War winds blow ... but Jalal's real enemy is God! - Page 9

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Posted: 10 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: tamy267

Mansi, u gave the most beautiful explanation of yesterday's episode esp. Jalal's anger with God scene.👏❤️


u know some events in life cannot be explained...they r beyond explanations, justifications and all the "tions"...right now Jalal's action is the one...he is not in senses..he lost faith in God and trying to prove he can do anything..."u didnt do anything when my sons were dying, I will kill your bande to have ultimate peace"...this is insanity...kitna khafa hai woh ke apne Khuda ko challenge karraha hai? he waged this war for his personal loss?! millions will die so that Shehenshah can have dil ka sukoon...?! and he is not in a state to understand ethics at this moment...he is doing everything which is vicious and hateful.

he will get over it very soon...when he will be tired shedding his enemy's blood, he will look around and only will find blood-stained corpses all over...then he will realize the fight he is leading has no sense..it is certainly not giving him peace which he is looking for but increasing his pain, he wanted to laugh seeing the corpses but its making him more restless an driving him insane...there cant be any fight with God...God is above everything..life n death r in His hands..aur unki marzi ke bina kuch nahi hota..he will realize it...he will become spiritual then...but at that time the damage is already done..millions of people lost their lives.

Jodha is in the most helpless state...she did her best to stop the war, to stop Jalal from doing something very wrong...but she failed..first she lost her sons and now his husband behaving like a maniac making her feel worst...I dont know how will she react when Jalal will get back his senses and come back to her...will she accept him? or will she reject him?

I want a spiritual journey of JJ after this war...yes, 3 years haven't passed...some days passed only.

Absolutely bang on Tamy. That is exactly what I feel! You have said it all beautifully! It happens to the best of us that unless we go to the extreme we don't understand the meaning of many things in life!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: jojaparijat

Awesome post!!👏

hope ur pediction on jalal is r8..he gets back to his senes!
he should b tough n cruel but only towards culprits but not towards innocent people!
Hope to see a new beginning of jo n ja love story wid more passion, understanding n trust..n after this they will stand by each other no matter what is d situation..hope now this new jalal wil stand for jo if ruk insults jo.no more domination of ruks in d harem!!hope cvs will potray their new begining of their love in a very gud n epic way..otherwise after d accusation jalal put on jo it will b very difficult to accept this as an epic love story!hope 4 d best!..i read ur post every day but never got tym to reply..bcoz u post in d odd tymn..anyways all ur posts r awesome n keep up d positivity n pass on d positivity to us as well..😉thank u!

Thanks so much dear, your words are very very encouraging!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Gem12

Sorry Mansi...held up with work..wont be able to give my take.. thks for the lovely analysis

Cool, no problems, we can talk some time on phone!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Thanks Mansi for the lovely update.

At this difficult times I can understand JJ being angry with God but what I cannot still understand is the Akbar's dialogues to God. I can understand his sadness, anger, frustration , staying away from God but one of the reasons to wage a war is to show his power by killing people as a revenge to God because he took away his twins. I cannot accept this.

Jodha was concerned for both Rajwanshi and Mughals. She was particularly upset with this war because she knew this is going to leave a black mark for her husband. Also being a loyal and true wife does not mean that you stay and support your husband even if he is wrong. In the end even if she objects or argues she will stand by him, but at the same time as a wife she has every rights to tell her husband her opinion. Jalal is shehenshah but for Jodha he is her husband and as a human being both Jalal and Jodha are not perfect. To me only one person is infallible and that is God.

as of now easy reconciliation is only if somehow Jalal gets hurt and Jodha takes care of him. I also hope JO is not pregnant. I did read your comments in a earlier post with respect to JO's pregnancy, but I hoped to see JJ going to Salim Christi and then Salim happens.

Sindhu, I was waiting for your comments!
I see your point about Jalal's dialogues to God being over the top somewhat, but to me it felt OK because in real life he may have not said it out, he may have felt all that, but in a drama he has to say the dialogues out so that the audience understands how he is feeling. hence I was prepared to accept his dialogues as his angry "feelings" being expressed for the sake of dramatic effect.
And yes, Jodha has to be firm but fair. It's a tough ask to be the important wife of an important man. Everything you do is under scrutiny and she has to tread such a fine line now between supporting Jalal and yet not supporting what he is doing!
I hope your wishes for Salim Chishti's intervention come true. I am sure they will because Salim was named after Salim Chisti only!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: skanda12


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Thanks Prav, when I wrote the post I had no idea it would positively affect so many people. Thanks for saying all the nice things that you did. Makes my effort every morning worth it!


This is Neetz, Mansi. Never mind though. :p
You have done a very good job.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: Neetz


This is Neetz, Mansi. Never mind though. :p
You have done a very good job.

Oops, Neetz I am really sorry to have mixed up the names. Won't do it again, promise!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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You have presented a well-thought-out and realistic analysis of the current scenario at Agra .

Excellent write-up Mansi .

I believe that the bloody aftermath of the war will be instrumental in bringing about a change in Jalal's thinking . At the risk of sounding repetitive I will still maintain my thoughts from yesterday , that in spite of releasing his pent up frustrations with his brutality , Jalal will realize that calling for war and massacring thousands of innocents will not bring his lost babies back .

Jodha's words to him prior to war will haunt him . Not only the sight of the dead bodies but also the plight of the hundreds of war widows , children and their helpless families will refresh his mind of his own grief and the misery that he has caused these hundreds .

The after effects of this war will contribute towards the spiritual growth of Jallaluddin Mohammad . I am hoping to see him realize and accept that there is a hidden power that executes and controls everything that happens in ones' lives and that is the power of KUDA . He will realize that neither he himself nor Jodha or their love is responsible in anyway for the death of their babies . This realization will renew his belief in the Almighty .

I do not wish to predict anything about the future of their relationship Mansi , because whenever I do so , I notice that the straight opposite happens . I only wish to see TRUE repentance from Jalal towards Jodha . I feel that he has taken her presence in his life and her love for granted . He needs to make honest heartfelt amends for blaming her love towards him to be the reason for the babies death . Jodha should not be shown as easily forgiving. She should make him realize that love does not indulge in playing the blame game and in senseless brutality . He should understand the pain that she has silently withstood for not only losing her babies but more so for being accused and blamed by him .




Charu .

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mansi.. u no i was so angry on jalal...i am still angry on jalal.. read ur post and tamy's and dhiksha's too..still i was so adamant and not ready to think at the other side of the coin...i may take some more time..but i accept that Jalal did all this in pain and in blind rage...he is not in his senses..once he is back to his sense he il repent more ..phir bi wat he did was wrong..phir bi to forget everything and to forgive is life..and to move on is life.. zindagi ek gulzar hai ..jaha khoobsurat phool bi hote hai..aur dard dene wali kaanta bi..

but ur's post tamy and dhiksha's post made me to think from jalal's perspective..i am trying to understand from his point of view..once agian thk u guys for such beautiful and thought ful post...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

You have presented a well-thought-out and realistic analysis of the current scenario at Agra .


Excellent write-up Mansi .

I believe that the bloody aftermath of the war will be instrumental in bringing about a change in Jalal's thinking . At the risk of sounding repetitive I will still maintain my thoughts from yesterday , that in spite of releasing his pent up frustrations with his brutality , Jalal will realize that calling for war and massacring thousands of innocents will not bring his lost babies back .

Jodha's words to him prior to war will haunt him . Not only the sight of the dead bodies but also the plight of the hundreds of war widows , children and their helpless families will refresh his mind of his own grief and the misery that he has caused these hundreds .

The after effects of this war will contribute towards the spiritual growth of Jallaluddin Mohammad . I am hoping to see him realize and accept that there is a hidden power that executes and controls everything that happens in ones' lives and that is the power of KUDA . He will realize that neither he himself nor Jodha or their love is responsible in anyway for the death of their babies . This realization will renew his belief in the Almighty .

I do not wish to predict anything about the future of their relationship Mansi , because whenever I do so , I notice that the straight opposite happens . I only wish to see TRUE repentance from Jalal towards Jodha . I feel that he has taken her presence in his life and her love for granted . He needs to make honest heartfelt amends for blaming her love towards him to be the reason for the babies death . Jodha should not be shown as easily forgiving. She should make him realize that love does not indulge in playing the blame game and in senseless brutality . He should understand the pain that she has silently withstood for not only losing her babies but more so for being accused and blamed by him .




Charu .

Charu, the parts I have marked in blue are so perfect they are touching me to the core! Beautiful!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: Gem12

Mansi.. u no i was so angry on jalal...i am still angry on jalal.. read ur post and tamy's and dhiksha's too..still i was so adamant and not ready to think at the other side of the coin...i may take some more time..but i accept that Jalal did all this in pain and in blind rage...he is not in his senses..once he is back to his sense he il repent more ..phir bi wat he did was wrong..phir bi to forget everything and to forgive is life..and to move on is life.. zindagi ek gulzar hai ..jaha khoobsurat phool bi hote hai..aur dard dene wali kaanta bi..

but ur's post tamy and dhiksha's post made me to think from jalal's perspective..i am trying to understand from his point of view..once agian thk u guys for such beautiful and thought ful post...

Gem, you're on the way already to seeing things from a different perspective!

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