button, my dear. I keep asking folks to do that and yet so many forget. If not, how would I know you were there?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: al_pal

Sorry aunty for late reply but been busy with studies and my own 2 yr old rukku whose turning in to jalal from jalaad deen ...lol. But thank u so much for these pearls .you make jalal more irresistible with your writing ,I do not watch it any more ,it's more interesting to read and watch that jalal .thank you for pm . Love you aunty .will try and come more often in here

Edited by sashashyam - 10 years ago

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