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Posted: 11 years ago
#41
the blame thing is simply complicated. he isnt blaming jodha, he is actually blaming the love. in a way he was blaming himself for to be in love. he didnt shifted the blame to jodha, he deliberately detached himself from her bcoz he feels if he will be close to her he will again loose sumthing. he wants jodha to hate him. he wants evryone to hate him. he had cut all his ties from evryone. yup he is wrong definitely & we had always seen whenever he is wrong he always pays the price. but is he happy??? no. is he leading a gud life???? no. he is actually hurting himself by hurting jodha, bcoz they r one. this is again a fight b/w heart & mind. im not defending him neither im saying he is right, im just trying to portray his way of thinking right now. he knows he is wrong, but he deliberately wants to be wrong to challenge god. he thinks tht despite he had done gud things like abolishing tirthkar or jagiya then also he lost his kids, so now he wants to see wht more can happen if he is bad. in a way he fears tht he will loose tht person whom he loves. so it was deliberate so tht jodha stays away from him. this is actually his reverse love which is really complicated & as they say we hurt tht person the most whom we love the most.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi ela, I was bit disappointed by Jalal'sactions towards Jodha.. Why he needs to blame themselves and creating guilty mode where Jodha already sailing in guilt feeling which was brewing inside her.. I could get Jalal's extreme emotional turmoil which can't even be paid over anymore but why no one consider Jodha's feelings as losted mother for two kids.. How she could have been passed all those days? Yes I could feel their love in last scene where Jalal's eyes expressed much visible... Ignoring, accepting, denying all this emotions will bring them a new revolution in their status.. It was very obvious to know that no body can heal or fill up Jodha's place in Jalal heart.. Right now he was failed to see his life but soon SB is on wat it seems.. Onlything did Jalal ignores Rukaiya in this way..? Loved SB perfect speech in punching back Ruku.. Again cv's failed to show a motherly emotions from a real mother but from a biological mother? Again Jalal back to cruel mode? Separation or leap between them?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: ..Tahniat..

After watching the episode till the end I can conclude that this drama will continue and stretched unnecessarily. Thanks CVs for the bonus negative track🤗 what more can we expect from the CVs?

Yes this is our Diwali gift yaar...They dont care about diwali or dussherra...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: elasingh

ask adi...she can throw the light...Adi where are you?



Yes it is 3 years since the death of the twins since it was in 1564 that Akbar first sent word to Chittor about shielding the traitors of the Sultanat - and the timeline is Oct 1567 in the show as of now - and by the time the war is over it will be Feb 1568 and then we may see Ranthambor kissa
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adiana12

Akbar is blaming his love for the death of his twins Ela and thus hurting the one he is in love with - he is in the syndrome that he is the cause of her loss and hence has distanced himself from her - normal hai - and becoz he could not grieve for his kids the grief has turned into anger which has to come out - isiliye kehte hain that this stupid call that men shd not cry is more harmful for men - infact Patriarchy is as harmful to men as it is to women - and waise bhi Akbar ka vision was to bring the whole of Hindustan under his banner - and for that war cannot be got rid of - and EK ne isko abhi tak saint bana diya tha - aur saints jung pe nahin jaate - toh yeh EK ka NR hai !!!

And after Chittor it was the turn of Ranthambor - and since the Hadas already knew of Chittor they capitulated without fight - but as part of the treaty they refused to have any matrimonial relation with Akbar, to which he readily agreed - that shd tell you how much he really loved Jodha - since if their is relation had happened he would have had to make this wife as another chief queen, as the Hadas along with the Sisodiyas and the Kachwahas were the 3 main Rajwanshi grps - toh he would have had to make the girl equal or higher to Jodha - and the fact that he was not only not interested in a matrimonial alliance with the Hadas but very readily agreed to this clause shows what Jodha meant to him


Adi, I can understand Jalal's pain. Tragedies of life sometimes make you bitter. They are trying to bring 'Talaash track' here. But I m confused with Jalal's dialogue to Jodha - 'Kya humne apko Hussain k pas rehne ko nahi kaha tha...kya humein humare bachche ki maut ki wajah apko nahi manna chahiye...' Is it blaming himself or her?

I m not blaming anyone. CVs wanted to show their separation so they are showing it. Par achha twist hai. I m excited for war. And I agree with you that wars are natural for a warrior. It has nothing to do with being heartless or not.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46
Thanks Ela for the writeup, I sort of like the "baddie Akbar". At times in recent months I have wondered whether I was watching the story of Akbar or Mahatama Gandhi. Akbar had a wild, violent streak that needs to be shown. It was only after the birth of Salim that he calmed down and rarely went on military campaigns again.

Ruqaiya's no punishment. I sort of agree with the logic, her downfall needs a full fledged track. It cannot be wasted on a track which is already overflowing with drama. Besides if Ruqaiya had been punished now, her standing as a villain would have declined and at present the serial is desperately of short of viable villains.

The separation of Jalal and Jodha. Again I see the logic here, if the CV's want to show Akbar on a warpath against the Rajput states, it is desirable that Jodha not be shown, hand in glove. Besides the reunion will be sweeter after a long separation.

As for the importance of the passionate SR, a day back. I was off target, nothing to do with Salim or any other child, it was just for guilt. It means we will have another SR later in happier times.


Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: ---jais---

I hate jalal today . How can he blame jodha for that? Its look like only he lost his children not jodha and he blaming for that night where they equally fault. They will distance from each other without any blame game its fine but after that rudness and blame game i hate it.
Loved salima begum she showed the mirror to ruk.
Thanks for the update ela.

I can understand Jallu that he is badly hurt...but three years is a long time and now he should start thinking rationally...What abt Jodha? What options does she has? Can she marry again ? Can she has kids with another man like Jalal? What about the guilt thath she has been pushed into? Uss ghutan ka kya?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Ela, today whole...whole episode was intense and painful.
Both Jodha and Jalal faith in Almighty has shaken and questioned by them.. Its like the very existense of themselves turned farce .
No, love is not lost, its just hidden and in denial...just like their faith in Almighty.
They still feel each other's presence and that shows they have not forgotten each other and their love. They just can't meet each other's eyes.
When Jalal flinched seeing Jodha's blood on his sword is a proof of everything between them.
They're loosing but not yet lost.

Ela, your Zee man is one big fat liar, leap happened, Rukku smirking ... I think Adi's Radha will definitely dance 😆


Mishti...this is how I interpret Jalal's behaviour...

He blames their act of love for Hussain's death: the act for which both r responsible...hence, he has distanced himself from his love in repentance...he is hurt beyond any sense of reasoning to realise that Jo is hurting just as much...😭

This kind of self blame is very normal in such devastating cases of child loss...

It ripped my heart today to see this kind of devastation...😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49
Really Ela 3 years leap ? 😲
Then 2/3 children born to Jalal , didn't survive. 🤢
Only the end of the war will tell whether leap been taken. 🥱
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: copacati

3 yrs is for chittor one ithink the prblm was there when they where happily married toh total milake teen saal ho gye

not necessary that they didn't talk for three yrs

I hope you are right and three years have not passed becoz it will be very difficult to pick up the relationship after three years...

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