JA: Journey To Eternity Updt Pg 1,7

Thanks for this thread Radhika😃

UNRes..

Hi all,

I will not go to Rumi this time(he is the King of Spirituality), and neither will use any of the theories pertaining to this topic, because Spirituality applies to all of us differently...We all perceive and look at it in different manner...I am jotting down whatever came to my mind i free flow...It's again an UN-edited Version...Pardon the errors, if any...

When i look at J-J's journey, it appears quite different to me...They lived in that era where they did not have all those amenities which we have today..No an iota of difference of opinion here that, they were the MOST RICH and powerful personalities of their times...Not all are Akbar and not all are MUZ and not all are SOUL-MATES as Jodha-Akbar...Someone said - "With greater powers come greater responsibilities"...I would go a step further and add one more line in this in JJ's context -- "With greater powers come greater responsibilities and ALSO GREATER TROUBLES" ... No doubt, Jalal was in a powerful position, hence he was always the NISHANA of his enemies...Poor Man...Had to FIGHT against his OWN Kinsmen, and faced betrayal...Be it Adham, Sharif, MA, Munim, Bairam, MC Begum...Don't want to write more on this, but this list is Endless and went on increasing till he ruled..!!!...

Sochkar hi ajeeb aur bura lagta hai ki, those people, had to lose so many kids in infancy...Those days when the Empire had many successors , Mughal Empire was an exception...Salim came quite late... The Birth of Twins, even today, creates so much pleasure and evokes celebrations of a different KIND...Imagine, those days, i have NOT heard, any Queen delivering twins...😊... I can not imagine the amount of emotional trauma, JJ had to bear after losing them...Mazak wali baat nahi hai > those people lost their 4 kids back to back.. !!!! And, twins included in that...

Ok...Coming back, i want to say that, a person.?.He/She may be powerful to any extent, but there are some "WOUNDS" , the remedy for which is NOT the superficial materialistic comforts and power, but "Spirituality" ... The Royals had many means of entertainment, be it singing, dance, shikar(hunting), elephant fights, trophy wars, etc., or "Aankh Micholi and Kabutarbaazi 😆" , and many other means...But some losses and deep scars of life can not be healed by these means...They need something else...I guess, here is when Spirituality comes into picture...

Spirituality, for me is a UNDEFINED DOMAIN..😊...And, i can justify my stand, as there are many shades to this WORD...We can go on an on and keep writing on this issue...So, here i go...>>..I think it is the personal transformation in accordance with "certain" ideals which are BOUND to result in our psychological growth, as it denotes the realm of the inner life, that is, the purity of motives, affections, intentions, inner SELF, and the the analysis of one's feelings... In laymen terms, it may be a kind of blissful experience... It can be also seen as a process of re-formation which "aims to recover the original SELF of man"...and is often seen as a blend of humanistic psychological growth, along with mystical and arcane happenings..We all know JJ's "Tryst with Spirituality" and their COMBINED trips to Sufi Saints/ Mystics (Ajmer Sharif, Agra Dargah, Shri Gusainji Ashram, etc..I think these will be shown in our serial..😃..I and KDR81 have mentioned these in our OLD threads..)..If we combine these trips as a PROOF of their Spiritual Journey, then this topic will also include the ethos of mysticism, perfection, devotion and piety...Infact, it relates to the mental aspect of life, contrasted with the material and sensual aspects...Coming to the other side of coin, it can also be accorded a social meaning along with the psychological aspect(described above), because it is the spark which leads one to a journey to attain more secular beliefs, and hence has got to do a lot with our social outlook...I can prove each of these words attaining the maximum meaning in Jodha-Akbar's context...Socially, Psychologically, Mentally, or many aspects which i am writing below...Take Social - And you get the doctrine of secularism getting past the 'treadmill', thereby helping in the Creation of a Better Nation, and this fabric was responsible for the flourishing Mughal Empire in Akbar's time...😉.Hukumat Taaqat ke dum par nahi ki ja sakti...Kuch der ki liye kar sakte ho par zyaada waqt ke liye nahi..These BIG things are often rooted in such small aspects which we tend to ignore...Take Psychological/Mental - And you find a Fountain of Strength Emerging within, which gives you a MEANS to get past the MOST Traumatic Situations of your lives...I want to give examples, but again i am restraining myself.!.

I would also like to mention that, Spirituality has NOTHING to do with a religion...Often, it is confused with religion.. I can give countless examples in this regard, but that may be "out of scope"..😉 .. Hence, only writing normal passages today...{ Those who want to know on this, can Google for "SBNR", and you will know what i mean here..😊 } .. Still, can there be a BIGGER example than OUR OWN Jodha and Akbar.?., two beings who WENT PAST all barriers, and unshackled every tradition...Their journey is Unique for that time, and even in today's world, for they blended 2 faiths to reach the true SELF...Spirituality is not merely following customs and traditions of a religion,{ hence i am NOT talking about this topic} although that helps too. It is an inner awareness of one's connectedness with a higher, call it God or Collective or Source or Life Force, some call it the Ultimate Soul, etc...Another aspects, can be Gratitude, Compassion and empathy...These 2 virtues are the true spiritual bridges. When we feel for another person and connect with him/her, we are indeed connecting to the "spiritual realm" . Only a "genuinely" spiritual person can "truly" feel another's pain and pleasure. And if you can do it, then you are spiritual, whether or not you "believe" in spirituality...For me BELIEVING in Spirituality or not is different than, whether you are spiritual or not...B'coz one may NOT be knowing that he has taken a spiritual route, but may be PASSIVELY following it..😊 Gratitude opens a floodgate of inner peace, and thereby spiritual awareness. Just take note of what we do in our daily lives. Take note of the blessings. Bless the food we eat. Make a list of things we are grateful for. All these will open us up, and bring us closer to experiencing peace and awakening. When we are grateful for everything from our food to our life, we are acknowledging the presence of a Universal Energy and welcoming more positivity into our lives..Isn't this called spirituality.?.In modern times, we all are told by our teachers/elders, etc to maintain a diary and note our daily happenings in it, and told to learn and DERIVE some meaning from it...Same thing happened in OLD times, when Kings used to have many chroniclers with them..Isn't this something on the lines of spirituality.?. Here we are learning something...Isn't it.?. The cause is NOBLE, that is we are exploring where we went wrong...I also want to talk about the Spirituality and Rationalism in this case, in this context i remember Akbar's rational views and Einstein's also...Both, refer to Spirituality in "Rational context"...But that can be "out of scope"..Lets leave it...


Hence, in my sense, Spirituality is a wide subject and we can explore as many dimensions as possible..😊...You see, that there can be various facets of this ONE word, and i'll be very happy if the Creatives are able to rope in even an "iota" of the above qualities in Jodha Akbar...I have seen episodes where the Creatives nailed this ESSENCE perfectly...Does anyone remembers these scenes.?.
1. When Jalal was against Jodha's faith conversion..
2. When he removed the Pilgrim Tax..+.. Jodha's reaction in Amer when he removed the pilgrim tax..
3. Jodha-Hamida convo, after jalal gets well, after the Tiger attack..
These scenes were different...And, they were NOT about "normal talks of tolerance" , but the execution and dialogues in these scenes were par excellence...Sometimes the CV's really shock us with such stuff...I wish, that DEEP thinking and finely "grained" dialogues are again given back to the Leads... The RAW Material is present in this post, and i think this can be conveyed to the CV's (albeit in a easier to understand manner.😉)

Thanks for bearing with this long post...I hope this made SOME sense...
This is my wishful thinking for our Jodha Akbar.!!.

Folks, I have just tried to extend my previous post in one of the Abhay's previous threads,which is this---

you know Radhika I was watching post Tiger attack track...I again went back to those days...golden days...the first boat ride, Jalal covering her head with dupatta, JJ in khema, Jalal's constant teasing (BEST😆), Jodha retorting back, JJ in Amer, Jalal putting conditions to apply lep, his oohs-aahs, Jodha's embarrassment, Jalal bowing head before Maa Kaali, Jalal winning back the fort and gifting it to Sukanya...and those surreal BGs!!!! OMG it was so beautiful...everything was so beautiful...the costumes, dialogues, locations, scenes, makeup, BGs...JA was at its royal best!

plz someone call zee and ask them to play our fav BG music ...uff missing it so much.. soulful music it was.. but they r not using this music nw a days ...plz ask them to make that magic again// look those days... they dint have any physical relationship but yet thir journey was so beautiful with that BG music ... ufff ...that music really create a magic with our royal couple AKDHA/... we r missing that BG score and plz bring them back...😳

Congrats firstly for starting this wonderful thread... Why were JA soulmates ? simply because

"Two people who have a spiritual connection are not just properly aligned, like puzzle pieces that fit together side by side; they bond.That's why love is often called chemistry" when you combine certain elements, they combine together to create a new unified whole...a single entity...Spiritual connections are usually perceived on a much deeper level. Once sparked, you feel closer to the person in question, the way you feel about your family and other permanent people in your life. It can be almost like you've known them forever on some level...

When you spiritually connect with someone, it usually goes beyond sharing interests, hobbies, religion, political ideologies, education or things like that. When you connect spiritually, you realize you share deeper things" values, principles, a way of looking at the world or a particular point of view.

It goes deeper than your surface needs or earthly desires. A spiritual connection is when you're souls are attracted to each other and are in sync."
Our JA love story has reached this level... I feel ... the era of epic love story has begun...

Originally posted by: lasyap3

Thanks for this thread Radhika😃

I would love to know your view about this...

People say often that SPIRITUALITY is TOTALLY different from ETERNITY. Yet, I say that these are TWO most important elements of life.

My personal hunch is that these are INTERLINKED. 😉

LOVE also present in this TRIANGLE of three vertices, the other two being the above qualities I mentioned.

"There are a hundred trillion cells in the human body," she said. "And every single one of the cells of my body loves you. We shed cells, and grow new ones, and my new cells love you more than the old ones, which is why I love you more every day than I did the day before. It's science. And when I die and they burn my body and I become ashes that mix with the air, and part of the ground and the trees and the stars, everyone who breathes that air or sees the flowers that grow out of the ground or looks up at the stars will remember you and love you, because I love you that much."

Firstly for attaining a seat in the train of journey to Eternity, love is the ticket.Love is that divine emotion, pure bonding between two hearts and souls.

The idea of the soul is that it is eternal and that it continually receives from an Eternal Source. So the idea in any relationship is never really what you can get from it; but the idea is what you can give to the other, what you can put into it. Withdrawing from eternity" and depositing into the physical realm. Of course, as you both give, you are also both receiving from one another, thus a beautiful relationship is formed and maintained. It's that certain flow that needs to be encouraged and allowed. I say "allowed" because it's natural, however, it's usually not "allowed" because our human faculties are taught and bombarded by stupid ideas in magazines that relationships are all about what one can get from it; it's never about giving! So in a nutshell, the idea is to give because you know that you are receiving from an Everlasting Source, but to also remain graceful and eager enough to also receive gratefully from the other. And this is how eternal relationships are born. We are all conduits of eternity and we happen to meet another conduit whom we feel we belong with, then we share what we receive from eternity and receive what the other has to share."

What if, there is halt in this journey, somebody tries to pull the emergency alarm in the train?Then remember these words-

"Forgive the past. It is over. Learn from it and let go. People are constantly changing and growing. Do not cling to a limited, disconnected, negative image of a person in the past. See that person now. Your relationship is always alive and changing."

The below words sum up everything😉. This is a perfect equation for the balance between the triangle.

"It takes three to make love, not two: you, your spouse, and God. Without God people only succeed in bringing out the worst in one another. Lovers who have nothing else to do but love each other soon find there is nothing else. Without a central loyalty life is unfinished."

Now, the real question comes,

How these two elements, SPIRITUALITY and ETERNITY are connected😉

Here is my concluding explanation---

To reach, the output called ETERNITY, LOVE is the algorithm and SPIRITUALITY is the logic or constraints.(Oh my God?, my obsession to programming😆) .

wonderful post dear...👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏