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Posted: 11 years ago
All analysis are so beautiful and amazing to read
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Posted: 11 years ago
Maddy these are my predictions..how rukku il get caught and punished...


1)i think rukku wont allow jo to care her kid... she il give it to daayi maa...but yaar history wise first hussain died..that is rukku's kid...to rukku's kid il fall sick coz of carelessness and jallu il take back the kid and gives it to jo..still kid il be sick only..but furious rukku il try to kill jo then both kids il die ..or wen the kid is given back to jo then rukku try to poison jo but kids ill die coz of milk and jo il be saved..since kids drink mothers milk kids il fall sick...first hussain il die and in a week hassan... jallu il get to no about this saazish and finds out the culprit with the help of birbal and thus rukku gets caught...

2)she kidnaps jodha's kid to make hussain as heir so that she il be muz and also jalal coz she gets back jalal wen jalal hates jo coz of carelessness kid went missing but gets caught and ...both kids il fall sick coz of seperation and no proper care..jo's kid kidnapped..hussain by daimaa careless..so both il fall sick..and thus il die.. jallu in a rage il stop talking to rukku and breaks all his relationships coz of her greed and her zid she killed baby's and tried to kill jo

3) she il try to kill jo so that she il get both kids and jalal and muz audha but gets caught.. jo il be saved kids il die..

4)she il try to harm hassan and puts the blame on jo that coz of her carelessness kid is sick so that jalal il hate jo ..but hakima il declare its a saazish so that il make jallu alert..jallu il take birbal's help and thus she il be exposed... but rukku kid il also fall sick coz of twin brother sickness and diamaa ...thus hussain il be back to jo but il be sick and hussain il die and then hassan too il die..

in sab main she may say that she wanted jallu and kids for her so did this.. but how her greed for muz il be out infront of everyone
Edited by Gem12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: preetgurti

Maddy thank you for thread I wanted to post my views on forum but no one was posting thread but without even asking u I had told all u will make that was my trust on u and I know u itne by now

episode was good compared to all episodes this week
though jaziya abolishment was not needed now if it would have been separate full week track with akbar also knowing first and then dilemma not coz of ruq but coz of sultanat would have been brilliant
but ja never do that there finishing such tracks in say or two is habbit

leaving that aside today was beautiful episode
we all wanted akdha with baby we got
jalal little jealous in fun way we got
akdha utterly cute convo we got
emotional akdha we got
huggi akdha we got
Nok jhok akdha we got

most imp
mother jodha we got
parents akdha we got

jodha akbar don't need anything they are content happy satisfied they have eachother Love and babies there life
what more can human ask for
khushiya itni dijiye jitni symbol jaaye
dheeraj utna dijiye jitna sahaa jaaye

so there patience level with ruq is at lasr leg now anytime it can burst with her attitude and behaviour which is cncern factor

jodha never snatched jalal from ruq she need to see root of it jalal was never hers he was actually alone no one was with him inside he was all alone jodha came and he got that someone god had send sply for him
and he got that she is the one where can be with him always as well she got him

paya tujhko payi duniya

ruq never got what all jalal went through alone hiding his self showing a jallad in him he got blv he is jallad he just needed someone who can jist walk with him without any fear who can tell him if he is wrong who can jeld his hand if doing injustice


that all no one did for him



Oww Preet so sweet of you. Thanks you so much. 😳
I know I will not be able to make thread after every episode, if I make thread and then do not get time to reply to the posts I feel guilty. Like I do for Sunday thread posts not replied by me.

Wonderful post esp the lines in bold loved them. We got Jalal and Jodha the way we were wanting to see them after the birth of twins AND possessive Jalal too!

Ruk never had Jalal the way Jodha has cos only Jodha made him discover the hidden person inside. Jodha made him crave for things he never even knew he valued or wanted.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Absolutely scintillating episode!!! Maddy, I loved it so much, esp JJ scenes and I felt so sad to see Jodha hand over Hussein to Ruq so haltingly as if she was giving her life away...

Beautiful episode ... will write in detail tmrw ...

Loved your take... you are at your best when JJ are together 🤗



Thanks Radhika, missed you and your posts. 🤗
Hope you will be back from tomorrow with long posts.
I just loved yesterday's episode, we got our magic back.
Finally got Jodha and Jalal with their babies and only immersed in each other. I guess everybody got emotional.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: amina1

As a woman i dont think i can do two things,agar koi mere character pe sawal uthye thats what maha did to jadha in sujamal track yet she forgave her and apna baccha kisi ko dena,this two things is very hard to forgate and give,but ektas heroin hai to kuch bhi ho sakta hai,havent seen todays episode and do not want to see it




I agree with you absolutely. Nobody can stand to see their character questioned, EVER.

I don't feel Jodha and Jalal forgave MA really. See when Jodha learnt of MA's hand in Sujamal track, what was told to her was MA did it cos as a mother she was insecure about Jalal getting away from her. Even HB GB and all believed this cos Jalal never did tell anybody about his entire talk with MA.
When Jodha learnt she confronted MA for causing hurt to Jalal. Jodha only wanted to continue giving MA the respect as she was the mother figure and Jalal loved her. This has to do with decency and respecting elders nothing more than that.

Resham had to try so many times for Jodha to get involved and then also it was only when Hakima told Jodha MA had stopped eating MA had just few days left to live, then Jodha tried to mend fences that too only for Jalal's sake.
Here even with Jalal, I think both he and Jodha chose to try and forget rather than forgive - we should not forget MA never did ask for any forgiveness also truly! They just chose to remember the old times when she was a mother to Jalal and tried to give her some dignity in her death. Jodha did it for Jalal's sake.

As for giving away a baby, we have so many instances in the world when women do this. I guess some do it out of immense love for the child to give him/her the best life which they might not be able to give, some do it to bring happiness to loved ones. So just like there is good side there is an ugly side too. If Ruk was really doing this out of craving to be a mother and if they had really become a big happy family we might think differently.

Still I agree with you, it would take immense love and sacrifice to do such an unimaginable act. Again Jodha might never have said yes if she had not thought that with Ruk her baby will always be with her and she will also be part of upbringing.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: mandyg

..and also maddy i expect more intelligent scenes of birbal..now this whole dek and child tax issue was senseless and birbal's involvement got wasted and that awaam scene was so rushed that it looked unreal..the only scene of his i liked was his scene with his wife..i would want his real involvement in real politics and not just his statement every now and then that he wants to make begums happy..in fact i like how they showed him in the movie, the scenes were very interesting and i hope they show more in those lines!



LOL I don't even remember the JA movie Birbal - all I remember is HR and AR! 😉😆
I guess Birbal's rise has to be gradual, he can't be in the thick of things just after entering Agra so I think his character will be developed over time.
I think his wife is going to take the place of Javeda!

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Posted: 11 years ago
Maddy,

What a beautiful episode!!! The episode was filled with the adorable and elegant royal family!! I am in love with the babies - they are sooo cute. I am going to miss them badly when they leave the show. 😕

Akbar, Jodha and Birbal played their parts perfectly to make Ruqaiyya herself accept abolition of Jaziya. Her expression when she realized this was to die for. 🤣

I loved it that Jodha stands up to Ruqaiyya at least in issues that are close to her heart. She really stood her own against Ruq in this Jaziya abolition track. 👏 JJ beamed in happiness while Ruqaiyya's face darkened ominously. A storm had started brewing in her mind already looking at the happy face of Jodha.

I loved how Jodha acknowledged and thanked Birbal through a simple glance and a smile. Already the two have started bonding well. Like Tansen and Todarmal, Birbal seems to have realized from first impressions itself that it's Jodha who is the real empress of the Mughal Sultanat. ⭐️

The way Jodha teased Jalal by praising Birbal for coming up with such a brilliant plan and giving him all the credit for the far-reaching judgment, Jalal was driven to suppressed jealousy. Noticing this, the naughty Jodha gushed on about Birbal's intelligence and his ability to keep her happy. Jalal rose to leave immediately. Teasingly, Jodha held him back, professing her love for him and declaring how no one could ever take his place in her life. At this, Jalal drew her closer and told her that he could not even bear the thought of his children coming between him and Jodha. It was such a romantic moment!

Maddy, remember how many people felt that there was no scope for Jodha in the Akbar-Birbal interactions. Last night's episode proved them utterly wrong. 😳 The three musketeers had the last laugh, as they joined hands to beat Ruqaiyya at her own game.

What followed was a tender scene in which both cuddle a crying baby each, trying to make them calm. As the babies dozed off, both JJ prayed that their happiness should never be eclipsed by any negativity. Ameen!

Stung by her loss of face in the DEK, Ruqaiyya approached Hamida Bano at the crack of dawn and argued to be given her baby immediately because she feared that the baby may become too attached to Jodha and Jodha may refuse to part with the child later out of motherly bonding. Hamida tried to make her see sense that the babies had been born prematurely and needed their natural mother. But Ruqaiyya remained adamant till Hamida gave in.

Jalal, who overheard this conversation, reminded Jodha that only one of the babies was hers. Being the ever-graceful queen, Jodha did not flinch from reality. Jalal could barely look at Jodha, whilst she had to steel herself to give away a part of her.

How I hated Ruqaiyya at that moment!! How can a woman be so insensitive to the needs of a mother and a new-born baby? For the first time, since the Ruqaiyya Downfall track started, she accepted to herself that she was taking away from Jodha not just a child, but someone she loved the most, just the way Jodha had taken Jalal away from her a few months back (in her twisted logic manner).

Jodha just melted into Jalal's arms at that moment, beseeching him not to say a word, for words were insufficient to describe just how she felt at that moment. All she asked him was if she had done the right thing. He assured her that no woman / mother had the courage to do what she had done.

I was really upset with the Creatives for giving one child away to Ruqaiyya. It was heart-wrenching to see not just a mother-child being separated, but also twins being separated. I feel JJ are beginning to realize the true colors of Ruqaiyya and why she had insisted on adopting one child of Jodha, instead of just sharing the responsibility of bringing up the twins.

Precap:

Jodha requests Ruqaiyya to let her be the nursing mother to Hussein. But Ruqaiyya shoots down her request and says that she would not even let the shadow of Jodha fall upon her child, leave alone allow her to nurse him. Jalal is watching silently but with a feeling of embitterment. He cannot believe that Ruqaiyya can stoop so low.

Last but not the least, Birbal and his wife! Such a cute couple!! 😳

All in all, a complete package with a little bit of everything! For next week - yeh dil maange more! 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Brilliant remarks, Maddy - loved it!!! 👏
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Originally posted by: Gem12

Maddy these are my predictions..how rukku il get caught and punished...


1)i think rukku wont allow jo to care her kid... she il give it to daayi maa...but yaar history wise first hussain died..that is rukku's kid...to rukku's kid il fall sick coz of carelessness and jallu il take back the kid and gives it to jo..still kid il be sick only..but furious rukku il try to kill jo then both kids il die ..or wen the kid is given back to jo then rukku try to poison jo but kids ill die coz of milk and jo il be saved..since kids drink mothers milk kids il fall sick...first hussain il die and in a week hassan... jallu il get to no about this saazish and finds out the culprit with the help of birbal and thus rukku gets caught...

2)she kidnaps jodha's kid to make hussain as heir so that she il be muz and also jalal coz she gets back jalal wen jalal hates jo coz of carelessness kid went missing but gets caught and ...both kids il fall sick coz of seperation and no proper care..jo's kid kidnapped..hussain by daimaa careless..so both il fall sick..and thus il die.. jallu in a rage il stop talking to rukku and breaks all his relationships coz of her greed and her zid she killed baby's and tried to kill jo

3) she il try to kill jo so that she il get both kids and jalal and muz audha but gets caught.. jo il be saved kids il die..

4)she il try to harm hassan and puts the blame on jo that coz of her carelessness kid is sick so that jalal il hate jo ..but hakima il declare its a saazish so that il make jallu alert..jallu il take birbal's help and thus she il be exposed... but rukku kid il also fall sick coz of twin brother sickness and diamaa ...thus hussain il be back to jo but il be sick and hussain il die and then hassan too il die..

in sab main she may say that she wanted jallu and kids for her so did this.. but how her greed for muz il be out infront of everyone


Gem,

Great predictions!!! 👏

I don't want to think about how the babies will die. It will be so sad. I just hope it's all over in one episode. 😕

JJ are so happy today. Even though they have given one child away with heart ache, they feel happy knowing that Ruq will be a good mother. But if she is responsible for killing their twins so early in life, then they will feel guilty all their lives for giving away their baby to a murderess.

I want them to be together in their grief and not be emotionally separated. I was thankful yesterday that Jodha opened up her grief in front of Jalal instead of hiding it, as earlier. Now they should be transparent with each other about their happiness and sadness because they have only each other to share everything with.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Ruk never had Jalal the way Jodha has cos only Jodha made him discover the hidden person inside. Jodha made him crave for things he never even knew he valued or wanted.


Maddy,

Ruq has no fine feelings. She doesn't seem capable of even understanding what love is - love for a friend, a husband, a child.

Earlier, she used Jalal to become powerful and acquire status. Now she is using a new born baby (after separating it from its natural mother) to further her ambitions and seek revenge. She thinks, like Maham, that she is doing this to get back Jalal. But she has lost him long back. After being with Jodha, which husband would wish to go back to a woman like Ruq? 🤢

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