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Posted: 10 years ago
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I can't understand some of the things properly...
1. Will salim marry maan bai first and meet anarkali later or vice versa...
2. Did salim love maan bai???
3. Was anarkali a negative character... if not then why akbar killed her???
4. khannum was of salim's age then why was khannum's birth not shown???? and why was she not shown before the leap???
5. Jodha had only one living child salim??? who were the mothers of the three daughters??

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Posted: 10 years ago
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One more confusion???????Shaguni Bai is actually settled where???
No...Jodha can go to her at anytime...😆 😆...DID AKBAR HAS A CHATTERED FLIGHT???????😕 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I want to add one more question. Jo wants to visit Ameer to attend Man Singh's Raj Abishek. When Bhagawan Das still alive (BD died @1589) then how come MS become king.
Now Salim is 15 years i.e. Now show is @ 1584/1585 .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Anarkali was buried because she was a royal courtesan and her romance with Salim was seen as a disgrace by Akbar. As much as people love Akbar, he had many faults too. He was no God. He had her buried alive so that Salim would make better alliances during his youth.

Salim never loved Maan Bai that much. He married her because she was his mother's niece and he saw it purely as a royal alliance that came with financial benefits. It was like many weddings of that time. His second wife too was not much loved. It was his third wife, Jagat Gosain (or Jagat Gosini) the princess of Jodhpur (the actual Jodha Bai according to history) that was his favorite wife until he married Nur Jahan. Jagat Gosain was also a hindu princess and she played a very important role in Salim's harem (much like Ruqaiyya in Akbar's). She was also the mother of Khurram/Shah Jahan and revolted when Akbar gave Khurram to Ruqaiyya. She and Ruqaiyya had a stiff relationship because of their respective political ambitions, and Jagat Gosain could never forgive Ruqaiyya for taking away her child from her. Even when Khurran returned to her at the age of 13, he was always Ruqaiyya's child and had immense love for her. Jagat Gosain was his mother only by birth.

Maan Bai was quiet and sensitive. She never fought with her co-wives and was always passive in the face of their ambitions. She is recorded to have committed suicide due to her immense unhappiness with her life after marriage. She was also the favorite daughter-in-law of Jodha/MUZ (no surprise due to their relationship).

After Jahangir married Nur Jahan, she usurped even Jagat Gosain's place in Jahangir's heart and harem. I think Maan Bai was already dead by then.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

Anarkali was buried because she was a royal courtesan and her romance with Salim was seen as a disgrace by Akbar. As much as people love Akbar, he had many faults too. He was no God. He had her buried alive so that Salim would make better alliances during his youth.

Salim never loved Maan Bai that much. He married her because she was his mother's niece and he saw it purely as a royal alliance that came with financial benefits. It was like many weddings of that time. His second wife too was not much loved. It was his third wife, Jagat Gosain (or Jagat Gosini) the princess of Jodhpur (the actual Jodha Bai according to history) that was his favorite wife until he married Nur Jahan. Jagat Gosain was also a hindu princess and she played a very important role in Salim's harem (much like Ruqaiyya in Akbar's). She was also the mother of Khurram/Shah Jahan and revolted when Akbar gave Khurram to Ruqaiyya. She and Ruqaiyya had a stiff relationship because of their respective political ambitions, and Jagat Gosain could never forgive Ruqaiyya for taking away her child from her. Even when Khurran returned to her at the age of 13, he was always Ruqaiyya's child and had immense love for her. Jagat Gosain was his mother only by birth.

Maan Bai was quiet and sensitive. She never fought with her co-wives and was always passive in the face of their ambitions. She is recorded to have committed suicide due to her immense unhappiness with her life after marriage. She was also the favorite daughter-in-law of Jodha/MUZ (no surprise due to their relationship).

After Jahangir married Nur Jahan, she usurped even Jagat Gosain's place in Jahangir's heart and harem. I think Maan Bai was already dead by then.

good post ks for sharing...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

Anarkali was buried because she was a royal courtesan and her romance with Salim was seen as a disgrace by Akbar. As much as people love Akbar, he had many faults too. He was no God. He had her buried alive so that Salim would make better alliances during his youth.

Salim never loved Maan Bai that much. He married her because she was his mother's niece and he saw it purely as a royal alliance that came with financial benefits. It was like many weddings of that time. His second wife too was not much loved. It was his third wife, Jagat Gosain (or Jagat Gosini) the princess of Jodhpur (the actual Jodha Bai according to history) that was his favorite wife until he married Nur Jahan. Jagat Gosain was also a hindu princess and she played a very important role in Salim's harem (much like Ruqaiyya in Akbar's). She was also the mother of Khurram/Shah Jahan and revolted when Akbar gave Khurram to Ruqaiyya. She and Ruqaiyya had a stiff relationship because of their respective political ambitions, and Jagat Gosain could never forgive Ruqaiyya for taking away her child from her. Even when Khurran returned to her at the age of 13, he was always Ruqaiyya's child and had immense love for her. Jagat Gosain was his mother only by birth.

Maan Bai was quiet and sensitive. She never fought with her co-wives and was always passive in the face of their ambitions. She is recorded to have committed suicide due to her immense unhappiness with her life after marriage. She was also the favorite daughter-in-law of Jodha/MUZ (no surprise due to their relationship).

After Jahangir married Nur Jahan, she usurped even Jagat Gosain's place in Jahangir's heart and harem. I think Maan Bai was already dead by then.



All I can say is Anarkhali is a fictional character.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

Anarkali was buried because she was a royal courtesan and her romance with Salim was seen as a disgrace by Akbar. As much as people love Akbar, he had many faults too. He was no God. He had her buried alive so that Salim would make better alliances during his youth.

Salim never loved Maan Bai that much. He married her because she was his mother's niece and he saw it purely as a royal alliance that came with financial benefits. It was like many weddings of that time. His second wife too was not much loved. It was his third wife, Jagat Gosain (or Jagat Gosini) the princess of Jodhpur (the actual Jodha Bai according to history) that was his favorite wife until he married Nur Jahan. Jagat Gosain was also a hindu princess and she played a very important role in Salim's harem (much like Ruqaiyya in Akbar's). She was also the mother of Khurram/Shah Jahan and revolted when Akbar gave Khurram to Ruqaiyya. She and Ruqaiyya had a stiff relationship because of their respective political ambitions, and Jagat Gosain could never forgive Ruqaiyya for taking away her child from her. Even when Khurran returned to her at the age of 13, he was always Ruqaiyya's child and had immense love for her. Jagat Gosain was his mother only by birth.

Maan Bai was quiet and sensitive. She never fought with her co-wives and was always passive in the face of their ambitions. She is recorded to have committed suicide due to her immense unhappiness with her life after marriage. She was also the favorite daughter-in-law of Jodha/MUZ (no surprise due to their relationship).

After Jahangir married Nur Jahan, she usurped even Jagat Gosain's place in Jahangir's heart and harem. I think Maan Bai was already dead by then.

It cannot be said satisfactorily that Anarkali is fact or fiction its a mystery.
That is because there is a tomb in Lahore name Anarkali tomb that Jehangir has inscribed many heartfelt words and mentioned himself as Majnun Salim. But no historical book except some traveller book mentions Salim-Anarkali love affair. This tomb is said to be either anarkali or his fav wife Sahib Jamal.
But Salim's true love among wives was not Jodha Bai nor Man Bai. It was Sahib Jamal his wife and neice of Zain Koka whom Akbar opposed as she was not royal but then relented but never accepted her as daughter in law till death. She was mother of his son Parvez.
All his other wives were political alliances except Nur Jahan. But it is said Salim saw Jodh Bai aka Jagat Gosain in a wedding and wanted to marry her how far it is true cannot be confirmed historically.
But one thing noted from Salim behaviour whether marriage alliances or otherwise he preferred commoners over royals be it love, friendships or any other thing. There is even a painting he got commissioned where he gives importance to sufi saint over kings etc.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

Anarkali was buried because she was a royal courtesan and her romance with Salim was seen as a disgrace by Akbar. As much as people love Akbar, he had many faults too. He was no God. He had her buried alive so that Salim would make better alliances during his youth.

Salim never loved Maan Bai that much. He married her because she was his mother's niece and he saw it purely as a royal alliance that came with financial benefits. It was like many weddings of that time. His second wife too was not much loved. It was his third wife, Jagat Gosain (or Jagat Gosini) the princess of Jodhpur (the actual Jodha Bai according to history) that was his favorite wife until he married Nur Jahan. Jagat Gosain was also a hindu princess and she played a very important role in Salim's harem (much like Ruqaiyya in Akbar's). She was also the mother of Khurram/Shah Jahan and revolted when Akbar gave Khurram to Ruqaiyya. She and Ruqaiyya had a stiff relationship because of their respective political ambitions, and Jagat Gosain could never forgive Ruqaiyya for taking away her child from her. Even when Khurran returned to her at the age of 13, he was always Ruqaiyya's child and had immense love for her. Jagat Gosain was his mother only by birth.

Maan Bai was quiet and sensitive. She never fought with her co-wives and was always passive in the face of their ambitions. She is recorded to have committed suicide due to her immense unhappiness with her life after marriage. She was also the favorite daughter-in-law of Jodha/MUZ (no surprise due to their relationship).

After Jahangir married Nur Jahan, she usurped even Jagat Gosain's place in Jahangir's heart and harem. I think Maan Bai was already dead by then.


thanks for sharing
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Posted: 10 years ago
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got to know many things from here 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Sush116--

<font size="2">One more confusion???????Shaguni Bai is actually settled where???</font>

<font size="2">No...Jodha can go to her at anytime...😆😆...DID AKBAR HAS A CHATTERED FLIGHT???????😕😕</font>


shayad ekta's modern akbar has one!!!!

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