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Posted: 10 years ago
Mansi your our post was really very positive even if the episode was just ok ! ...you have explained the meaning of jodha's words brilliantly as the cv's had given too much stress upon her being soft towards rajvanshi's and only at the end it was clarified that Jodha was generally against the futility of war ...many ppl might have felt that she was worried about the war fearing about the tragic plight of rajvanshi's but actually I think that she was not in favour of waging a war coz war only leads to mass destruction and even if the Mughals had a different enemy she would have opposed the war... in the past she had explained to maan singh to continue to fight against the enemy of Mughals ...the cv's can confuse us many times such as they had not given a specific fact to show if only a few weeks had passed after hussein's death ...the dialogues of Jodha could have been more clear without saying much about rajvanshis ...but what can we do ? ...Jodha was very good in her scenes and it is sad to see that Jalal was so rude to her ...when will they be reunited ? ...Jodha could sense that Jalal was in a destructive frame of mind and he was desperate to shed the blood in a savage way ...Jodha was very mature in understanding the sensitive matter where as Jalal was just the opposite ! ...even Jodha had lost her sons like Jalal but she was in control ...it was good that the focus was upon Jodha instead of giving too much screen space to other side characters and as expected maybe due to vacation Rajat had few scenes ...the Salima hb scene was introduced to indicate that Jodha will be able to reform jalal very soon ...raja Bharmal was asked to hold the fort at Agra and I think that he will just sit idle as war shall be over very soon ...shooting war scenes is a costly affair and therefore it can be fast forwarded to end it speedily ...the cardboard cannons and the machinery looked so fake ! ...Jalal looked menacing and he had motivated everyone soundly to just thrash the enemy ! ...his makeup was bad but by his acting he can deliver any scene perfectly ...he was angry with God and he is not aware that he will not have the last laugh as he was hoping ! ...I am waiting to watch how cv's shall show his remorse at the end ! ...his belief in God will be restored very soon and maybe he will sense his misplaced anger after witnessing the massacre ...it is difficult to predict about the future episodes but it will be a treat to watch the spiritual journey of Jalal! ...will Jodha be shown as pregnant if only a few weeks have gone by ? ...then I think that jalal's rage can be somewhat understood ... Ruqu 's exposure has been sidelined and Jodha has been blamed by Jalal ...so cv's are efficient in giving us unpleasant surprises ! . Let us see how they depict the war on Monday !
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Posted: 10 years ago
Nice take Mansi 👏👏 ... I too thought the same when I saw Pratap .. finally he got a new dress to wear ..😆😆

Coming to the episode , yup it was a filler .. more of setting a stage for the war where Jalal is all ready for the brutal conquer whereas Jodha feels helpless as both sides she will b defeated in the end ..

Though I understand that Jalal's anger is with Almighty and not with anyone in particular , but still I dont get the logic that how can killing people (Rajvanshis in this case) will give him the revenge or sadistic pleasure for Hussein-Hasan's death 😕... He can stop praying or believing in God to justify his protest against God but why is he going on a violent route once again and that too by declaring war against Rajvanshis ...

I feel CVs should hv shown some self talks of Jalal post Hussein's death to justify his anger and hatred that he has suddenly developed .. Its a bit unclear as to why he wants to go on a killing spree ..

Killing the babies was a plot done by his own cousin brother and his wife and not anyone else .. So why vent out the frustration on other innocent people here when enemies r actually residing in his own dynasty ..

Coming to Jodha , I could relate to her pain more in this case .. Being a mother she too has lost her kids and so she has stopped praying to Kanha which makes sense as she had prayed enough to the Almighty yet could not save her child ... And she is not even holding any grudge against Mughals here when the reality is the main people responsible for the death of their kids is none other than from the same Mughal dynasty only ... So when Jodha holds no grudge against anyone then why is Jalal carrying this extreme hatred in his heart and wants to kill innocent people in the war 🤔

In fact he dont want to believe in love anymore too makes sense as he feels their love making at wrong time thus showing carelessness towards their duties for their kid is the main reason too makes sense but Jalal going back to his old self and ruthlessly wanting to finish off the Rajvanshis makes no sense ...

Jodha dialogues to Bharmal about how both ways she will b defeated in the end was a touching scene ... She found herself at crossroads where she can neither stop or hubby or wish for his defeat nor she can see the blood bath of her own Rajvanshi people ...

I wonder what will make Jalal realise that the destructive path which he has choosen is absolutely wrong and will never give him any peace .. Will it b the dead bodies of Rajvanshis and their blood which will bring change of heart in Jalal or will it b something else .. lets see ..🤔
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Nice take Mansi 👏👏 ... I too thought the same when I saw Pratap .. finally he got a new dress to wear ..😆😆

Coming to the episode , yup it was a filler .. more of setting a stage for the war where Jalal is all ready for the brutal conquer whereas Jodha feels helpless as both sides she will b defeated in the end ..

Though I understand that Jalal's anger is with Almighty and not with anyone in particular , but still I dont get the logic that how can killing people (Rajvanshis in this case) will give him the revenge or sadistic pleasure for Hussein-Hasan's death 😕... He can stop praying or believing in God to justify his protest against God but why is he going on a violent route once again and that too by declaring war against Rajvanshis ...

I feel CVs should hv shown some self talks of Jalal post Hussein's death to justify his anger and hatred that he has suddenly developed .. Its a bit unclear as to why he wants to go on a killing spree ..

Killing the babies was a plot done by his own cousin brother and his wife and not anyone else .. So why vent out the frustration on other innocent people here when enemies r actually residing in his own dynasty ..

Coming to Jodha , I could relate to her pain more in this case .. Being a mother she too has lost her kids and so she has stopped praying to Kanha which makes sense as she had prayed enough to the Almighty yet could not save her child ... And she is not even holding any grudge against Mughals here when the reality is the main people responsible for the death of their kids is none other than from the same Mughal dynasty only ... So when Jodha holds no grudge against anyone then why is Jalal carrying this extreme hatred in his heart and wants to kill innocent people in the war 🤔

In fact he dont want to believe in love anymore too makes sense as he feels their love making at wrong time thus showing carelessness towards their duties for their kid is the main reason too makes sense but Jalal going back to his old self and ruthlessly wanting to finish off the Rajvanshis makes no sense ...

Jodha dialogues to Bharmal about how both ways she will b defeated in the end was a touching scene ... She found herself at crossroads where she can neither stop or hubby or wish for his defeat nor she can see the blood bath of her own Rajvanshi people ...

I wonder what will make Jalal realise that the destructive path which he has choosen is absolutely wrong and will never give him any peace .. Will it b the dead bodies of Rajvanshis and their blood which will bring change of heart in Jalal or will it b something else .. lets see ..🤔

Jyoti, it looks like the night spent with Jodha will be shown as productive. The new tagline of the serial is saying :Jodha aur Akbar ko milega Mughaliya Saltant ka waaris.
That means they are going to show Jodha pregnant again as a result of that night spent together.
I think Jalal will get some epiphany that God has actually taken with one hand but given with the other and his anger may subside (a large part of his anger may already fall when he sees the war carnage he has done plus now this pregnancy).
Looks like Salim on the way. If Ruq now asks for Salim as compensation for losing Husein, Jalal may come to know that she's got an audha ambition. let's see.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: mm250314

Mansi your our post was really very positive even if the episode was just ok ! ...you have explained the meaning of jodha's words brilliantly as the cv's had given too much stress upon her being soft towards rajvanshi's and only at the end it was clarified that Jodha was generally against the futility of war ...many ppl might have felt that she was worried about the war fearing about the tragic plight of rajvanshi's but actually I think that she was not in favour of waging a war coz war only leads to mass destruction and even if the Mughals had a different enemy she would have opposed the war... in the past she had explained to maan singh to continue to fight against the enemy of Mughals ...the cv's can confuse us many times such as they had not given a specific fact to show if only a few weeks had passed after hussein's death ...the dialogues of Jodha could have been more clear without saying much about rajvanshis ...but what can we do ? ...Jodha was very good in her scenes and it is sad to see that Jalal was so rude to her ...when will they be reunited ? ...Jodha could sense that Jalal was in a destructive frame of mind and he was desperate to shed the blood in a savage way ...Jodha was very mature in understanding the sensitive matter where as Jalal was just the opposite ! ...even Jodha had lost her sons like Jalal but she was in control ...it was good that the focus was upon Jodha instead of giving too much screen space to other side characters and as expected maybe due to vacation Rajat had few scenes ...the Salima hb scene was introduced to indicate that Jodha will be able to reform jalal very soon ...raja Bharmal was asked to hold the fort at Agra and I think that he will just sit idle as war shall be over very soon ...shooting war scenes is a costly affair and therefore it can be fast forwarded to end it speedily ...the cardboard cannons and the machinery looked so fake ! ...Jalal looked menacing and he had motivated everyone soundly to just thrash the enemy ! ...his makeup was bad but by his acting he can deliver any scene perfectly ...he was angry with God and he is not aware that he will not have the last laugh as he was hoping ! ...I am waiting to watch how cv's shall show his remorse at the end ! ...his belief in God will be restored very soon and maybe he will sense his misplaced anger after witnessing the massacre ...it is difficult to predict about the future episodes but it will be a treat to watch the spiritual journey of Jalal! ...will Jodha be shown as pregnant if only a few weeks have gone by ? ...then I think that jalal's rage can be somewhat understood ... Ruqu 's exposure has been sidelined and Jodha has been blamed by Jalal ...so cv's are efficient in giving us unpleasant surprises ! . Let us see how they depict the war on Monday !

Yes indeed, war is expensive to shoot and not always very authentic looking so let's see how they shorten it all up. The Zee Man said by Diwali there will be a reconciliation between Jo-Ja!
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Posted: 10 years ago

No Mansi if again rukku comes up with salim drama then il kill that cv..i am planning to create one twitter account to blast that writer..if she asks i want jalal to give her back that she can afopt any baby but not jodhas baby...it was her mistake she hired zeenat and kids died due to this..if this time also he keeps quite and dont hav d guts to shut rukku theb he is unfit to be a husband and dad...for sure rukku il come up with something..last time salima made her to shut her mouth..hope this time jalal takes action against her..if not its an injustice to jodha...she is not baby producing machine..whr she il give birth to kids and rukku il adopt it..



Originally posted by: skanda12


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Jyoti, it looks like the night spent with Jodha will be shown as productive. The new tagline of the serial is saying :Jodha aur Akbar ko milega Mughaliya Saltant ka waaris.


That means they are going to show Jodha pregnant again as a result of that night spent together.


I think Jalal will get some epiphany that God has actually taken with one hand but given with the other and his anger may subside (a large part of his anger may already fall when he sees the war carnage he has done plus now this pregnancy).


Looks like Salim on the way. If Ruq now asks for Salim as compensation for losing Husein, Jalal may come to know that she's got an audha ambition. let's see.

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Posted: 10 years ago
Gem I am disgusted to say the least what in the name of God are they trying to show? Now If ruks asks for this child I will literally call and abuse zee to no extent. What are they trying to show? Anyways now jalal will be back to jodha simply cause she is pregnant. The love story is gone with the wind. Now they will show ruks pleading jalal for jodha's kid cause she has been irresponsible with the kids? And jalal will stay quiet? What the hell? I have honestly lost hope for jalal to say anything against ruks. All his anger is reserved for jodha and he becomes a chicken in front of ruks. Gem can you please call that moron zee guy and ask him that why in the world are they ruining their own creation by butchering the character of jalal and making him return to jodha solely cause she is pregnant. This is just the love for a waaris. Enough of this kid asking nonsense. It is going on since 2 months now.
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Originally posted by: karishma.s

Gem I am disgusted to say the least what in the name of God are they trying to show? Now If ruks asks for this child I will literally call and abuse zee to no extent. What are they trying to show? Anyways now jalal will be back to jodha simply cause she is pregnant. The love story is gone with the wind. Now they will show ruks pleading jalal for jodha's kid cause she has been irresponsible with the kids? And jalal will stay quiet? What the hell? I have honestly lost hope for jalal to say anything against ruks. All his anger is reserved for jodha and he becomes a chicken in front of ruks. Gem can you please call that moron zee guy and ask him that why in the world are they ruining their own creation by butchering the character of jalal and making him return to jodha solely cause she is pregnant. This is just the love for a waaris. Enough of this kid asking nonsense. It is going on since 2 months now.


no ruqiya wont be show to get the child from jodha ,they already done with that part and it was up to
jodha to share her child or not no one forced her to do so . now it will be up to her to share her child or not i am sure they wont do it as sailm was only jodha child .she did not share it with anyone .
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: karishma.s

Gem I am disgusted to say the least what in the name of God are they trying to show? Now If ruks asks for this child I will literally call and abuse zee to no extent. What are they trying to show? Anyways now jalal will be back to jodha simply cause she is pregnant. The love story is gone with the wind. Now they will show ruks pleading jalal for jodha's kid cause she has been irresponsible with the kids? And jalal will stay quiet? What the hell? I have honestly lost hope for jalal to say anything against ruks. All his anger is reserved for jodha and he becomes a chicken in front of ruks. Gem can you please call that moron zee guy and ask him that why in the world are they ruining their own creation by butchering the character of jalal and making him return to jodha solely cause she is pregnant. This is just the love for a waaris. Enough of this kid asking nonsense. It is going on since 2 months now.




lets not waste our money on zee karishma...jalal loved jo and now he is punishing himself..if he has heart then it beats only for her..if not for her then for no one...right now he is in bling rage..not in a position to think..once he come back to his senses he il regret..but wat he did was wrong...coming to rukku ..let them glorify..likemany even i am waiting for other historical show in starplus or colours..once its telecasted il watch this show online if its good..other wise bye bye..other channels shows is royally..they wony glorify vamps like zee and ekta..so il watch this show only if its hood if not il watch ashoka...
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Posted: 10 years ago
And ruks exposure in all this where in the world did that go? I honestly have no clue as to what in the world is she going to be caught. I donot think that she is ever going to be exposed.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: karishma.s

And ruks exposure in all this where in the world did that go? I honestly have no clue as to what in the world is she going to be caught. I donot think that she is ever going to be exposed.



no do not wait for ruiya to get expose it is not possible zee is only fooling people who call them
and waiting for her to get expose will never happen as once zee told me she is very much part of show meaning she will remind till end of it .

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