Oh Lord, another Meena Bazaar? With Ruq trying to eke out Jodha?-DTPg6 - Page 5

Originally posted by: member

Mansi, thanks for the episode wu. Hope you are perfectly fine now. 😃

As you know I am not watching JA since last week. I was wondering if I will get enough detachment that can watch Ruk and get past how Jalal mis-treated Jodha for 3 years - so after EHT ended yesterday, I turned to zee and happened to see the precap - where again Ruk was saying she will participate with Salim but Jodha has to stay away. I realized it was for MB after reading your episode wu.


Honestly when I saw Ruk face and her putting condition to keep Jodha away from HER OWN SON again and Jalal look at Ruk indulgently - if anything I felt MORE REPULSED BY Ruk and Jalal than even before.


I just thought this man tells Jodha he loves her he can't stay without her and he dumps her when things get tough. This CVs coward spineless Jalal had no guts to accuse Ruk - what would have happened if Zeenat had not managed to get to Hussain that night as Ruk would have taken him back in the morning - did this brainless moron think this? What was zeenat doing in Jodha's hojara did this coward have guts to ask Ruk?

So Ruk THE B🤬🤬🤬H got away by faking pregnancy, by being the reason Zeenat got access to twins so easily and at her 🤬 behavior with Jodha after Hassan.

While Jalal the coward spineless rambo went off wielding sword butchering thousands and punished the real grieving mother and treated her worst than a bandi - not even acknowledging her pranams in front of others - what a lover!!!

He is not even a fit father or husband - who did not care or love his own twins more than this scheming vile Ruk. There was no justice to HH cos Jalal never punished Ruk but punished the innocent mother of HH.


If CVs think showing him wielding sword is very manly emperor like - in my eyes he is a spineless coward who has not guts to even stand upto Ruk, who did not care for justice to HH by not punishing Ruk, who did not stand by the woman he said to love for 3-1/2 years treating her worst than dirt, who let Ruk accuse Jodha of eating her own kids while he stood around like a bufoon.

If there is anything less manly than this Jalal I don't know who is? He is a spineless coward - not good lover to Jodha, not good father to HH, not good husband to Jodha. The only person Jalal has ever stood for is Ruk

Yuck Jalal 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Ruk 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Jodha 🤬🤬🤬 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 the doormat is getting dirtier it seems cos probably everybody in Agra has wiped their feet off her - self respect? She would not understand what it means


JA is DEAD and forget epic this is not even ordinary love story this is pure garbage.

I wonder how long you will be able to go on with your thread every morning?!

Originally posted by: ---jais---

You know what diksha, you have given totally different thought. And somehow i am agree with that.

Originally posted by: sangreal

hello mansi, good to see you back.
i think that you came out of this fever renewed. your rhett butler quote says it all.
its time for us all to sit back and enjoy, just what everyone wants to enjoy. its meanigless to deal with the insanity of our dear CVs, be it ruks downfall which never came, or why was jodha punished for Hu death, or who murads mother is( the whole time they showed jalal as a one woman man, and all of a sudden he has relations with other wives,-- of course he does, but this they should have made it clear from the beginning. obviously they failed to portray such a delicate matter as polygamy)
so chill people and enjoy and i think mansi you got the point and stepped up to another level.
take care
irene

Originally posted by: deejagi

Hi Mansi, Good to see you back with a bang by giving the update. Anyways, thanks for the SMS updates while you were still sick.

Mansi please don't take it too hard on you about how could Jalal still love Jodha when he sleeps around with every lady available. See LOVE is an eternal thing which bonds 2 hearts while whatever Jalal did with others was just fulfilling his duty as an husband. He can not leave all his wives hungry just because he found he loved only one of his wife. And even other are OK with it as long as they get their share of his life.

And about Murad born only after Salim's birth, why should it bother us so much whether he was born before or after Salim. It is as simple as that he is Jalal's son. Salima Begum is not some person Jalal can use when he was in distress and discord the moment his wavelength is restored with Jodha Begum. If he had found peace with Salima then, how can he stop going to her all of a sudden and also when Salim was born, Jodha would have been not available for him for quite some time and during that period, he had spent with Salima Begum and may be even with some of his other Begums. And by then he was totally grown up and healthy and would have had some more kids from his other Begums.

Coming Khaniz, I don't think we should think that all thos eKhaniz who have kids were supposed to be Jalal's kids. They need not have to be. It is that he had given opportunity for all the mothers and that's it. Have we not seen earlier, even Javeeda used to take part in Meena Bazar. She was not Jalal's wife. So likewise even now, he has just given an open platform for all the mothers to so their bond with their kids.

Originally posted by: hely

m sure jalal who always consider about his first cousine bachpan ki dosts happiness, will agree to Ruqs request,joda innocent and always think about others emotions never refuse and she never learn that ruq tries to make her fool.

Dont forget that he separated his twins on ruqs request(no father on this would do so even god said :Ruq word is more powerful than gods'.)but by knowing that loosing of babies due to his and ruq fault he put the blame on jodha😡 who wanted to make him comfort.how much he insulted her indirectly because of her romance he lost his babies.(I was shocked to see,how much he was rude to say that"i asked you to go but it was you became stubborn and wanted spend nite. jalal is such a coward jerk😡

We still get to c the JJ little tiny winne kind love relationship of JJ after becoming a parents. Salim is very cute his blabbering in front of Jalal when Jalal caught him saying His father is scared of him" aww that was cute n as well Jalal quietly listening to him n his reaction was good.😳
He coax Salim to c Jo n teaches him to pacify her but get caught. Jalal trying to hide n putting his head down when get caught was very cutie. Same like Papa & Son get caught n Jodha forgives Salim. I thought at that scene Jalal could have hug the 2 tighter to show his happiness of his family. That would have been nice family huggies wouldn't it. Cis Y CV don't think of such nice scene...

Ruqs is a real dumb queen. She wants to take Salim n leave Jodha. She can exert he rights on Salim just like that. Jalal is keeping quite?? Jo is feeling sad for her but she takes advantage. Silly queen isn't she. Jodha is shocked n Jalal as usual blank look like don't know wat to do when it come to Ruqs & Jodha logger head. Uff don't know how to react.

I thing I notice at the meena bazzr annoucement, all the kids with their mother. Ja had slept with all to get 1 child each!!! Salima they never even hugged for once like Ruqs & Ja but she stills agree to spent the night with Ja n get Murad. It's nothing wrong their all his wives. If it is so than Y show Ja & Sal r/ship base on respect only his KB. Moreover Y contradict Ja statement he will not go to another woman N Jo will kill him. Jo accept SB & Ja R/ship so easily. When did all these happen 3 yr war, more than a year SC n Salim birth

jodha will give up and ruq will participate in meenabazar with salim..punishment to dene se raha..but i want to know will jalal ever stop ruqu..??nah he cant...🤢 as always cvs will show jodha dumb,stupid n weak in front of ruqu so she will agree with ruqu n will not participate in meena bazar...😔n ruq will with salim...😒after this jalal will also agree..coz he cant say anything against ruqu's wish .finally ruqu has started her ploy to distance salim from jodha...😭😭soon she will be successful then MU btw jodha jalal n salim jodha...

In short all characters are butchered already and all we have left is an empty story fast dwindling in interest and believability!

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

good take Mansi...i ll post same thing i wrote to u two days back...


like i said , Murad was conceived after Salim was born... and he was born 10 months after salim... and still he is said to be premature baby... means he was born in 7th or 8th months... so when he was conceived salim will be 2/3 mths old

now Jalal himself saw Salim when Salim was one and half mths old... so when Murad was conceived, Jo was already back in palace with Jalal...

so may be that time like u said Jo herself must have sent Jalal to go to salima and try for one more kid which ll fill loneliness of salima after rahim went away...

..basically when he married salima first it was to provide her security... but when it was clear that ruku won't be able to give him heir, everybody's choice might be Salima being of same dynesty... and so whether both Jalal and Salima wanted or not ,they might have shared physical relationship... but even that didn't work...

and then Jalal got his first kids with Jo, their twins...later they got their first daughter who was stillborn... and then Jalal prayed to chisti and went to ajmer sharif all walking and chisti blessed him to have 3 sons ... and then Jo conceived salim... so Jalal thought it's coz of Chisti's blessing , and so he sent Jo to ashram, but he was not staying there all those mths... only sometimes went to meet her..and it's not wrong, afterall he had to run his vast kingdom.

but one thing, Jalal might be in relationship with Salima when Jo was staying in Chisti ashram... coz all those mths she was alone there... Jalal used to visit her there but he hasn't stayed there... and all those days he certainly hadn't been celibate...

now his first daughter Khannam was said to born 45 days to 90 days after salim's birth... so let's be sure... Jalal was sleeping around with other woman also, when Jo was not with him...

Mansi, think... though he knew he was going to have his heir, still he had many enemies, and there was constant fear of losing the kids... and so many times these kings were sleeping with diff women, and may be few of them were getting preg... but not all the babies were raised in palace... some of them were even raise outside at some safe place without declaring their true identity... so if the rightful legal heir is lost, the next one should be there safe...

i feel, same way even after Salim was born, Jalal had some relation with some concubine, who conceived Murad... frankly, nowhere it's clearly mentioned that salima gave birth to Murad... but yes, they say she was his parent...his birth mother's name is not clearly mentioned anywhere...

so may be even Jo can be Murad's real mother... but to keep him safe from enemies Jalal might have given him to salima as only's Jo's kid was supposed to be future king as per Chistibaba's prophecy Jo only was to become MUZ... ( though i don't believe in these prophecy and all, but one thought is there that while marrying Jo , he might have promised Bharmal or Jo herself that her child will become next Shehenshah, but after death of twins, there might be a thought that his enemies might harm Jo and her babies and so her babies given to other begums... but this is just my thought)... and so the kid with Salima will be always safe and if anything happens to salim, then Jo's another kid , which was with salima will be next heir to throne... but this thing would have been kept secret... and so there is no clear mention abt Murad's mother...

and regards Jalal Salima relationship, then they can show that Jalal goes to salima's room but didn't actually have any physical relationship with her... they just shared the room not actually slept together...

nobody knows the actual history... we can only guess...

more things i ll write later...

Originally posted by: Abie10

Mansi, great that you are better now. 😃

I seriously don't know what this show has come to. But I've stopped connecting to the characters long ago maybe that's what's helping me move on and watch anything that's dished out in those 25/30 mins and then move on.

I see people getting mad at Jalal for not standing for Jo when it comes to Ruq, but am mad at both Jo-Jalal. If Jalal isn't standing for Jo, then she can stand for herself. Jo isn't a weak character... We've seen her fighting justice for others even when it means to go against Jalal then why can't she fight for her own self?