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Posted: 10 years ago
#91
Hi Radhika,
Thanks for the PM and glad to see ur post as I was missing ur views .An interesting analysis on Relations .Thanks for sharing.
I would like to add two more here as those are the ones which I liked in otherwise a disgusting track.
Jalal - BB's Daughter Relation.
Sorry I Don't remember the girls name but this is how I wished NR's should be . The morpankh on the quran was a classy touch , it made me nostalgic of why I started loving this serial (a rarity by cvs these days)a beautiful conglomeration of two customs and culture depicting the richness of our heritage and also loved the message it brought out caring for special children's .The girl emoted very well by her expression and made me wish for more scenes between her and her beloved mamujaan.
Salim-Hb Relation
A grandparent - grandchild relation is always so special and a treat to watch and loved the way its being depicted between Hb and salim ,
Murad-Rahim Relation:
. I guess Rahim cannot understand murad's feeling completely for one he is an youngster who idolizes jalal and his chotti ammijaan and was so fortunate enough to enjoy their abundant love and care. Though he lost his real father, jalal and whole of agra showered him with such love and care , but sadly murad is seeming to miss out on everything. I don't know what is the intention of cvs but from what they have shown till now both jalal and jo seems to be indifferent with both murad and daniyaal .Personally I feel indifference is as harmful as deliberate ignorance and how would a kid of that age when their world so revolve around parents to see a father never showing any interest on him and murad wouldn't understand Rahim and would certainly think he is taking the side of salim and no one really loves him .Its sad to see any child being subjected to this.
The Salim - Ruqaiyya Relation
This is one sick relation brought out by cvs and feeling very disgusted . This is the lowest by cvs so far . This is seemingly a historical fiction and what are they trying to achieve by showing an innocent kid being fed with opium and how sick should the person be to feed it to a child and what is need for showing it at family time when we are battling against so many crimes perpetrated on innocent kids
Daniyaal Ruqsaar Relation:
I remember her supporting jo in the election and I guess from what it is shown she may be ambitious as she always wanted to put ruq down . I don't know if she has real affection for jo but she looked like she wanted to win ruq and so yes I think she would want her son to take more interest in politics and gain a place for him thereby she could enjoy privileges that comes along with it .But daaniyal looked cute and is adorable.
R Factor
I too think resham is the one who should have poisoned haider ,but failed to understand her motives. First I was surprised to see her with ruq as I thought she hated ruq for the way she treated maham in her dying days . Jo only supported her and even maham wished jo so wouldn't it be the case that she would wish to be with jo? or may be ruq chose her?
Edited by prav2 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: lasyap3


Thank you Sindhu...atleast these are the stuff on which we can rely for entertainment

Lasya Glad to see you back. Missed ur posts and loved your emoticons.. awesome...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: lasyap3


I have seen the MISSION BLASTING

Lasya, I missed reading your sensitive and profound write-ups. Please compile one soon 😊.

Continue posting these apt and funny emoticons Lasya.😆 They are cute. I'm enjoying every one of them.
The writers and Creatives are a confused and pathetic lot. They desperately need help because they find Rukaiyya 'angelic'. 😲 😲 Considering this frightful insight on their part, I'm now wondering how the portrayal of the bachchas in the mahal will progress. We are already witnessing an act as horrendous as drugging, if we continue to be an audience, God knows what other horrifying workings of a wicked mind, we will be subjected to.

I blame no one but myself for developing a liking ( bordering on addiction) to this serial and some of its characters. As of today, I have promised myself that under no circumstances will I give into temptation or persuasion and watch this serial that has scant respect for children.

If the Creatives even had an iota of genuine responsibility towards kids and their overall wellbeing, they would not have incorporated the opium drugging scene in the story line. Even if this incident had really occurred four hundred and fifty years back, still there was no need to televise it so blatantly and give unnecessary ideas to the viewers. The television is a powerful medium. A reputed production house like BT and a channel like Zee TV should put that power to good use and not irresponsibly show a hazardous and life threatening vice such as drug ingestion, during primetime.



Charu.

Edited by Charu.S - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: lasyap3


WTH???🤢

Kya BAKWAAS hai yaar😆

Ab yahi dekhna reh gaya tha

Ab beech mein Ruqaiyya aayegi aur Salim ko le jaayegi, opium khilaane...Ye dono dumbo's ese hi VAAD VIVAAD karne mein vyast rahenge...




Yahan par yeh sab hi dekhne to milega. Jodha and Akbar will keep fighting. And, Ruqayya will hatch the plots and this Sultanate will run by itself, by dispatching 2-3 soldiers somewhere once in a while. 😉.😆

Jodha who was an intelligent business women, handled Haj ships, commanded cavalry, looked after spice trade, was capable of multi tasking. And had GREAT powers has been reduced to a doormat at the hands of Ruqayya.

They did not make any formal proclamation of her becoming MUZ, but Ruqayya was shown as Malika-e-Sultanate. 😆 Is this show Jodha Akbar or ONLY Ruqayya.?. 😉

And, one of the GREATest Emperors has been reduced to taking rounds in his palace and hojra and doing nothing, gets be fooled by his bachpan ka dost every now and then. Kismat achi ho to kabhi kabhi we get to see Sword fights, even that appears repetitive and boring now. Can't we have some gun shots practice.?.😕

We get DEK scenes especially for staging Ruqayya's smirks, like the baby sharing . For rest of the matters no DEK is held. Dewan-e-Aam ko dekhne ko to aankhen taras gai hain.. 😆

What can one say of this state.?. And what can one expect.?. The CV's are busy promoting their ZABARdasti ki EPIC love story of Salim Anarkali, in a show named Jodha Akbar. 🤢

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Posted: 10 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: history_geek



Yahan par yeh sab hi dekhne to milega. Jodha and Akbar will keep fighting. And, Ruqayya will hatch the plots and this Sultanate will run by itself, by dispatching 2-3 soldiers somewhere once in a while. 😉.😆

Jodha who was an intelligent business women, handled Haj ships, commanded cavalry, looked after spice trade, was capable of multi tasking. And had GREAT powers has been reduced to a doormat at the hands of Ruqayya.

They did not make any formal proclamation of her becoming MUZ, but Ruqayya was shown as Malika-e-Sultanate. 😆 Is this show Jodha Akbar or ONLY Ruqayya.?. 😉

And, one of the GREATest Emperors has been reduced to taking rounds in his palace and hojra and doing nothing, gets be fooled by his bachpan ka dost every now and then. Kismat achi ho to kabhi kabhi we get to see Sword fights, even that appears repetitive and boring now. Can't we have some gun shots practice.?.😕

We get DEK scenes especially for staging Ruqayya's smirks, like the baby sharing . For rest of the matters no DEK is held. Dewan-e-Aam ko dekhne ko to aankhen taras gai hain.. 😆

What can one say of this state.?. And what can one expect.?. The CV's are busy promoting their ZABARdasti ki EPIC love story of Salim Anarkali, in a show named Jodha Akbar. 🤢


@red

Aura😆

Revised Title name: Kahani Ruqaiyya ki😆

@ blue

Chalo atleast beech beech main hi sahi...mil to raha hai na😆

@pink

Yahan Hamaam khaana tak nasseb nahi hota...Diwaan e Aam kya cheez hai🤣

@ green

Pehle Salim aur Anarkali ki prem gaatha



Uske paschyaat

Cchood chhad ke apne Salim ki gali Anarkali disco chali😆
Edited by lasyap3 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: prav2

Hi Radhika,
Thanks for the PM and glad to see ur post as I was missing ur views .An interesting analysis on Relations .Thanks for sharing.
I would like to add two more here as those are the ones which I liked in otherwise a disgusting track.
Jalal - BB's Daughter Relation.
Sorry I Don't remember the girls name but this is how I wished NR's should be . The morpankh on the quran was a classy touch , it made me nostalgic of why I started loving this serial (a rarity by cvs these days)a beautiful conglomeration of two customs and culture depicting the richness of our heritage and also loved the message it brought out caring for special children's .The girl emoted very well by her expression and made me wish for more scenes between her and her beloved mamujaan.
Salim-Hb Relation
A grandparent - grandchild relation is always so special and a treat to watch and loved the way its being depicted between Hb and salim ,
Murad-Rahim Relation:
. I guess Rahim cannot understand murad's feeling completely for one he is an youngster who idolizes jalal and his chotti ammijaan and was so fortunate enough to enjoy their abundant love and care. Though he lost his real father, jalal and whole of agra showered him with such love and care , but sadly murad is seeming to miss out on everything. I don't know what is the intention of cvs but from what they have shown till now both jalal and jo seems to be indifferent with both murad and daniyaal .Personally I feel indifference is as harmful as deliberate ignorance and how would a kid of that age when their world so revolve around parents to see a father never showing any interest on him and murad wouldn't understand Rahim and would certainly think he is taking the side of salim and no one really loves him .Its sad to see any child being subjected to this.
The Salim - Ruqaiyya Relation
This is one sick relation brought out by cvs and feeling very disgusted . This is the lowest by cvs so far . This is seemingly a historical fiction and what are they trying to achieve by showing an innocent kid being fed with opium and how sick should the person be to feed it to a child and what is need for showing it at family time when we are battling against so many crimes perpetrated on innocent kids
Daniyaal Ruqsaar Relation:
I remember her supporting jo in the election and I guess from what it is shown she may be ambitious as she always wanted to put ruq down . I don't know if she has real affection for jo but she looked like she wanted to win ruq and so yes I think she would want her son to take more interest in politics and gain a place for him thereby she could enjoy privileges that comes along with it .But daaniyal looked cute and is adorable.
R Factor
I too think resham is the one who should have poisoned haider ,but failed to understand her motives. First I was surprised to see her with ruq as I thought she hated ruq for the way she treated maham in her dying days . Jo only supported her and even maham wished jo so wouldn't it be the case that she would wish to be with jo? or may be ruq chose her?


A fantastic post Priya👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: prav2

Lasya Glad to see you back. Missed ur posts and loved your emoticons.. awesome...


I was in my RDC camp dear...I mentioned that I would be MIA in one of Radhika's thread before going...Glad that you liked my emo's ...You know there is nothing much left to discuss about the show so better make some fun by these things😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: -aady-


Lasya, that's the problem everyone is having. 😆 The serial has decided to JUST ignore history completely,so here all the wrong mothers for you.

--> Murad- Salima Begum
--> Daniyal- Ruksar Begum( who was an insignificant begum, they suddenly decided to give a kid to)
--> Haider( Fictional)- Javeda Begum
--> Qutub- Shahmshad Bano( the nurse Salim chisti appointed)


An excellent proof that CVs are nonsense personified 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Charu.S


Good morning Radhika.

Thank you for appreciating my write-up.

I am annoyed and frustrated at the progress of the story, especially at the portrayal of the kids. The Creative team have their own ideas as to how history and historical characters should be presented. If they are capable of showing a prince being drugged, then they can stoop to any level.
Nadira aur Haider toh door ki baat hai. Haider is shown as a replica of Adham Khan. I can see Anarkali growing up to be an opinionated, head strong, no nonsense kind of girl, whom Salim will fall in love with. Even at a young age,we see her standing up for what is right, no amount of scolding is going to stop this hot headed girl, again the progress of her character lies in the imagination of the Creatives.

I have no clue as to how they will develop the characters of the princes once they are grown up. For now, we see the innocent, childlike aspect of their personality, ( barring Haider ). I wouldn't be surprised if all of them including Salim turn rebellious towards Jalal. After all we see them being anxious and petrified in his presence.
I know that Jalal allotting different states to each of them does not indicate that they have to partake in administrative work, my point was that, every responsibility has an appropriate age for it. Wearing the crown alone weighed the little prince down, just the mere thought of being figuratively responsible for numerous states, can be mind boggling for a child. Those allotments if done during teenage, is still acceptable. Let the kid enjoy his childhood, was my point. Maybe Jalal remembered his own juvenile years and the responsibilities thrusted upon his delicate shoulders, and wanted his sons to start gaining experience and knowledge on several aspects of kingship,earlier on in life.

BTW, yesterday Rukaiyya called herself an 'angel',😲 😲 😡 😡 during her story telling session with Salim. So the Creatives' example of a 'PARI' is Rukaiyya. 😕 😕 😲 😲 🤣 🤣



@bold

I was about to fall off from my chair...due to uncontrollable anger and laughter at a time
😡😆
Edited by lasyap3 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Charu.S

Lasya, I missed reading your sensitive and profound write-ups. Please compile one soon 😊.

I too missed the forum a lot...I was in my RDC camp...will be there in full action on the forum,regularly...😃

I would be grateful to you if you could please give me one such topic in the show...on which I can write something😕Because I am not able to find anything in this show,now,that is relevant for writing...

Continue posting these apt and funny emoticons Lasya.😆 They are cute. I'm enjoying every one of them.

Thank you and will surely do that😊

The writers and Creatives are a confused and pathetic lot. They desperately need help because they find Rukaiyya 'angelic'. 😲 😲 Considering this frightful insight on their part, I'm now wondering how the portrayal of the bachchas in the mahal will progress. We are already witnessing an act as horrendous as drugging, if we continue to be an audience, God knows what other horrifying workings of a wicked mind, we will be subjected to.

Mujhe nahi pata ab iske baare main kya bolu...You see Charu...I don't know why the CVs have such DELUSION !! They are building castles in Spain!!

I have to say just one thing here--

"A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."

I blame no one but myself for developing a liking ( bordering on addiction) to this serial and some of its characters. As of today, I have promised myself that under no circumstances will I give into temptation or persuasion and watch this serial that has scant respect for children.

If the Creatives even had an iota of genuine responsibility towards kids and their overall wellbeing, they would not have incorporated the opium drugging scene in the story line. Even if this incident had really occurred four hundred and fifty years back, still there was no need to televise it so blatantly and give unnecessary ideas to the viewers. The television is a powerful medium. A reputed production house like BT and a channel like Zee TV should put that power to good use and not irresponsibly show a hazardous and life threatening vice such as drug ingestion, during primetime.


Charu.


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You have nailed it...👏

@ pink

I have to say something about Zee...It was the first channel being watched in my family...the only channel which my Amma used to watch from 1992...as it was just launched at the time of my parents marriage...Why it being being the first satellite channel,in spite of having a prestigious past of 20 years...entertaining us with its OUT OF BOX shows...all the time...is now,sadly not taking any initiative...for using it's influence for spreading good message in people...😕

BT ko toh hamesha NONSENSE dikhaane ki aadat hai.,inke serials saalon saal chalte hain,for many generations...but at least Zee could be selective in its approach..😕

Showing such things is socially not acceptable🤬

P.S:These are only my views...no offence to anyone

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