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Posted: 10 years ago
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well anchal i have recieved ur pm but ur inbox is full so i wanted to mention tht my sister is an history student and the syllabus approved by indian govt mentions tht salima begum was mother of prince murad she had a daughter too ! dunno about rest of the state but its atleast approved in my place
sorry for cluttering ur topic !
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=N7sewQQzOHUC&pg=PA35&dq=murad+was+born+in+ajmer&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WdxTVIiXNoLMmwXvn4HABw&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=murad%20was%20born%20in%20ajmer&f=false

plz have a look it says tht prince daniyal was born in ajmer
i have read in a book ( sorry i cant recall the name right now )tht after the birth of salim akbar developed faith in salim chisti and everytime his wife be pregnant he sent his wife to salim chisti for the blessing ! if it salim chisti dignosed tht baby as boy the wife was kept there and the delivery took there thts why all the three sons were born in ajmer !




Wat link was this? It was written akbar married manmati daughter of bhagawandas ðŸĪĢ ðŸĪĢ abhay isn't manmati jahangir wife 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wat link was this? It was written akbar married manmati daughter of bhagawandas ðŸĪĢ ðŸĪĢ abhay isn't manmati jahangir wife 😕


have u read this the point is weather murad is salima begum son or not !
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=vyVW0STaGBcC&pg=PT220&dq=akbar+sent+salima+begum+to+ajmer&hl=en&sa=X&ei=k9JTVP_hBqPNmwXGwgI&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=akbar%20sent%20salima%20begum%20to%20ajmer&f=false


the biggest controversy revolves around jodha.ðŸ˜ģ ..coz there are lots of controversy regarding princess jodha historian believe tht jodha or jodh bai was daughter in law of akbar ... isnt it ! ðŸ˜ģ

having said tht neither of us was born in tht era ! ðŸĪŠ

sorry aanchal i literally cluttered ur post sorry ! 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07



have u read this the point is weather murad is salima begum son or not !
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=vyVW0STaGBcC&pg=PT220&dq=akbar+sent+salima+begum+to+ajmer&hl=en&sa=X&ei=k9JTVP_hBqPNmwXGwgI&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=akbar%20sent%20salima%20begum%20to%20ajmer&f=false


the biggest controversy revolves around jodha.ðŸ˜ģ..coz there are lots of controversy regarding princess jodha historian believe tht jodha or jodh bai was daughter in law of akbar ... isnt it !ðŸ˜ģ

having said tht neither of us was born in tht era ! ðŸĪŠ


sorry aanchal i literally cluttered ur post sorry !😊



😆 that akbar married manmati is enuf to trust how much it's not authentic... When the writer or whoever is in confusion n wrote not knwing abt Jodha and manmati wat to beleive abt this article ... Jodh bai is daughter in law of akbar n here it mentioned wife of akbar ðŸĪŠ well Abhay aanchal I guess provided link which state that Jodha is mother of daniyal and murad...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv



Wat link was this? It was written akbar married manmati daughter of bhagawandas ðŸĪĢ ðŸĪĢ abhay isn't manmati jahangir wife 😕




Bhawna, You are right.


BTW, @bold... This is interesting. :D

In those times, If i am not wrong, then we could not "diagnose" before the birth that the kid is going to be a girl or a boy.😉

And, Salim Chisti stayed in Agra(now in Uttar Pradesh) not Ajmer(now in Rajasthan). Sorry for a bit of Geography.. 😉

And, hence ALL 3 sons can not be born in Ajmer, and we know who was born where. Don't we.?.

Of course we were not present in that era, but saying this we can not discount EVERYTHING. 😉


As i said to Aanchal, nothing to debate here, kehne ke liye kuch bacha hi nahi hai.. :D


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Bhawna, You are right.


BTW, @bold... This is interesting. :D

In those times, If i am not wrong, then we could not "diagnose" before the birth that the kid is going to be a girl or a boy.😉

And, Salim Chisti stayed in Agra(now in Uttar Pradesh) not Ajmer(now in Rajasthan). Sorry for a bit of Geography.. 😉

And, hence ALL 3 sons can not be born in Ajmer, and we know who was born where. Don't we.?.

Of course we were not present in that era, but saying this we can not discount EVERYTHING. 😉


As i said to Aanchal, nothing to debate here, kehne ke liye kuch bacha hi nahi hai.. :D




Thanks abhay for clearing my doubt... 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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why blame zee? they r not writing the show!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek




Bhawna, You are right.


BTW, @bold... This is interesting. :D

In those times, If i am not wrong, then we could not "diagnose" before the birth that the kid is going to be a girl or a boy.😉


And, Salim Chisti stayed in Agra(now in Uttar Pradesh) not Ajmer(now in Rajasthan). Sorry for a bit of Geography.. 😉

And, hence ALL 3 sons can not be born in Ajmer, and we know who was born where. Don't we.?.

Of course we were not present in that era, but saying this we can not discount EVERYTHING. 😉


As i said to Aanchal, nothing to debate here, kehne ke liye kuch bacha hi nahi hai.. :D


well in that case how did the salim chisti made the prophecy tht mughal emperor will have a son wen mughal emperor visited him bare foot ! he made tht prophecy or is it false too ???😆 i dunno where salim chisti resided ! ðŸ˜ģ

i already mentioned tht i am not a historian nor a history student i shared waterver i read with the links...moreover the syllabus do mention tht prince murad was born to salima begum as i said my sister is a history student not me i just wanted to say wat is the use to chide zee wen the syllabus in some university do mention tht murad was salima begum;s son how can u rule out tht possibility ! who said tht salima was childless???? any solid proof ?????
i just came to inquire about aram aara if she exists according to some revered historians out here ( my bad luck !😆

i still do believe none of us were born in tht era ...still jodha bai claim on mariam uz zamani is controversial !

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

lekin Radhika how can they change the mother altogether???
how many proofs Aanchal and others posted to verify this? we common people know this but JA researchers dont?? one version of Jahangirnaama padhke pura NR banadiya????
what about the other version where it was written Murad was born from a concubine?
they didnt come across this? if they, didnt they dig more to know what is the truth?? u dont even need to work hard to know it! this is the mother of NR this time.
I am disgusted!!!


Tamy

Didn't you see Abhay's comment that Zee's replies to questions about the show clearly showed that they had lifted the contents from Wikipedia?

Why will they work hard to learn the truth or show it when they know that the audience doesn't know history but only wants a great story with royals in it?

See everyone feels hurt by some NR or the other. You feel hurt now. Abhay felt hurt by the Chittor NR. RIma feels hurt by the taxes NR. I feel hurt about Jodha being used like a ping pong ball. But we are a minority.

The majority audience doesn't know and ignorance is bliss.

NR btw was always present but its degree is increasing and now its mostly NR with very little truth. 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07

well in that case how did the salim chisti made the prophecy tht mughal emperor will have a son wen mughal emperor visited him bare foot ! he made tht prophecy or is it false too ???😆 i dunno where salim chisti resided ! ðŸ˜ģ

i already mentioned tht i am not a historian nor a history student i shared waterver i read with the links...moreover the syllabus do mention tht prince murad was born to salima begum as i said my sister is a history student not me i just wanted to say wat is the use to chide zee wen the syllabus in some university do mention tht murad was salima begum;s son how can u rule out tht possibility ! who said tht salima was childless???? any solid proof ?????
i just came to inquire about aram aara if she exists according to some revered historians out here ( my bad luck !😆

i still do believe none of us were born in tht era ...still jodha bai claim on mariam uz zamani is controversial !


YES THERE IS PROOF THAT SALIMA WAS CHILDLESS...


PLZ READ THESE.

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