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MaddyO

@MaddyO

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Posted: 10 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0
Hi Maddy
It's so, so, so wonderful to see your thread again on a Sunday after ages! 😊

I agree with you totally. JA was the first show I watched after years and with what passion! I couldn't bear to miss a single episode and nor could I see Jodha shedding tears. I skipped quite a few episodes simply because I couldn't bear to see Jodha being humiliated or getting hurt.

To me, everything else was/is secondary to the character of Jodha. And to be frank, I stopped watching JA finally because I couldn't bear to see Salim hurting Jodha emotionally and going away from her.

JA was the serial which made me join this forum in a most uncharacteristic manner. I still do not know what drove me to join IF and having joined, to make "virtual friends". Somewhere in my heart, I have detached myself emotionally from JA and whatever is happening to the show, it seems as if it is happening to some show that means nothing to me. This JA currently being aired seems to have no connect with the JA i loved. And loved so much that I spent hours of precious time, sacrificing work, food, and sleep, discussing / reading about the show on the forum.

Now I don't even read WUs. The last thread I made was when Jodha got the right to issue farmans. After that, Jodha has been reduced to looking like a beautiful wall flower. With nothing substantial to say or do. And worse still, a son who loved and respected her immensely is being shown to be just the opposite. It hurts me to the core as a woman and as a mother to see a mother-son relationship being mutilated like this for some mysterious reason.

Will miss reading your heartfelt and candid posts, Maddy! 🤗Hope we meet on some other forum soon. 😊

Hi Radhika 😃
Do you remember your thread after Jodha left Agra when Jalal asked her to leave (in Sujamal in haram track)? I remember it had such intense heated discussions ran to 50 odd pages with wonderfully written posts giving pro and anti arguments! The wonderful long post of Kaana who was a newbie then on that thread.

I used to read newbie threads & when I loved a post used to mark it for sharing on Sunday. Our late night 12 a.m. PMs discussing the episode! The long discussions - all because we loved Jodha Jalal so much. I also love Jodha more - for me it was always Jodha's Jalal that I loved.
I remember the Jalal pray for Jodha's life episode - the episode when Jalal Jodha have the discussion at night when she wakes up. There are so many episodes & scenes which are still everfresh in my mind.

How much Paridhi & Rajat lived JA roles - it is like they ARE JA. What chemistry their single eye lock had!

How much each JA forum member loved JA - to see it reduced to this level for the lack of creativity of CVs is painful. Wish they had just followed the story & viewers attachment with JA would have still kept it on top. You are right, I don't even care what is happening anymore.

Hope we meet on some other serial forum soon.

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jojaparijat

@jojaparijat

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: myviewprem
Happy new year 2015

We have no option yaar they fund the show they can show anything like Jo running off with Khaiber, Akbar falling at muz feet to ask sorry, jhoru ka ghulam Akbar to ruq and jo both, salim hating his parents, anarkali hairdresser and man bai friend 😆 what a comedy nowadays JA is more laughter riot only and best part salim never want to be shahenshah 😲 he can atleast say I do not want shahenshah for next few years but no he loves to be commoner 😕

They made

Akbar Jhoru ka ghulam

Jo bashan queen who disobeys husband for everything

Salim nafarman baccha and dinking hafim from 8 years of age

Anarkali hair stylist (I had no idea such profession was there then)

Next what Man Bai - hafim addict and drunkard may be like in siyasat

Jagat Gosain- ruq part2 for sure(wonder how Salim shall accept another ruqaiah in life)

Nur Jahan- ruq part3 and maham part3(part2 is ruq)

No wonder Jehangir drank himself to death in real life with such moms and wives and add to that sons baying for throne its best to drown in wine and be in surreal world(guilt of his rebellion will be last thing I mind)

Wonder how Akbar managed without any addiction with many more wives, maham, ruq, salim, may be he was addicted to woman 😉 and married 15-16 year olds in 1599 etc at age of late 50s

I was reading the memories of Montessori he was a French priest who taught murad and salim bible and Christianity and Vincent Smith book and both say that Akbar had 3 useless sons all three drank a lot, it is scathing in its details of daniyal's addiction(eye account) and even murad's death mentioned. They mention salim survived only because he was of stronger make up. But all three drank equally and a lot at young ages of 20-25 only.

Recently my professor was taking up a class and he discussed human behaviour and family etc and he says the impact a child(son especially because father is role model for kid) has on seeing his father having many wives etc the examples and impact he mentioned it is mind blogging. I am wonder in 16th centuy too did all this matter because all of Akbar's sons drank themselves to death. Instead of exploring all these aspects these CVs only want saas-bahu dramas.

Its around teenage years a child starts becoming independent, confident to survive on own and starts questioning things around it. Salim, Murad, Daniyal both have reached that stage. This is when usually father-son conflict starts even in modern families. So will be interesting to see how Salim ques his father or how Akbar handles those highly cmplex ques(if they are ever asked) during anarkali stage

@bold

I disagree with UR point!

U have more knowledge of history than me.SALIM LOVED HIS MOTHER MUZ D MOST R8?..THN HOW IS SHE RESPONIBLE4 DRUNK HIM DRINKING N DEATH?

I expect u to respect women a bit!

At that time women were d ones suffering bcos of polygamy n not men!

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

Sparkler

Posted: 10 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: Rasika29
Maddy...🤗
Awesome post...your Sunday thread after so long...😃
Couldn't agree more with each and every line you wrote...JA is an epic lovestory only for us viewers...

I Hope we all meet up soon some other forum maybe, I really miss all my friends that I made here in JA forum.

Hi Rasika 😃🤗
Thanks, I felt I needed to make a final Sunday thread.

JA has still retained its magic in my mind - I would rather remember JA this way. I still love Jodha Jalal as much they are epic - magic for me.
Hope we will meet soon on some new forum.

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

Sparkler

Posted: 10 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: jojaparijat
Hi,MADDY
NICE TO SEE UR THREAD AFTER A LONG TIME!
WONDERFUL POST!
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH U!
I WON'T EXPRESS MUCH BCOS I MAY GET EMOTIONAL!
U HAVE BEEN A PARIJAT SUPPORTER ..NOT PARI OR RAJAT SUPPORTER!
MISS OLD CHARM OF D SHOW WHERE EVERY TRACK OR STRY WAS WRITTEN 4 AKDHA .BUT NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT SALIM..THIS WILL NEVER CHANGE,EVEN AFTER SA..SINCE AFTER THAT SALIM-MAAN-JAGAT-NOOR..WHILE AKDHA WILL B PLAYING PARENTS LIKE BHARMAAL-MAINA!
THIS STRY OF JODHA-AKBAR HAD SO MUCH SCOPE THAT IT HAD 2 YRS STRY W/O LEAP!
BUT I DON'T KNOW 4 WAT,THEY TOOK SUCH A DRASTIC N FOOLISH STEP OF LEAPS 2 SHOW SALIM'S LUV STRYS EVEN AFTER HAVING HIGH TRPS!
I WISH N HOPE SOME OTHER BETTER PH TAKE UP THIS STRY OF JODHA-AKBAR WID D SAME LEADS..N SHOW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THEIR LIVES W/O SKIPPING N TAKING LEAPS!

THANX MADDY..HOPE WE MEET UP IN D FORUM WID D SAME STRY WID SAME LEADS..A PH N CHANNEL WHO COULD DO JUSTICE 2 STRY OF AKBAR MUZ!😉

Hi 😃
I know JA old memories can still get us so emotional. Jodha Jalal had such a hold on us that we could not stop discussing them - spent hours here on forum. What magic Paridhi & Rajat created with their chemistry!

I had really thought why would they even consider a leap - they had decades of story left! They started sinking JA when it became everything about Ruk 😡🤢🤢

How I wish we get to watch JA from the episode after Hussain where instead of blaming Jodha Jalal shuts Ruk up, Ruk kids switching is revealed & Jalal distances from Ruk. Jodha Jalal bonding further - some positive tracks like Maan Singh, Aziz Koka weddings - the craving for a child ------ WHY WHY they did this? 🤢 Wouldn't it be wonderful if we got to watch JA again with better writers without a leap not miss anything of life of our beloved Akdha & RTPS. 😳 Not going to happen.

Hope we meet again on some other serial forum soon.

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

Sparkler

Posted: 10 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: Rutuja...
Awesome. Post... we should really move on without wasting much time... 😉

cvs n Zee are here only for business... so they kept ignoring our all request.. we can't help it now.. just ignore them and better move on...😊

May be RT-PS also doing this crap just for the sake of Contract.. I can't see any other reason..

Just Hope they get better Roles in future to show their talent... 😳

Thanks Rutuja 😃
I have moved on! 😆 I stopped watching JA after HH tracks. The Ruk glorification finally made me give up on JA - it had stopped being any entertainment, instead became a torture to watch.

I am watching something else at 8 pm. which has wonderful acting, interesting different storyline & very human characters. Totally worth my 30 mins!

I sincerely wish huge success & acclaim for Paridhi & Rajat - they deserve it totally. Maybe you are right - they cannot leave because of the contracts. Just hope they get a big better project soon.

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Sindhu Menon

@SindhuMenon

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#36

Thanks Maddy for this Post. Got to read posts from many of our old friends today. Happy new Year to all of you. Hopefully soon we can meet up somewhere...

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Cleo12345

@Cleo12345

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Posted: 10 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: Charu.S

Hi Cleo, how are you?

Good to hear from you after a long time.

Happy New Year.😊

Happy new year Charu!

I miss reading your posts. Work is keeping me very busy these days ( winters months are always busy for me) therefore, not very active on the forum. Infact, I am unable to watch any TV these days.Barely keeping up with the news. Haven't had a chance to read the latest on Abhay's blog either. However, I check my email regularly so when I get a PM, I log in as soon as I get a chance. I don't want to miss reading a heartfelt thread like this one. When you make a thread, please include me in the PM list. I love reading your views

Take care,

Cleo

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Charu

@Charu.S

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

Happy new year Charu!
I miss reading your posts. Work is keeping me very busy these days ( winters months are always busy for me) therefore, not very active on the forum. Infact, I am unable to watch any TV these days.Barely keeping up with the news. Haven't had a chance to read the latest on Abhay's blog either. However, I check my email regularly so when I get a PM, I log in as soon as I get a chance. I don't want to miss reading a heartfelt thread like this one. When you make a thread, please include me in the PM list. I love reading your views
Take care,
Cleo

I hardly interact on the forum these days Cleo.

It is really sad that this forum once a medium for lively discussions based on Jodha and Akbar is now dull and lifeless, thanks to EK.

There was absolutely no need for her to have taken the leap. There were still many historical aspects, social achievements, political and religious policies of Akbar, his relations with the Rajvanshis, the Portuguese, the expansion of his empire, the growth in his family etc,etc, to mention a few that could have been addressed in detail for a whole year, without having to be subjected to this utter nonsense in the name of leap.

To make matters worse, Jodha and Akbar do not look old enough to be parents of a grown up Salim. The storyline, screenplay, dialogues, everything is poor and I foresee a bleak future for the present track.

I've nothing against the new actors playing various roles. All of them are trying hard to prove themselves. However, Jodha and Akbar have left an indelible impression in our minds with their personalities and performance and it is impossible to see any other pair take their place, with a new story that is still being shown under the title of Jodha and Akbar.

Ekta could have treated the characters of Jodha and Akbar respectfully, by decently ending the serial post the birth of Salim. She could have then started the love saga of Salim/Anarkali. This would have been more acceptable and bearable.

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Sindhu Menon

@SindhuMenon

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: Charu.S

I hardly interact on the forum these days Cleo.

It is really sad that this forum once a medium for lively discussions based on Jodha and Akbar is now dull and lifeless, thanks to EK.

There was absolutely no need for her to have taken the leap. There were still many historical aspects, social achievements, political and religious policies of Akbar, his relations with the Rajvanshis, the Portuguese, the expansion of his empire, the growth in his family etc,etc, to mention a few that could have been addressed in detail for a whole year, without having to be subjected to this utter nonsense in the name of leap.

To make matters worse, Jodha and Akbar do not look old enough to be parents of a grown up Salim. The storyline, screenplay, dialogues, everything is poor and I foresee a bleak future for the present track.

I've nothing against the new actors playing various roles. All of them are trying hard to prove themselves. However, Jodha and Akbar have left an indelible impression in our minds with their personalities and performance and it is impossible to see any other pair take their place, with a new story that is still being shown under the title of Jodha and Akbar.

Ekta could have treated the characters of Jodha and Akbar respectfully, by decently ending the serial post the birth of Salim. She could have then started the love saga of Salim/Anarkali. This would have been more acceptable and bearable.

well said Charu...

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Charu

@Charu.S

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

Happy new year Charu!
I miss reading your posts. Work is keeping me very busy these days ( winters months are always busy for me) therefore, not very active on the forum. Infact, I am unable to watch any TV these days.Barely keeping up with the news. Haven't had a chance to read the latest on Abhay's blog either. However, I check my email regularly so when I get a PM, I log in as soon as I get a chance. I don't want to miss reading a heartfelt thread like this one. When you make a thread, please include me in the PM list. I love reading your views
Take care,
Cleo

Hi Cleo,😊

I'm hardly active on the forum, as I used to be. This forum that was once a medium for lively discussions on Jodha and Akbar, is now dull and lifeless.Thanks to EK and her 'leap'.

There was absolutely no need for EK to have taken the leap. There were several political, social, religious and personal aspects under Akbar's rule that could have been focussed upon for a whole year with a little drama thrown in.

The present storyline, screenplay, dialogues are not worth mentioning. Worst still is the fact that neither Jodha nor Akbar look old enough to be parents of a grown-up Salim. I foresee a bleak future for the current story.

I've nothing against the new bunch of actors performing various roles in the current story-line. All are talented and trying to establish themselves in their new roles, with a prominent production house. I'm irked with EK and cannot release my frustration on the young group of actors playing Salim, Maan Bai, Jagat Gosain and Anarkali.

Having said that I also cannot deny that Paridhi and Rajat have left an indelible impression in our minds with their pleasing personalities and superlative performances and it is impossible to accept two new leads with their own love story, under the title of Jodha and Akbar.

The least that EK could have done for Jodha and Akbar is to give their story a respectful, dignified closure after the birth of Salim, and then started a new aspect depicting the love saga of Salim and Anarkali. This would have been more acceptable and bearable. Instead she chose to cash in on Pari/Rajat's popularity as Jodha and Akbar, by introducing a whole new love story with two different leads under the name of Jodha and Akbar, just in order to gain audience approval.

This decision of hers will not work in her favor. The TRP's are steadily dipping. The audience does not want to see a middle-aged Jodha and Jalal.

Rukaiyya has been lying low since a few weeks. It is just a matter of time before she takes the position equalling Maham's in the lives of Salim/Anarkali/Maan Bai. You can imagine the rest.

If at all I make a post/thread, I will surely remember to PM you.

Have a great year and do keep in touch. Hopefully another new exciting serial comes up and we can continue with our discussions in that forum.

Cheers !

Edited by Charu.S - 10 years ago