War winds blow ... but Jalal's real enemy is God! - Page 10

Originally posted by: skanda12

Charu, the parts I have marked in blue are so perfect they are touching me to the core! Beautiful!

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

You have presented a well-thought-out and realistic analysis of the current scenario at Agra .

Excellent write-up Mansi .

I believe that the bloody aftermath of the war will be instrumental in bringing about a change in Jalal's thinking . At the risk of sounding repetitive I will still maintain my thoughts from yesterday , that in spite of releasing his pent up frustrations with his brutality , Jalal will realize that calling for war and massacring thousands of innocents will not bring his lost babies back .

Jodha's words to him prior to war will haunt him . Not only the sight of the dead bodies but also the plight of the hundreds of war widows , children and their helpless families will refresh his mind of his own grief and the misery that he has caused these hundreds .

The after effects of this war will contribute towards the spiritual growth of Jallaluddin Mohammad . I am hoping to see him realize and accept that there is a hidden power that executes and controls everything that happens in ones' lives and that is the power of KUDA . He will realize that neither he himself nor Jodha or their love is responsible in anyway for the death of their babies . This realization will renew his belief in the Almighty .

I do not wish to predict anything about the future of their relationship Mansi , because whenever I do so , I notice that the straight opposite happens . I only wish to see TRUE repentance from Jalal towards Jodha . I feel that he has taken her presence in his life and her love for granted . He needs to make honest heartfelt amends for blaming her love towards him to be the reason for the babies death . Jodha should not be shown as easily forgiving. She should make him realize that love does not indulge in playing the blame game and in senseless brutality . He should understand the pain that she has silently withstood for not only losing her babies but more so for being accused and blamed by him .

Charu .

Originally posted by: skanda12

Gem, you're on the way already to seeing things from a different perspective!

Originally posted by: skanda12

Sindhu, I was waiting for your comments!

I see your point about Jalal's dialogues to God being over the top somewhat, but to me it felt OK because in real life he may have not said it out, he may have felt all that, but in a drama he has to say the dialogues out so that the audience understands how he is feeling. hence I was prepared to accept his dialogues as his angry "feelings" being expressed for the sake of dramatic effect.

And yes, Jodha has to be firm but fair. It's a tough ask to be the important wife of an important man. Everything you do is under scrutiny and she has to tread such a fine line now between supporting Jalal and yet not supporting what he is doing!

I hope your wishes for Salim Chishti's intervention come true. I am sure they will because Salim was named after Salim Chisti only!

I just don't get it Jalal taking out his anger,grief on the R'vshi. The dialogue n reasoning give by the CV really doesn't make sense. To a certain extend can accept he become heartless/hardener his after losing his sons but his personal reason for this war is so cheap👎🏼,

lame n degrading n unacceptable.🤓cvs r showing as if jalal has gone for war just to take personal,revenge from god👏,they could have shown it in a way as time went by but some raajvansis who were helped by few mugals who were jalal enimies,went against jalal and eventualy he had to fight brutally,at least they cn stop adding the dialogue were jalal accuses so called raajvansis for the death of his infants,and...cvs have proven many times that they dont hv history knowledge bt in this track they hv gone one step ahead and proved they dont hv common sense,and thy lack correct choice of lines as well.

I request make up artist to restrict d amount of soot in jalal eyes,more than scary... it looks black commandos

Ruks behaves like a person high on crack cocaine - Hukka bgm wondering if someone is lacing hukka with crack..Rukaya is never penalized for her mistakes by Jalal.😡

Waiting to see his action in the war on Monday. To c How brutal he is going to be..?😳I totally don't understand what is the fault of the rajwansi on the death of the twins.😕

How n when his realization gonna come. 😕

How will he pacify Jodha after calling her responsible for HH death🤔. Will she allow him even to touch her after his accusation😡, she will be reminded of that pain when he wants be close with. What will it take for her to get rid of it.😒

JO is right, Moghul or R'vshi win she is at the loss😭. she will or i will say she should be withdraw herself when she see Jalal hands fully blood, same like Adham death epi. 🤢

.i dont want to see jo's pregnancy track again..m bored..n if she would be pregnant then jalal will become insaan from janwar just for baby not for jodha..like he only wants baby from jodha n jo is only baby producing machine or toy jb chaha use kiya or jb man kiya fek diya nothing else..😡🤢then it will be cleared dt jalal never loved jodha..or doesnt love her anymore..i really dont want this to be happen plz cvs😡

What jodha can bear more?🤢 Children death or husband's ruthlessness or rukaya"s plans, Jalal forgot totally his promise to her😡, to not cause pain for her again. But we saw only sorrow and sadness in her eyes😭. Jodha !! leave for Amer, that's enough no one deserves your golden heart!!bt the question is..will jo forgive jalal or not...she should not forgive jalal n keep away her self from jalal... atleast sake of her self respect plz Jo u will have to show ur ghrina.for jalal.already cvs butchered her character completely she is like dooemate for cvs🤢

Originally posted by: hely

amazing post beautifully write up!!!Esp abt Jalal...
bt still m angry with jalal..m in ghrina mode...
jalal an obnoxious emotional fool,a deprived father that is too afraid to talk and let go of the past,a lost ruthless animal with no sense of a brain compared to what it should be...

I just don't get it Jalal taking out his anger,grief on the R'vshi. The dialogue n reasoning give by the CV really doesn't make sense. To a certain extend can accept he become heartless/hardener his after losing his sons but his personal reason for this war is so cheap👎🏼,

lame n degrading n unacceptable.🤓cvs r showing as if jalal has gone for war just to take personal,revenge from god👏,they could have shown it in a way as time went by but some raajvansis who were helped by few mugals who were jalal enimies,went against jalal and eventualy he had to fight brutally,at least they cn stop adding the dialogue were jalal accuses so called raajvansis for the death of his infants,and...cvs have proven many times that they dont hv history knowledge bt in this track they hv gone one step ahead and proved they dont hv common sense,and thy lack correct choice of lines as well.

I request make up artist to restrict d amount of soot in jalal eyes,more than scary... it looks black commandos

Ruks behaves like a person high on crack cocaine - Hukka bgm wondering if someone is lacing hukka with crack..Rukaya is never penalized for her mistakes by Jalal.😡

Waiting to see his action in the war on Monday. To c How brutal he is going to be..?😳I totally don't understand what is the fault of the rajwansi on the death of the twins.😕

How n when his realization gonna come. 😕

How will he pacify Jodha after calling her responsible for HH death🤔. Will she allow him even to touch her after his accusation😡, she will be reminded of that pain when he wants be close with. What will it take for her to get rid of it.😒

JO is right, Moghul or R'vshi win she is at the loss😭. she will or i will say she should be withdraw herself when she see Jalal hands fully blood, same like Adham death epi. 🤢

.i dont want to see jo's pregnancy track again..m bored..n if she would be pregnant then jalal will become insaan from janwar just for baby not for jodha..like he only wants baby from jodha n jo is only baby producing machine or toy jb chaha use kiya or jb man kiya fek diya nothing else..😡🤢then it will be cleared dt jalal never loved jodha..or doesnt love her anymore..i really dont want this to be happen plz cvs😡

What jodha can bear more?🤢 Children death or husband's ruthlessness or rukaya"s plans, Jalal forgot totally his promise to her😡, to not cause pain for her again. But we saw only sorrow and sadness in her eyes😭. Jodha !! leave for Amer, that's enough no one deserves your golden heart!!bt the question is..will jo forgive jalal or not...she should not forgive jalal n keep away her self from jalal... atleast sake of her self respect plz Jo u will have to show ur ghrina.for jalal.already cvs butchered her character completely she is like dooemate for cvs🤢

Originally posted by: tamy267

Mansi, u gave the most beautiful explanation of yesterday's episode esp. Jalal's anger with God scene.👏❤️

u know some events in life cannot be explained...they r beyond explanations, justifications and all the "tions"...right now Jalal's action is the one...he is not in senses..he lost faith in God and trying to prove he can do anything..."u didnt do anything when my sons were dying, I will kill your bande to have ultimate peace"...this is insanity...kitna khafa hai woh ke apne Khuda ko challenge karraha hai? he waged this war for his personal loss?! millions will die so that Shehenshah can have dil ka sukoon...?! and he is not in a state to understand ethics at this moment...he is doing everything which is vicious and hateful.

he will get over it very soon...when he will be tired shedding his enemy's blood, he will look around and only will find blood-stained corpses all over...then he will realize the fight he is leading has no sense..it is certainly not giving him peace which he is looking for but increasing his pain, he wanted to laugh seeing the corpses but its making him more restless an driving him insane...there cant be any fight with God...God is above everything..life n death r in His hands..aur unki marzi ke bina kuch nahi hota..he will realize it...he will become spiritual then...but at that time the damage is already done..millions of people lost their lives.

Jodha is in the most helpless state...she did her best to stop the war, to stop Jalal from doing something very wrong...but she failed..first she lost her sons and now his husband behaving like a maniac making her feel worst...I dont know how will she react when Jalal will get back his senses and come back to her...will she accept him? or will she reject him?

I want a spiritual journey of JJ after this war...yes, 3 years haven't passed...some days passed only.

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

E X C E L L E N T thoughts Tamy .

This war will be instrumental in bringing about a spiritual rebirth in Jalal . Jodha's powerless state in being unable to influence his decision of going to war , itself be beneficial in changing him as a person, a king , a son and as a husband . Had he not witnessed the effects of his brutality , he would never think differently .

I wish that the Creatives do not show Jodha as pregnant right away. I want Jalal to realize that he should have SHARED his grief with her , he should have supported her emotionally in the same way that she held him protectively and gave him the necessary strength after the "takht" burning following Adham's death . I want to see him mature emotionally pertaining to his relationship with Jodha . He should be shown as being remorseful in blaming her love as the reason for Hussein's death . He should realize that his accusation has hurt her more than the death of the twins itself . He should understand that love creates, love heals , love forgives , and that love never destroys.

I hesitate to wish for or predict anything positive because the straight opposite happens . Lets hope for the best progress in the story line .

Charu .

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Thanks Mansi for the lovely update.

At this difficult times I can understand JJ being angry with God but what I cannot still understand is the Akbar's dialogues to God. I can understand his sadness, anger, frustration , staying away from God but one of the reasons to wage a war is to show his power by killing people as a revenge to God because he took away his twins. I cannot accept this.

Jodha was concerned for both Rajwanshi and Mughals. She was particularly upset with this war because she knew this is going to leave a black mark for her husband. Also being a loyal and true wife does not mean that you stay and support your husband even if he is wrong. In the end even if she objects or argues she will stand by him, but at the same time as a wife she has every rights to tell her husband her opinion. Jalal is shehenshah but for Jodha he is her husband and as a human being both Jalal and Jodha are not perfect. To me only one person is infallible and that is God.

as of now easy reconciliation is only if somehow Jalal gets hurt and Jodha takes care of him. I also hope JO is not pregnant. I did read your comments in a earlier post with respect to JO's pregnancy, but I hoped to see JJ going to Salim Christi and then Salim happens.