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Posted: 11 years ago
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They move together in perfect synchronisation

do panchi chone chale hai asmaan
Raahen alag alag thi dono ka jahan
thoda dheeraj tyaag samarpan paas inhe le aya
sang chugenge sukh ke motiphir ye kelhayenge
do hanson ka joda
pairs of two swan live together for years weather conditions not favoured still they live together with eachother
Love
purity
dreams
Beauty
union
elegance
transformation
Partnership
do hanson ka jodaIn our hindu culture also two swan ham and sa are paired together in mantras divine partnership
jodha akbar is that for me

The love which is in heart forever
seep main moti jaise dil main bas jaayega

every relationship belongs to you I can trust you forever

apnon se bhi zayda apne hogaaye

little patience forgiveness sacrifice givingness surrender
build the stepping stone so beautifully its unaffected now and rock solid

jodha akbar
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Posted: 11 years ago
#72
Ayushi and Preet,

Wonderful points and beautiful songs as ever. :) Thanks for sharing! Sorry, will reply in detail later. :) Busy right now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: history_geek

UNRes..

Hi all,

I will not go to Rumi this time(he is the King of Spirituality), and neither will use any of the theories pertaining to this topic, because Spirituality applies to all of us differently...We all perceive and look at it in different manner...I am jotting down whatever came to my mind i free flow...It's again an UN-edited Version...Pardon the errors, if any...

When i look at J-J's journey, it appears quite different to me...They lived in that era where they did not have all those amenities which we have today..No an iota of difference of opinion here that, they were the MOST RICH and powerful personalities of their times...Not all are Akbar and not all are MUZ and not all are SOUL-MATES as Jodha-Akbar...Someone said - "With greater powers come greater responsibilities"...I would go a step further and add one more line in this in JJ's context -- "With greater powers come greater responsibilities and ALSO GREATER TROUBLES" ... No doubt, Jalal was in a powerful position, hence he was always the NISHANA of his enemies...Poor Man...Had to FIGHT against his OWN Kinsmen, and faced betrayal...Be it Adham, Sharif, MA, Munim, Bairam, MC Begum...Don't want to write more on this, but this list is Endless and went on increasing till he ruled..!!!...

Sochkar hi ajeeb aur bura lagta hai ki, those people, had to lose so many kids in infancy...Those days when the Empire had many successors , Mughal Empire was an exception...Salim came quite late... The Birth of Twins, even today, creates so much pleasure and evokes celebrations of a different KIND...Imagine, those days, i have NOT heard, any Queen delivering twins...😊... I can not imagine the amount of emotional trauma, JJ had to bear after losing them...Mazak wali baat nahi hai > those people lost their 4 kids back to back.. !!!! And, twins included in that...

Ok...Coming back, i want to say that, a person.?.He/She may be powerful to any extent, but there are some "WOUNDS" , the remedy for which is NOT the superficial materialistic comforts and power, but "Spirituality" ... The Royals had many means of entertainment, be it singing, dance, shikar(hunting), elephant fights, trophy wars, etc., or "Aankh Micholi and Kabutarbaazi 😆" , and many other means...But some losses and deep scars of life can not be healed by these means...They need something else...I guess, here is when Spirituality comes into picture...

Spirituality, for me is a UNDEFINED DOMAIN..😊...And, i can justify my stand, as there are many shades to this WORD...We can go on an on and keep writing on this issue...So, here i go...>>..I think it is the personal transformation in accordance with "certain" ideals which are BOUND to result in our psychological growth, as it denotes the realm of the inner life, that is, the purity of motives, affections, intentions, inner SELF, and the the analysis of one's feelings... In laymen terms, it may be a kind of blissful experience... It can be also seen as a process of re-formation which "aims to recover the original SELF of man"...and is often seen as a blend of humanistic psychological growth, along with mystical and arcane happenings..We all know JJ's "Tryst with Spirituality" and their COMBINED trips to Sufi Saints/ Mystics (Ajmer Sharif, Agra Dargah, Shri Gusainji Ashram, etc..I think these will be shown in our serial..😃..I and KDR81 have mentioned these in our OLD threads..)..If we combine these trips as a PROOF of their Spiritual Journey, then this topic will also include the ethos of mysticism, perfection, devotion and piety...Infact, it relates to the mental aspect of life, contrasted with the material and sensual aspects...Coming to the other side of coin, it can also be accorded a social meaning along with the psychological aspect(described above), because it is the spark which leads one to a journey to attain more secular beliefs, and hence has got to do a lot with our social outlook...I can prove each of these words attaining the maximum meaning in Jodha-Akbar's context...Socially, Psychologically, Mentally, or many aspects which i am writing below...Take Social - And you get the doctrine of secularism getting past the 'treadmill', thereby helping in the Creation of a Better Nation, and this fabric was responsible for the flourishing Mughal Empire in Akbar's time...😉.Hukumat Taaqat ke dum par nahi ki ja sakti...Kuch der ki liye kar sakte ho par zyaada waqt ke liye nahi..These BIG things are often rooted in such small aspects which we tend to ignore...Take Psychological/Mental - And you find a Fountain of Strength Emerging within, which gives you a MEANS to get past the MOST Traumatic Situations of your lives...I want to give examples, but again i am restraining myself.!.

I would also like to mention that, Spirituality has NOTHING to do with a religion...Often, it is confused with religion.. I can give countless examples in this regard, but that may be "out of scope"..😉 .. Hence, only writing normal passages today...{ Those who want to know on this, can Google for "SBNR", and you will know what i mean here..😊 } .. Still, can there be a BIGGER example than OUR OWN Jodha and Akbar.?., two beings who WENT PAST all barriers, and unshackled every tradition...Their journey is Unique for that time, and even in today's world, for they blended 2 faiths to reach the true SELF...Spirituality is not merely following customs and traditions of a religion,{ hence i am NOT talking about this topic} although that helps too. It is an inner awareness of one's connectedness with a higher, call it God or Collective or Source or Life Force, some call it the Ultimate Soul, etc...Another aspects, can be Gratitude, Compassion and empathy...These 2 virtues are the true spiritual bridges. When we feel for another person and connect with him/her, we are indeed connecting to the "spiritual realm" . Only a "genuinely" spiritual person can "truly" feel another's pain and pleasure. And if you can do it, then you are spiritual, whether or not you "believe" in spirituality...For me BELIEVING in Spirituality or not is different than, whether you are spiritual or not...B'coz one may NOT be knowing that he has taken a spiritual route, but may be PASSIVELY following it..😊 Gratitude opens a floodgate of inner peace, and thereby spiritual awareness. Just take note of what we do in our daily lives. Take note of the blessings. Bless the food we eat. Make a list of things we are grateful for. All these will open us up, and bring us closer to experiencing peace and awakening. When we are grateful for everything from our food to our life, we are acknowledging the presence of a Universal Energy and welcoming more positivity into our lives..Isn't this called spirituality.?.In modern times, we all are told by our teachers/elders, etc to maintain a diary and note our daily happenings in it, and told to learn and DERIVE some meaning from it...Same thing happened in OLD times, when Kings used to have many chroniclers with them..Isn't this something on the lines of spirituality.?. Here we are learning something...Isn't it.?. The cause is NOBLE, that is we are exploring where we went wrong...I also want to talk about the Spirituality and Rationalism in this case, in this context i remember Akbar's rational views and Einstein's also...Both, refer to Spirituality in "Rational context"...But that can be "out of scope"..Lets leave it...


Hence, in my sense, Spirituality is a wide subject and we can explore as many dimensions as possible..😊...You see, that there can be various facets of this ONE word, and i'll be very happy if the Creatives are able to rope in even an "iota" of the above qualities in Jodha Akbar...I have seen episodes where the Creatives nailed this ESSENCE perfectly...Does anyone remembers these scenes.?.
1. When Jalal was against Jodha's faith conversion..
2. When he removed the Pilgrim Tax..+.. Jodha's reaction in Amer when he removed the pilgrim tax..
3. Jodha-Hamida convo, after jalal gets well, after the Tiger attack..
These scenes were different...And, they were NOT about "normal talks of tolerance" , but the execution and dialogues in these scenes were par excellence...Sometimes the CV's really shock us with such stuff...I wish, that DEEP thinking and finely "grained" dialogues are again given back to the Leads... The RAW Material is present in this post, and i think this can be conveyed to the CV's (albeit in a easier to understand manner.😉)

Thanks for bearing with this long post...I hope this made SOME sense...
This is my wishful thinking for our Jodha Akbar.!!.


My words won't be able to justify the beauty of this post. Marvellous writing and stupendous thoughts👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Radhika akka , come back ASAP😭!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#75
The Beauty of a Pure Soul

Just looking at the purity on the faces of JJ, in spite of having promised their much-awaited child away, makes me think of them with awe and wonder.

They are not even able to guess that there may be less than motherly instincts in Ruq. Because a pure soul can never think impure thoughts.

Today, the best scene was when Jalal and Jodha look at each other, totally oblivious of Ruq, when they decided on Hassan and Hussain as the baby names.

Seriously, Ruq should get the message by now and quit hanging around JJ. She should know that she is as wanted there with them as yesterday's newspaper. 🤢
Edited by RadhikaS0 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

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Just looking at the purity on the faces of JJ, in spite of having promised their much-awaited child away, makes me think of them with awe and wonder.

They are not even able to guess that there may be less than motherly instincts in Ruq. Because a pure soul can never think impure thoughts.

Today, the best scene was when Jalal and Jodha look at each other, totally oblivious of Ruq, when they decided on Hassan and Hussain as the baby names.

Seriously, Ruq should get the message by now and quit hanging around JJ. She should know that she is as wanted there with them as yesterday's newspaper.🤢


thay moment was awwing how they talk infront of ruq without uttering a word with nly eyes talk
I was so happy hearing hassan and hussain
and the purity and goodness attached with the names akdha babies like gods babies
kids are already a farishtey angels send by god
hassan hussain also pegambar childrens just love the moment and was laughing ruq didn't get single thing

Bacche manm ke saache sare jag ki ankh ke tare ye woh nanhe phool hai jo bhagwan ko lagte pyaare
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

The Beauty of a Pure Soul


Just looking at the purity on the faces of JJ, in spite of having promised their much-awaited child away, makes me think of them with awe and wonder.

They are not even able to guess that there may be less than motherly instincts in Ruq. Because a pure soul can never think impure thoughts.

Today, the best scene was when Jalal and Jodha look at each other, totally oblivious of Ruq, when they decided on Hassan and Hussain as the baby names.

Seriously, Ruq should get the message by now and quit hanging around JJ. She should know that she is as wanted there with them as yesterday's newspaper. 🤢


Nice post Akka⭐️

Just as treasures are uncovered from the earth, so virtue appears from good deeds, and wisdom appears from a pure and peaceful mind. To walk safely through the maze of human life, one needs the light of wisdom and the guidance of virtue.

Indeed Jodha and Jalal are pure souls😳

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

UNRes..

Hi all,

I will not go to Rumi this time(he is the King of Spirituality), and neither will use any of the theories pertaining to this topic, because Spirituality applies to all of us differently...We all perceive and look at it in different manner...I am jotting down whatever came to my mind i free flow...It's again an UN-edited Version...Pardon the errors, if any...

When i look at J-J's journey, it appears quite different to me...They lived in that era where they did not have all those amenities which we have today..No an iota of difference of opinion here that, they were the MOST RICH and powerful personalities of their times...Not all are Akbar and not all are MUZ and not all are SOUL-MATES as Jodha-Akbar...Someone said - "With greater powers come greater responsibilities"...I would go a step further and add one more line in this in JJ's context -- "With greater powers come greater responsibilities and ALSO GREATER TROUBLES" ... No doubt, Jalal was in a powerful position, hence he was always the NISHANA of his enemies...Poor Man...Had to FIGHT against his OWN Kinsmen, and faced betrayal...Be it Adham, Sharif, MA, Munim, Bairam, MC Begum...Don't want to write more on this, but this list is Endless and went on increasing till he ruled..!!!...

Sochkar hi ajeeb aur bura lagta hai ki, those people, had to lose so many kids in infancy...Those days when the Empire had many successors , Mughal Empire was an exception...Salim came quite late... The Birth of Twins, even today, creates so much pleasure and evokes celebrations of a different KIND...Imagine, those days, i have NOT heard, any Queen delivering twins...😊... I can not imagine the amount of emotional trauma, JJ had to bear after losing them...Mazak wali baat nahi hai > those people lost their 4 kids back to back.. !!!! And, twins included in that...

Ok...Coming back, i want to say that, a person.?.He/She may be powerful to any extent, but there are some "WOUNDS" , the remedy for which is NOT the superficial materialistic comforts and power, but "Spirituality" ... The Royals had many means of entertainment, be it singing, dance, shikar(hunting), elephant fights, trophy wars, etc., or "Aankh Micholi and Kabutarbaazi 😆" , and many other means...But some losses and deep scars of life can not be healed by these means...They need something else...I guess, here is when Spirituality comes into picture...

Spirituality, for me is a UNDEFINED DOMAIN..😊...And, i can justify my stand, as there are many shades to this WORD...We can go on an on and keep writing on this issue...So, here i go...>>..I think it is the personal transformation in accordance with "certain" ideals which are BOUND to result in our psychological growth, as it denotes the realm of the inner life, that is, the purity of motives, affections, intentions, inner SELF, and the the analysis of one's feelings... In laymen terms, it may be a kind of blissful experience... It can be also seen as a process of re-formation which "aims to recover the original SELF of man"...and is often seen as a blend of humanistic psychological growth, along with mystical and arcane happenings..We all know JJ's "Tryst with Spirituality" and their COMBINED trips to Sufi Saints/ Mystics (Ajmer Sharif, Agra Dargah, Shri Gusainji Ashram, etc..I think these will be shown in our serial..😃..I and KDR81 have mentioned these in our OLD threads..)..If we combine these trips as a PROOF of their Spiritual Journey, then this topic will also include the ethos of mysticism, perfection, devotion and piety...Infact, it relates to the mental aspect of life, contrasted with the material and sensual aspects...Coming to the other side of coin, it can also be accorded a social meaning along with the psychological aspect(described above), because it is the spark which leads one to a journey to attain more secular beliefs, and hence has got to do a lot with our social outlook...I can prove each of these words attaining the maximum meaning in Jodha-Akbar's context...Socially, Psychologically, Mentally, or many aspects which i am writing below...Take Social - And you get the doctrine of secularism getting past the 'treadmill', thereby helping in the Creation of a Better Nation, and this fabric was responsible for the flourishing Mughal Empire in Akbar's time...😉.Hukumat Taaqat ke dum par nahi ki ja sakti...Kuch der ki liye kar sakte ho par zyaada waqt ke liye nahi..These BIG things are often rooted in such small aspects which we tend to ignore...Take Psychological/Mental - And you find a Fountain of Strength Emerging within, which gives you a MEANS to get past the MOST Traumatic Situations of your lives...I want to give examples, but again i am restraining myself.!.

I would also like to mention that, Spirituality has NOTHING to do with a religion...Often, it is confused with religion.. I can give countless examples in this regard, but that may be "out of scope"..😉 .. Hence, only writing normal passages today...{ Those who want to know on this, can Google for "SBNR", and you will know what i mean here..😊 } .. Still, can there be a BIGGER example than OUR OWN Jodha and Akbar.?., two beings who WENT PAST all barriers, and unshackled every tradition...Their journey is Unique for that time, and even in today's world, for they blended 2 faiths to reach the true SELF...Spirituality is not merely following customs and traditions of a religion,{ hence i am NOT talking about this topic} although that helps too. It is an inner awareness of one's connectedness with a higher, call it God or Collective or Source or Life Force, some call it the Ultimate Soul, etc...Another aspects, can be Gratitude, Compassion and empathy...These 2 virtues are the true spiritual bridges. When we feel for another person and connect with him/her, we are indeed connecting to the "spiritual realm" . Only a "genuinely" spiritual person can "truly" feel another's pain and pleasure. And if you can do it, then you are spiritual, whether or not you "believe" in spirituality...For me BELIEVING in Spirituality or not is different than, whether you are spiritual or not...B'coz one may NOT be knowing that he has taken a spiritual route, but may be PASSIVELY following it..😊 Gratitude opens a floodgate of inner peace, and thereby spiritual awareness. Just take note of what we do in our daily lives. Take note of the blessings. Bless the food we eat. Make a list of things we are grateful for. All these will open us up, and bring us closer to experiencing peace and awakening. When we are grateful for everything from our food to our life, we are acknowledging the presence of a Universal Energy and welcoming more positivity into our lives..Isn't this called spirituality.?.In modern times, we all are told by our teachers/elders, etc to maintain a diary and note our daily happenings in it, and told to learn and DERIVE some meaning from it...Same thing happened in OLD times, when Kings used to have many chroniclers with them..Isn't this something on the lines of spirituality.?. Here we are learning something...Isn't it.?. The cause is NOBLE, that is we are exploring where we went wrong...I also want to talk about the Spirituality and Rationalism in this case, in this context i remember Akbar's rational views and Einstein's also...Both, refer to Spirituality in "Rational context"...But that can be "out of scope"..Lets leave it...


Hence, in my sense, Spirituality is a wide subject and we can explore as many dimensions as possible..😊...You see, that there can be various facets of this ONE word, and i'll be very happy if the Creatives are able to rope in even an "iota" of the above qualities in Jodha Akbar...I have seen episodes where the Creatives nailed this ESSENCE perfectly...Does anyone remembers these scenes.?.
1. When Jalal was against Jodha's faith conversion..
2. When he removed the Pilgrim Tax..+.. Jodha's reaction in Amer when he removed the pilgrim tax..
3. Jodha-Hamida convo, after jalal gets well, after the Tiger attack..
These scenes were different...And, they were NOT about "normal talks of tolerance" , but the execution and dialogues in these scenes were par excellence...Sometimes the CV's really shock us with such stuff...I wish, that DEEP thinking and finely "grained" dialogues are again given back to the Leads... The RAW Material is present in this post, and i think this can be conveyed to the CV's (albeit in a easier to understand manner.😉)

Thanks for bearing with this long post...I hope this made SOME sense...
This is my wishful thinking for our Jodha Akbar.!!.



Good post! You nailed it xD. Yes. I have never heard of any other Queen delivering twins. I want to see the track when they lose the kids and how they have each other for support. Spirituality is a WIDE arena. Cannot be discussed by mere mortals like me 😆

Hope the CVs portray it well because they have done it in the past. They have given us AMAZING scenes. Yes. All the scenes you enumerated, were really awesome ones! Hope those people out there know and use their own talent.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: najma123


Good post! You nailed it xD. Yes. I have never heard of any other Queen delivering twins. I want to see the track when they lose the kids and how they have each other for support. Spirituality is a WIDE arena. Cannot be discussed by mere mortals like me 😆

Hope the CVs portray it well because they have done it in the past. They have given us AMAZING scenes. Yes. All the scenes you enumerated, were really awesome ones! Hope those people out there know and use their own talent.



Thank You for the views..I hope we get the same as you said, instead of the much feared MU which has made many of us restless..The Creatives are capable of showing things in an amazing manner. And, i wish they do justice to it.

BTW, ONLY We all Mortals can discuss spirituality. Coz The Immortals personify this spiritual aurora..LOL.😉

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Originally posted by: lasyap3


Nice post Akka⭐️

Just as treasures are uncovered from the earth, so virtue appears from good deeds, and wisdom appears from a pure and peaceful mind. To walk safely through the maze of human life, one needs the light of wisdom and the guidance of virtue.

Indeed Jodha and Jalal are pure souls😳


Beautifully said Lasya .

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