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Posted: 10 years ago
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from my personal pov its the character salim itself that i dont like and i must blame it to cv to make salim like this, personally i dont have problem when they decide to take leap but too bad they butcher salim character, its seems like cv want to make jodha jalal suffer so they give them this unreasonable salim, if they make salim character more likeable from the start and create good story this wont happened, its seem like cv try to make second jodha akbar with salim anar, remember when young jalal hate hamida and blindly love maham anga now same happen to salim, and of course who will forget how jalal fall for jodha the first time he meet her then hate her then love her and now salim fall the same track too, if they make salim anar with different story and give equal scene between jodha akbar and salim anarkali may be people wont runaway from this show, i mean come one even the title this show is jodha akbar so how can people keep watching it when salim anar dominate the screen ( i keep watching it for my parijat esp pari )
now bout ravi i must admit he must learn a lot cause i feel sth off in his acting, specially his facial expression, when it come to emotional scene with rajat or paridhi the differences too huge, rajat and paridhi tandem too powerfull for ravi to handle, only good actor with amazing acting skill who can catch up with rajat paridhi, these two are the best in emotional scene so if the co star act average these two amazing talent with eat him/her alive 😉😃

i dont have personal issue with ravi just hope he will improve his acting skill, even actor who play murad and qutub better then him , and i dont know why it just me or not but when i see paridhi ravi / jodha salim eventhough jodha looks young then her son but i get the vibe motherhood from jodha even i feel nothing from salim, but when it comes to salim ruk i feel like they are husband and wife😆😆 not bari ammi and son, jodha and ruk are mother to salim but i get two differences vibe from them hahahaha
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ndi.anggraeni81

from my personal pov its the character salim itself that i dont like and i must blame it to cv to make salim like this, personally i dont have problem when they decide to take leap but too bad they butcher salim character, its seems like cv want to make jodha jalal suffer so they give them this unreasonable salim, if they make salim character more likeable from the start and create good story this wont happened, its seem like cv try to make second jodha akbar with salim anar, remember when young jalal hate hamida and blindly love maham anga now same happen to salim, and of course who will forget how jalal fall for jodha the first time he meet her then hate her then love her and now salim fall the same track too, if they make salim anar with different story and give equal scene between jodha akbar and salim anarkali may be people wont runaway from this show, i mean come one even the title this show is jodha akbar so how can people keep watching it when salim anar dominate the screen ( i keep watching it for my parijat esp pari )

now bout ravi i must admit he must learn a lot cause i feel sth off in his acting, specially his facial expression, when it come to emotional scene with rajat or paridhi the differences too huge, rajat and paridhi tandem too powerfull for ravi to handle, only good actor with amazing acting skill who can catch up with rajat paridhi, these two are the best in emotional scene so if the co star act average these two amazing talent with eat him/her alive 😉😃

i dont have personal issue with ravi just hope he will improve his acting skill, even actor who play murad and qutub better then him , and i dont know why it just me or not but when i see paridhi ravi / jodha salim eventhough jodha looks young then her son but i get the vibe motherhood from jodha even i feel nothing from salim, but when it comes to salim ruk i feel like they are husband and wife😆😆 not bari ammi and son, jodha and ruk are mother to salim but i get two differences vibe from them hahahaha

true even murad gets less screen space but he is quite impressive n n shown his calibre in all emotions whetherbe it comedy proud prince for his father caring son with jodha n gulab pari sscene or always pulling leg to younger brother or teasing him or having full respect n faith in elder bro sad happy eachexpressions his performance is far better than actor playing salim n he is looking better than him
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Posted: 10 years ago
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MY POV IS AS FOLLOWS -


1. THE REEL SALIM IS A PRODUCT OF THE DISGUSTING AND TOTALLY UNCREATIVE MINDS OF OUR SO CALLED CVS.

THE REAL JEHANGIR, ALTHOUGH A VICTIM OF HIS MANY ADDICTIONS AND QUIRKS, WAS CERTAINLY NOT SO EVER SINCE HE WAS BORN, AS SHOWN IN THE SHOW.

THOUGH IT MAY BE TRUE THAT AKBAR WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL MUGHAL KINGS IN TERMS OF EXPANSION OF THE KINGDOM AND OTHER IMPORTANT PARAMETERS, BUT JAHANGIR WAS NO LESS. HE TOO EXPANDED THE MIGHAL KINGDOM, ENCOURAGED THE ARTS ETC.,AND ALSO CARRIED OUT SEVERAL CONSTRUCTIONS. AND IT IS ONLY IN THE LATER PERIOD OF HIS LIFE THAT HE GAVE WAY TO HIS ADDICTIONS AND LET NOOR JEHANTAKE OVER MOST OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES.

YES HIS CHARACTER WAS NOT AS STRONG AS AKBAR, BUT THEN DOES IT NOT TAKE ALL KINDS TO MAKE THE WORLD?


THE REEL SALIM IN JA, HOWEVER,IS THE MOST DISGUSTING AND DISAGREEABLE PERSON THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE WHOLE SHOW


2. HIS HATRED FOR HIS PARENTS FROM SUCH AN EARLY AGE IS, BY FAR, THE MOST IRRITATING FEATURE OF HIS CHARACTER.

YES HISTORICALLY JALAL AND SALIM NEVER SAW EYE TO EYE ON MOST MATTERS.

BUT TO THRUST THIS KIND OF NEGATIVITY ON THE VIEWERSIS CERTAINLY NOT JUSTIFIED

I KNOW THAT TO SOME EXTENT RUKS IS SHOWN TO BE RESPINSIBLE FOR THIS. BUT THIS KIND OF VISUALIZATION AND DEPICTION IS FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED, SPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS LITERATURE TO SUPPORT THE VIEW THAT THE REAL SALIM HELD HIS MOTHER IN EXTREMELY HIGH REGARD


3. HIS WALLOWING CONSTANTLY IN SELF PITY IS EXTREMELY DEMEANING TO THE REAL SALIM

EVERY TIME THERE IS AN ISSUE, OR FOR THAT MATTER, A NON ISSUE, HE IS THE FIRST ONE WHO ERUPTS LIKE A VOLCANO, ALMOST AS IF THERE IS NO ONE SADDER OR MORE MISFORTUNE RIDDEN THAN HIM.

AND FOR A HEIR AND A PRINCE OF HIS STATURE, IT IS MOST UNBECOMING

4. HIS RUDENESS WHILE INTERACTING WITH HIS FATHER IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE

SALIM HAS HARDLY EVER REFERRED TO HIS FATHER HAS ABBUJAAN. HE ALWAYS ADDRESSES JALAL AS SHAHENSHAH AND JODHA AS MUZ.

AND YET THE BASIC RESPECT THAT ONE WOULD GIVE TO AN EMPEROR IS COMPLETELY MISSING IN HIS BEHAVIOUR.

THIS IS YET ANOTHER FEATURE OF HIS WHICH MAKES HIM HATE WORTHY

5. HIS FAVOURITE WORD IS MOHABBAT ( RECALL HOW IN HIS FIRST EPISODE AS AN ADULT, HE WAS TELLING HIS FRIEND THAT HE WOULD LIKE HIS NAME TO GO DOWN IN A BOOK OF EVERLASTING LOVE ) BUT NOTHING IN HIS DEMEANOUR SUGGESTS THAT HE EVEN UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE WORD LOVE MEANS

HOW CAN VIEWERS TOLERATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NEVER DISPLAYED EVEN NEAR HUMAN EMOTIONS TOWARDS YOUR PARENTS ( WHO LOVE YOU TO DEATH) BUT YOU CLAIM TO LOVE SOMEONE ELSE TILL KINGDOM COME?

IS LOVE A JOKE?


THE CHARACTER OF SALIM IN JA IS ABSOLUTELY NOT REDEEMABLE. THE ONLY THING WE CAN HOPE FOR IS REDUCED SCREEN SPACE

ACCORDING TO ME, THE ONLY GOOD THING THAT INTRODUCTION OF SALIM HAS BROUGHT FORTH IS THAT ALL VIEWERS ARE UNITED IN SAYING THAT WE HATE HIM, AS A RESULT OF WHICH JALAL AND JODHA HAVE BECOME LEADS ONCE AGAIN
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I find both the character and actor unimpressive. Forgetting that he is a son of a great emperor his lack of judgement ,trust in his parents makes him annoying he is ready to listen false tales by all near whether on parents Anar etc. A child usually observes his parents behavior and learns some traits if not all. The C Vs have made him a weak character telling false things, bragging and not wanting to take responsibility.Though later they have improved his character but again they keep swaying his character so when I start thinking he is OK again he switches back to his bad qualities.

though down south we have a saying that nothing grows under a Banyan tree (meaning A son of a great man cant grow gr88) but at least the way he sees his parents behavior help him absorb some good traits.
Edited by PutijaChalhov - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ha ha ha 😆 Happening post 😉

I would like to say one thing , The REAL FACT was we loved JODHA n AKBAR - The MOST 😳 So we were shattered to hear the Announcement of Leap and SA taking the CENTER STAGE That was the MAIN REASON ( or atleast i think so 😕) , where the majority of Masses Disliked the VERY ENTRANCE of SALIM (BIG ONE 😆) ...


The NEXT reason was >>> The CHOICE of SALIM ACTOR , As said by a forum member in her POST in this thread

People couldnt connect him with DASHING RAJAT 😊 in anyway !!! AND he being portrayed as , ALWAYS manipulated by everyone ( say Ruqu , haider n whoever not 🤢)

And being IRRESPECTABLE towards his PARENTS 😡 ( ESPECIALLY calling JO as MUZ n Ruqu as AMMIJAAN ) ... Altogether , it's the poor characterisation of SALIM in the show ( or may be selection of actor too ) that's y we hate to see salim

And about his REDEMPTION , I dont know whether it will ever happen ?? 🤔 Whatever he does , we cant forget his deeds RIGHT from his INCEPTION in this show 🤓 And with this CVs , I doubt it BIG TIME 😆
Edited by Suganya.S - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ndi.anggraeni81



i dont have personal issue with ravi just hope he will improve his acting skill, even actor who play murad and qutub better then him , and i dont know why it just me or not but when i see paridhi ravi / jodha salim eventhough jodha looks young then her son but i get the vibe motherhood from jodha even i feel nothing from salim, but when it comes to salim ruk i feel like they are husband and wife😆😆 not bari ammi and son, jodha and ruk are mother to salim but i get two differences vibe from them hahahaha


True. The actor playing Murad is much better. Though not dashing he looks like a prince and can get his emotions right. He is as sweet as cutie pie little murad was.😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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First and formost I think is the actor is not appealing for the particular character, so no one want to think further about character or story-line
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Suganya.S

Ha ha ha 😆 Happening post 😉


I would like to say one thing , The REAL FACT was we loved JODHA n AKBAR - The MOST 😳 So we were shattered to hear the Announcement of Leap and SA taking the CENTER STAGE That was the MAIN REASON ( or atleast i think so 😕) , where the majority of Masses Disliked the VERY ENTRANCE of SALIM (BIG ONE 😆) ...


The NEXT reason was >>> The CHOICE of SALIM ACTOR , As said by a forum member in her POST in this thread

People couldnt connect him with DASHING RAJAT 😊 in anyway !!! AND he being portrayed as , ALWAYS manipulated by everyone ( say Ruqu , haider n whoever not 🤢)

And being IRRESPECTABLE towards his PARENTS 😡 ( ESPECIALLY calling JO as MUZ n Ruqu as AMMIJAAN ) ... Altogether , it's the poor characterisation of SALIM in the show ( or may be selection of actor too ) that's y we hate to see salim

And about his REDEMPTION , I dont know whether it will ever happen ?? 🤔 Whatever he does , we cant forget his deeds RIGHT from his INCEPTION in this show 🤓 And with this CVs , I doubt it BIG TIME 😆



@Radhika: Lovey post..well written.

@Suganya: Well said

For me I have no hatred for this Salim so far as I feel as Parents JJ also failed.

Also if we look at the younger Jalal, he was also very attached to Mamanga and blindly believed her, Ruks and insulted HB, his own mother, on many many occasions. That said we did not hate Jalal so much in those days. Now, I think our love for Jalal and Jodha is also another reason for hating Salim as we cant stand someone insulting our loved ones.

But I dislike Salim for reasons like
1. Calling Jodha as MUZ, Ruks as Ammijaan
2. He sympathizes with himself and forgets to see anything beyond him.
3. Not able to connect with this Salim yet, I feel Ravi as an actor has a long way to go.
4. Leap was one of the issues as we all were not ready for it.

Edited by SindhuMenon - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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first of all as all said we can't coonect with him as we did with rajat .
his hatred for his parents is beyond acceptance ,the way he speaks with them insults them
thw way he says he loves anar but can't understand his parents love and sacrifice ,noone can love anyone else if they can't love their own parents .disagreing is fine being a teenager you can't agreee everything ,even protesting can do in a sensible manner but to hate your own parents and disrespecting them is not the way.
the poor characterisation of salim calling jodha MUZ .
ya it is fault of JJ but even salim has faults he should atleast try to understand his parents and as sindhu di said probably our love for akdha is only responsible for the hatred coupled with his faults
Edited by .AKDHASWARA. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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When jalal hated hb and believed ma blindly he had reasons. He knew ma risked her life to save his. And protected him throughout. His own parents were nowhere near. But Ruqaiya hasn't done anything so special.And Jodha and Jalal were always there for him and tried to explain things to him. it was salim who has always refused to see reason.
jalal never self pitied himself. He never thwarted those who were kind and affectionate to him. Even with hb he slowly started gravitating to her when he started living with her and seeing her goodness without any explanations . But Salim inspite of so much explanations and attempts to make him understand chooses to be blind.

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