Originally posted by: chennaigirl
I have overcome the addiction to this show..Its just another show..I don't care what they do in JA..Just watch it and change it if Ruk comes on screen..Its not really worth watching to me really..
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Originally posted by: chennaigirl
I have overcome the addiction to this show..Its just another show..I don't care what they do in JA..Just watch it and change it if Ruk comes on screen..Its not really worth watching to me really..
Maddy thanks for having the courage to call a spade a spade. The way these CVs have shown these characters is pathetic and no amount of cursing them seems to make a dent. I am sure they are patting themselves on the back and saying "Heheehe ... we have done a fine job of trashing the great characters of history. What a fine bunch we are!"Mansi, thanks for the episode wu. Hope you are perfectly fine now. š
As you know I am not watching JA since last week. I was wondering if I will get enough detachment that can watch Ruk and get past how Jalal mis-treated Jodha for 3 years - so after EHT ended yesterday, I turned to zee and happened to see the precap - where again Ruk was saying she will participate with Salim but Jodha has to stay away. I realized it was for MB after reading your episode wu.
Honestly when I saw Ruk face and her putting condition to keep Jodha away from HER OWN SON again and Jalal look at Ruk indulgently - if anything I felt MORE REPULSED BY Ruk and Jalal than even before.
I just thought this man tells Jodha he loves her he can't stay without her and he dumps her when things get tough. This CVs coward spineless Jalal had no guts to accuse Ruk - what would have happened if Zeenat had not managed to get to Hussain that night as Ruk would have taken him back in the morning - did this brainless moron think this? What was zeenat doing in Jodha's hojara did this coward have guts to ask Ruk?
So Ruk THE Bš¤¬š¤¬š¤¬H got away by faking pregnancy, by being the reason Zeenat got access to twins so easily and at her 𤬠behavior with Jodha after Hassan.
While Jalal the coward spineless rambo went off wielding sword butchering thousands and punished the real grieving mother and treated her worst than a bandi - not even acknowledging her pranams in front of others - what a lover!!!
He is not even a fit father or husband - who did not care or love his own twins more than this scheming vile Ruk. There was no justice to HH cos Jalal never punished Ruk but punished the innocent mother of HH.
If CVs think showing him wielding sword is very manly emperor like - in my eyes he is a spineless coward who has not guts to even stand upto Ruk, who did not care for justice to HH by not punishing Ruk, who did not stand by the woman he said to love for 3-1/2 years treating her worst than dirt, who let Ruk accuse Jodha of eating her own kids while he stood around like a bufoon.
If there is anything less manly than this Jalal I don't know who is? He is a spineless coward - not good lover to Jodha, not good father to HH, not good husband to Jodha. The only person Jalal has ever stood for is Ruk
Yuck Jalal š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
Ruk š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
Jodha š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬ šššššššššš the doormat is getting dirtier it seems cos probably everybody in Agra has wiped their feet off her - self respect? She would not understand what it means
JA is DEAD and forget epic this is not even ordinary love story this is pure garbage.
I wonder how long you will be able to go on with your thread every morning?!
Originally posted by: skanda12
Maddy thanks for having the courage to call a spade a spade. The way these CVs have shown these characters is pathetic and no amount of cursing them seems to make a dent. I am sure they are patting themselves on the back and saying "Heheehe ... we have done a fine job of trashing the great characters of history. What a fine bunch we are!"
As for continuing my thread, I might stop soon. Everyday its getting more difficult to pretend there is something left in the serial. I think I'll do this week max, and then I'll be gravitating to Ashoka forum if that is decent and there's a good actor.
Originally posted by: chennaigirl
I have overcome the addiction to this show..Its just another show..I don't care what they do in JA..Just watch it and change it if Ruk comes on screen..Its not really worth watching to me really..
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Dont forget that he separated his twins on ruqs request(no father on this would do so even god said :Ruq word is more powerful than gods'.)but by knowing that loosing of babies due to his and ruq fault he put the blame on jodhaš” who wanted to make him comfort.how much he insulted her indirectly because of her romance he lost his babies.(I was shocked to see,how much he was rude to say that"i asked you to go but it was you became stubborn and wanted spend nite. jalal is such a coward jerkš”
We still get to c the JJ little tiny winne kind love relationship of JJ after becoming a parents. Salim is very cute his blabbering in front of Jalal when Jalal caught him saying His father is scared of him" aww that was cute n as well Jalal quietly listening to him n his reaction was good.š³
He coax Salim to c Jo n teaches him to pacify her but get caught. Jalal trying to hide n putting his head down when get caught was very cutie. Same like Papa & Son get caught n Jodha forgives Salim. I thought at that scene Jalal could have hug the 2 tighter to show his happiness of his family. That would have been nice family huggies wouldn't it. Cis Y CV don't think of such nice scene...
Ruqs is a real dumb queen. She wants to take Salim n leave Jodha. She can exert he rights on Salim just like that. Jalal is keeping quite?? Jo is feeling sad for her but she takes advantage. Silly queen isn't she. Jodha is shocked n Jalal as usual blank look like don't know wat to do when it come to Ruqs & Jodha logger head. Uff don't know how to react.
I thing I notice at the meena bazzr annoucement, all the kids with their mother. Ja had slept with all to get 1 child each!!! Salima they never even hugged for once like Ruqs & Ja but she stills agree to spent the night with Ja n get Murad. It's nothing wrong their all his wives. If it is so than Y show Ja & Sal r/ship base on respect only his KB. Moreover Y contradict Ja statement he will not go to another woman N Jo will kill him. Jo accept SB & Ja R/ship so easily. When did all these happen 3 yr war, more than a year SC n Salim birth
Originally posted by: sweet_diksha
good take Mansi...i ll post same thing i wrote to u two days back...
like i said , Murad was conceived after Salim was born... and he was
born 10 months after salim... and still he is said to be premature
baby... means he was born in 7th or 8th months... so when he was
conceived salim will be 2/3 mths old
now Jalal himself saw Salim
when Salim was one and half mths old... so when Murad was conceived, Jo
was already back in palace with Jalal...
so may be that time
like u said Jo herself must have sent Jalal to go to salima and try for
one more kid which ll fill loneliness of salima after rahim went away...
..basically
when he married salima first it was to provide her security... but when
it was clear that ruku won't be able to give him heir, everybody's
choice might be Salima being of same dynesty... and so whether both Jalal and Salima wanted or
not ,they might have shared physical relationship... but even that
didn't work...
and then Jalal got his first kids with Jo, their twins...<font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000">later
they got their first daughter who was stillborn... and then Jalal
prayed to chisti and went to ajmer sharif all walking and chisti blessed
him to have 3 sons ... and then Jo conceived salim... so Jalal thought
it's coz of Chisti's blessing , and so he sent Jo to ashram, but he was
not staying there all those mths... only sometimes went to meet her..</font></font></b>and it's not wrong, afterall he had to run his vast kingdom.
<font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000">but one
thing, Jalal might be in relationship with Salima when Jo was staying in
Chisti ashram... coz all those mths she was alone there... Jalal used
to visit her there but he hasn't stayed there... and all those days he
certainly hadn't been celibate... </font></font><b>
<font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000">
now
his first daughter Khannam was said to born 45 days to 90 days after
salim's birth... so let's be sure... Jalal was sleeping around with
other woman also, when Jo was not with him...
</font></font>
<font size="2">Mansi,
think... though he knew he was going to have his heir, still he had many
enemies, and there was constant fear of losing the kids... and so many
times these kings were sleeping with diff women, and may be few of them
were getting preg... but not all the babies were raised in palace...
some of them were even raise outside at some safe place without
declaring their true identity... so if the rightful legal heir is lost,
the next one should be there safe...</font>
i feel, same way even after
Salim was born, Jalal had some relation with some concubine, who
conceived Murad... frankly, nowhere it's clearly mentioned that salima
gave birth to Murad... but yes, they say she was his parent...his birth
mother's name is not clearly mentioned anywhere...
so may be even
Jo can be Murad's real mother... but to keep him safe from enemies
Jalal might have given him to salima as only's Jo's kid was supposed to
be future king as per Chistibaba's prophecy Jo only was to become MUZ... ( though i don't believe in these prophecy and all, but one thought is there that while marrying Jo , he might have promised Bharmal or Jo herself that her child will become next Shehenshah, but after death of twins, there might be a thought that his enemies might harm Jo and her babies and so her babies given to other begums... but this is just my thought)... and so the kid with Salima will be always safe and if
anything happens to salim, then Jo's another kid , which was with salima
will be next heir to throne... but this thing would have been kept
secret... and so there is no clear mention abt Murad's mother...
and
regards Jalal Salima relationship, then they can show that Jalal goes
to salima's room but didn't actually have any physical relationship with
her... they just shared the room not actually slept together...
nobody knows the actual history... we can only guess...
more things i ll write later...
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