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Posted: 11 years ago
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Radhika wonderful post..

BB is just selfish women, what matters her is her family that is shariff only... That's why instead of disclosing shariff truth before Jalaal, he praised him saying he too great care of her silent seeing Shariff OTT leeching on her bhabhi a pregnant women...

Even though I understand her fear to save her child, but what Shariff said yesterday is correctly she didn't disclose the child truth when he is taking her before Maulavis before rasam... How can BB didn't think that Shariff will pardon her facing the BIG insult before all..

Why CVS are showing JO dumb when shariff is touching her ? I can understand his leeching in the dark room , his desire to kill Jalaal and make JO his Begum...

But I just want the truth will disclose before all instead only Jalaal get to know the truth..

Now friday Jalaal will get BB slapped by shariff & how much he hate a girl child... May be new law or Jalaal will give some share to the baby girl behalf of mamu jaan.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek


Radhika,

Nice Post...I loved reading it...It's good that we both are touching upon Different aspects of the Serial...

To answer your query, without inviting any trouble , let me reply in short...

1. Whatever you have written about the Protocols is absolutely True...

2. No buddy, there is NO Evidence to suggest that Sharif did all this "lecherous(can i get a better word to express my anger😊) stuff of hand holding" and went to her hojra for his Night Trips..

3. HK, being a DIGNIFIED lady -- " Uske Haath ko Chuna to Dur, Uski Parchai ko bhi Chune ki Himakat nahi kar sakta Koi.."..



Following Post...>>>
I have written all this in a free flowing manner and i am sorry if there are any errors in this writeup...I repeat , i simply went with the Flow...


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First of all hearty congratulations to all of "US" here.. ;p
Do i need to tell the reason.?. Arre...We stood at FIRST position for 2 consecutive weeks in the TRP race, and i am really happy that DABH went down. ( Sorry, i am HUGELY biased towards JA serial..) ...

Also, Hats Off to the Crew of JA for giving us such good Episodes Last Week..Except MA's act, it was a NO-nonsense presentation.. *Claps* ... I think they can learn a message that even the TRP Audience ENJOY well-chalked out / directed scenes, devoid of FILLER scenes..

Filler Scenes se yaad aaya, Did anyone Notice that - Atleast now, we do NOT get the faltu scenes of Javeda-MA, or Resham-MA-Javeda which used to take away lot of screen space earlier..??..Aur, Resham se yaad aaya, that MA's servant can attack Akbar / or Sharif...Let us see how this happens...

This week started with Jalal pledging to renounce his throne, and he had to be reminded of WHO HE WAS, by his Wife... I did not like "certain aspects" of that episode due to too much crying of Jalal (courtesy-Creatives of JA) , but i appreciate that Jodha acted in tandem that time...She was JUST OK...She did not cross the line and stayed true to "HER" WORD to "HIM" the last night(when he burnt the throne), that she will be with him in every facet of his life...They are "2 Dil Ek Jaan"...{ Where is Tamy.?.😆.. You can Explain this...No need to quote Rumi today..😉 }


Friends,
I am majorly predicting what CAN HAPPEN in coming Epidodes, based on what is happening in the Episode + spoilers ""coupled with my understanding"" , which the CV's are following, albeit in a dramatized manner...Akbar break down after MA's EXPOSE...More shocking will the fact if he comes to know that his Kids were 'eliminated' by his Foster Mother(who calls him his son, yet cursed his UN-Born Twins.!!..) ... Though, considering the flow of events as per today's episode, it seems that MA's Track has been put on a back-burner as of now..(She is not going away soon..Right now we are witnessing Sharif's track..)...I think at the end of this track, Akbar will announce equal share in property for Girl Child also...'Coz the Zee's tagline also says that J-J will fight "Ling Bhed", i.e., "Gender Bias"..

Either Sharif "OR" MA's servant can be shown attacking Akbar..Akbar getting wounded "seriously" ... And, we all can expect some TLC scenes.. 😉 Before that, Sharif's flight from Agra...We were given a HINT in this regard, when Akbar announced in DEK that Sharif will get the Subedari of Nagaur...He will revolt from there only...We hope, that some War sequences will be shown to us... { CV's have some mercy on us...Atleast koi jung to Dikha do..!!!!!. } .. And then, we all know from JA movie that Sujamal will be eliminated from the scene(though i do not think he will be shown supporting Sharif in his revolt OPENLY)...But all this, will happen "Slowly"..As Twins Demise track also needs to come in picture and we have to witness the Salim Chisti's trip too after the demise...CV's do show it as it is only...

Note :: >>
After reading all this, do you think that there "STILL" can be any chance of a Leap in JA to Salim-Anarkali.?. ROFL... It seemed to be a totally Non-Sense "Afwaah"..

BTW, i have mentioned all this^^^^ in my last episode discussion thread already..


Well.!!!!. Coming to Today's Episode...The Episode was Nice enough...


Jodha:: "Hota Wahi Hai, Jo Ishwar ne Socha hota hai.."

Stayed True to her Character and her Words to Jalal the other night, when she said >> "Hota Wahi Hai, Jo Ishwar ne Socha hota hai" . This reminded of of the Jodha of "Akbar-The Great Serial".. I really wish, CV's give her the same dialogue and she AGAIN EMERGES as Jalal's Strength, after the demise of Twins, and makes him understand the same that all this is no due to MA's curse...Though, it will be Difficult for her also...{.But just hoping.}...

Jodha's Stand before Ruqs about, Why should Birth of a Female Child should not be welcomed, reminded me of Salim's daughter, whose Birth had been celebrated with great pomp by Mariam Makani, Hamida Bano Begum, by announcing a GRAND FEAST...I think, this shows that these people were well ahead in their thinking those times also and hence Jodha's act today was TOTALLY JUSTIFIED as far as i infer based on my understanding, and i have given the example above...Jodha was just perfect, and achi baat yeh hai ki, she was not made an " Human Rights activist" by the Creatives, that too, ALL ALONE.. Salima Begum was equally present to give the example of Razia Sultana, who ruled Delhi...Ruqaiya was also correct as far as she thinks - that a Male Child sits on the throne...But Jodha and Salima's stand was based on the NOTION that " NOTHING IS A WRITING ON THE WALL " ... And, hence they quoted some examples in this regard... Salima Begum's example about Paigambar Sahab was again a good point raised by the CV's...

You know friends, i am loving this aspect of the CV's... They are routinely invoking some spiritual and divine aspects from both the cultures...Last time it was a Shloka of Jodha and now an example of Salima Begum...And, after that Jodha gave one example from Ruqs' culture only about the Female Child(which i could not understand)... {{ NOTE THAT ALL THIS WAS SHOWN IN THE SERIAL BY THE CREATIVES OF JODHA AKBAR, HENCE I AM WRITING THIS.. }}


Jalal:: "Ek Sipahi apni Taaqat/Kamjori samne wale Sipahi ko kabhi nahi batata , aur aapne to wahi galati kar di Raja Sahab.."

OMG..!!!!...Kya Bolun Main..??...The scene where he acts in a subtle YET calm manner during the negotiations with the Rival King bore a Striking Similarity with Bruce Lee's composure in 'Enter the Dragon(1970's.?.)' , before that Last Fight in the Room of Mirrors...I don't know how many know about him or how many know the scene i am talking about in that movie...But, really Jalal's face resembled that LOOK in the scene...He knew that HE HAD won the BATTLE before FIGHTING it..The "Killing Calm Ferociousness" was evident on his face...

But i request CV's to be a bit "realistic" in their measurement when they give dialogues pertaining to number of soldiers and elephants concerned... ;p
Also, i request them , to show and give respectable (if not Equal) treatment to the BRAINS of Rival Kings also...


Is this the NEW Beginning.?.

1.

The FAMOUS Duo of Akbar and Man Singh has started to take shape now...When Man Singh was LEFT to decide the terms of Negotiations with the Rival King, while Akbar left...Such was the degree of belief/warmth between Man Singh and Akbar...I remember Man Singh's Dialogue to Jalal in DEK that - "Agar Amer ki Sena Bhi hamare samne aa gayi to bhi humari talwaar aapke liye uthegi.." Oh Man..!!!..Hats Off and Salutes to your Loyalty and to your WORD to YOUR Shahenshah...How can i forget you are the same person to challenge and fight to the LAST MAN STANDING, with Mirza Hakim despite NEGLIGIBLE forces... This man really means a LOT to me... For his FIERCE LOYALty to Akbar...

Along with the famous duo, i am eagerly waiting for the FAMOUS TRIPLET of Man Singh-Akbar-TodarMal...And today , these three were present during the negotiation talks... I request the Creatives that they develop this BOND further, and also BRING BACK Raja Bhagwan Das...I know the actor playing BD has left, hence the CV's are not bringing him in the picture, but without BD, Akbar's "Team" looks incomplete....Lets hope that some good actor will be roped by the PH to play Bhagwan Das...


2.

Along with this, Jodha and Salima Begum have developed a like minded thinking on almost all matters...This is another relationship developing within the precincts of the Mughal Harem...It will be very interesting to see , how this "friendship" is moulded in future..!!..



About The Rest of Episodes this Week / Future ::

The precap has decided the fate of future events...Jalal is informed by Jodha that, BB delivered a girl, and hence he will come to know the "A-Sharif" acts of "Sharif" with BB...And, then Khauf-e-Jalal..The Wrath of a Brother Coupled with the Sense of Justice of an Emperor, is going to RIP Apart the Ever-'Deserving' Sharif.." I am just waiting for him getting stripped of powers and his subsequent flight to Naguar/Ajmer Suba...And, the Future Track we all know...I wish CV's do not try their Over-Dramatization here...

Overall, as i said before, i DO BELIEVE, that the CV's are taking care of their show (barring few non-sense scenes, like not following some protocols, esp. how DARE Sharif touched/rubbed against Jodha's hands.?.)...

Till now this week was nice for me...It contains an equal partnership of the Wise thinking of an Empire expanding Emperor ABLY supported with a maturely thinking Empress...

So friends, how was your experience today, and what you all feel for the Future Episodes..?...





Wonderful post Abhay... Hope Shariff leeching will not disclose before all in a disgraceful manner..Waiting to see more of Jalaal-Maansingh & TM and politics along with harem..
Edited by abhi786 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You know friends, i am loving this aspect of the CV's... They are routinely invoking some spiritual and divine aspects from both the cultures...Last time it was a Shloka of Jodha and now an example of Salima Begum...And, after that Jodha gave one example from Ruqs' culture only about the Female Child(which i could not understand)... {{ NOTE THAT ALL THIS WAS SHOWN IN THE SERIAL BY THE CREATIVES OF JODHA AKBAR, HENCE I AM WRITING THIS.. }}


Jalal:: "Ek Sipahi apni Taaqat/Kamjori samne wale Sipahi ko kabhi nahi batata , aur aapne to wahi galati kar di Raja Sahab.."

OMG..!!!!...Kya Bolun Main..??...The scene where he acts in a subtle YET calm manner during the negotiations with the Rival King bore a Striking Similarity with Bruce Lee's composure in 'Enter the Dragon(1970's.?.)' , before that Last Fight in the Room of Mirrors...I don't know how many know about him or how many know the scene i am talking about in that movie...But, really Jalal's face resembled that LOOK in the scene...He knew that HE HAD won the BATTLE before FIGHTING it..The "Killing Calm Ferociousness" was evident on his face...

But i request CV's to be a bit "realistic" in their measurement when they give dialogues pertaining to number of soldiers and elephants concerned... ;p
Also, i request them , to show and give respectable (if not Equal) treatment to the BRAINS of Rival Kings also...

Abhay again good post, i always write, He is a Learner King, Now he is Becoming A BLANCE + GOOD, King.


, First, Jallad, Then Jalal, Next Akbar, But Why we called, Akbar The Great Akbar.

So first, Akbar is changing in to Akbar The Great. How, it showed yesterday Episode

A king who was Rude, only knows Fight & win over the world. Now thinks, War side effects.
war can only destroy., he thinks now.

He tried even MC+AM when tried to attack, he wants to choose Peaceful Method, But Failed.

but He again tried this method.

1, He respects, Rajvancies,it cleary shows, his Growing+Decent behivour, which will hep him
making of Akbar the Great.

2, Siphahi siphahi Hota hee, Raha sahib,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Now he knows, imp of Life, few days we saw, he is withboutdrawing, for King Post,;;;;;;;;;;;;;but Now he is behaving like a BLANCE KING,
which is necessary.


3, He clears about his vision, he wants, Everybody will live in peaceful way+united, way,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So its a Big Achievement. No body fear from me, everybody, live their place in Peaceful manner;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So this poilcey Akbar adopted, & RULED OVER INDIA.
its a simple start now,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but we see Transperentely,;;;;;;;;;;;;Back bone is jodha;;;


4, He cleared his Power, in front of Rajvancies. so Now they should decide. What they want.

5, Scene was amajing, Jalal body Language, +Speaking Language. & Without Anxioty, he was talking,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;How much this Person is changing ?.,

6,Jalal realtionship is changing, between TM +MS clearly showed.

7, How much jalal is waiting, for Own kids,or How much imp, is his Neice for him, so as a King, +as a Human he too much changed;;;;;;;;;;;;;So things are changing, in Jalal's Life.

This scene was Jaan of the Episode.


Sharrif point.

Sharrif knows, BB speaked Lie, but his problem was that, His all dreams, going to be Fail.

He wants to kill jalal, if Boy borns, He will sit after sharrif throne, because Ruk words was,

a BOY can sit on Mughal empire.


HB, salima, all female Gang in BB hozara;

1 Liked jodha said to BB, she should say her Talk. Because BB stoped Jodha to tell anyone.

2, jodha told HB, or Salima, Bakhsi, is speaking Lie, because sharrif not want this, so as a Mother,, HB responsibity was Big;

a, She said, she should not speak, Lie in front of, Sharrif, Why she not realised or ask BB actual reason hiding this news.

b, Sharrif was speaking to much, front of HB, why HB not feeled doubt,Sharrif behaviour.

c, Why any women not think atonce, Which is the big reason speaking lie for BB.

d, Everyone was, saying BB, but too much faith on sharrif, not digest.

Acc to precap, jalal will took action, against sharrif.

He will recalled, BB, Face was why Red ? so hinting, Sharrif +jalal gap is coming, but seeing point is this;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;BB where stands.

Ruk +jodha +salima talks;


1, Talks were good.

2, liked jodha words, When you & me were borned;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Out parent should be sad
No;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;because daughters are also very Brave+important,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Where women respects,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Where live, DEVATS.👏 👏 👏 👏.

3, Salima gave ex,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Rajiya Sultana,;;;;;;;;;;;;;if we see,MC, HB, also in good posts.

4, But one was confusing;

a, Ruk words were, A Boy can sit on Mughal empire.

b, When jodha said, HB is own MUM, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but Ruk ans was HB is not MUZ, MUZ will who, Who will birth, a Boy child,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but jalal is a BoY child?

c, Is MUZ is bigger than MUM.?

Or new Tweet,😕.


Is Sharrif +Jalal Gap is hinting,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Sharrif attack, where Sujamal will save, Jalal.

so Reshem attack, +sharrif attack, +Jodha delivery on the floor

Edited by ayushimehra - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: al_pal

Tammy I appriciate ur views , but let's agree to disagree here . Status does not matter here girl is weak on her own or for that matter strong on her own , wether she is princess or common girl , status does not help u with ur innermost fears . In bb's case she was widow in very early stage , by grace of god and becoz she has brother link jalal , she got second chance which was not common at that era, so no matter what she is holding on to it ,she is afraid of being alone again or going through that pain again , so I am not blaming her .and I am so sure every one is not jalal , for that era male ego was to big , even today . Bb is typical case of domestic abuse - she needs help and people around her need to realize her fears ,her plight

I know yaar...aisa nahi hai ki I dont understand her mental state...but I cannot support her behavior..I know she fears of being alone, but that certainly doesnt mean she has to take all those lashings by her husband! aise pati hone se akele rehna 100 times behtar hai..there r other ways to handle such situation but definitely not tolerating silently.
BB is a typical case of domestic abuse...but she has power unlike majority...she can use it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267


@red- jab jab Jalal roya tab tab TRP badhi😆 TRP aunties love to see the hero crying😛 kabhi Tulsi/Parvati/Prerna thi ab Jalaluddin Mohammad hai😉

@blue- kya Abhay tum bhi😆 mere romantic rooh ko mat jagao...waise yeh jagi hi rehti hai😆
JJ r the living example of "do dil ek jaan"☺️

@pink- I feel MA will be alive till twins death...she herself will gloat how she killed the unborn kids..varna usse zinda rakhneki koi wajah nahi dekhti main..esp. Jalal is yet to learn this truth!

@green- Zee said Resham will attack Jalal...I cant see Jalal getting wounded badly😭😭 I demand a full week of TLC from Jodha☺️☺️

@violet- there is a spoiler pic of war field..Jalal and Sharifu were there...so there is a war seq...matlab Shari will revolt and Suja will shield Jalal and in the process he will die😲 or will Sharifu kill Suja?😕



Tamy,
I have not seen the spoiler pics, but if they are out then they surely point towards one thing - A war is in offing...And, i THINK that Suja will perish while defending Jalal...Let's see what happens...

PS -- Nice comment. I came to know about Tulsi/Parvati of the "K-fame series" of Ekta Kapoor from this forum... ab yeh Prerna kaun hai, i don't know...😉

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Radhika good post.

I don't feel much sympathy for BB. She is weak and scared of her husband - get that. However, why should a woman who is pampered silly by her family - whose brother is the Shehenshah and who dotes on his sister - should feel this insecure?

Actually when BB gave birth to daughter this was the BEST time to tell the truth to SD. BB's entire family was with her including Jalal and HB and no way SD would have dared to do anything in front of them. If SD had even shown sorrow about getting a daughter Jalal would have corrected his opinion.

BB would have been far safer with telling the truth to SD in front of everybody immediately. Now not only is SD even more upset at being lied to and feeling like a fool, BB also has made everybody upset.

BB does not think about anybody but her own self. She did not care about Jalal or if Jalal might have killed Jodha in rage during the fake pregnancy plot. What if Jalal had sent Jodha away never knowing the truth?

Jodha got SD out of jail for her sake but BB feels no guilt at being rude with Jodha. Would BB ever dare to behave this way with Ruk? Of course not! Just cos Jodha is nice to BB, she behaved extremely rude and boorish with Jodha.

How did BB think she saved her daughter's life if she was worried about it? She should have confided to HB long before. BB and SD are dependent on Jalal for everything but have no loyalty to Jalal, not even BB.

When SD had told BB Jalal might not come back alive from war, BB was hardly bothered!

BB is the kind of person who doesnt' care for those who love her and runs after SD who is treating her worse than a doormat.

Shouldn't her daughter have given BB some spine? Atleast for her daughter's sake she should stand upto her husband. She just let him take the baby for circumcision!

About SD nothing worthwhile to say! I just wish CVs stop the cheap SD leech after Jodha track NOW! Jodha is pregnant with twins and his leeching after her is just 🤬 That surang to Jodha's hojara known only to SD is just yuck!

BTW - RUK is blasting BB for telling LIES?!!!!!!!! Look WHO is talking about truth!!!
Ruk was smoking hukka in front of pregnant Jodha!

WHEN are we going to see Ruk's REAL FACE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY TRACK.

BB can go spend her life with slap happy husband wherever who cares? If even after having Jalal for a brother and entire support system does not make her grow a spine for her daughter's sake she is just not worth thinking about also.




Maddy,

I am very confused about BB's Case..But one thing, about which i have clear opinion is that, BB belongs to the MOST PowerFul Kingdom of that time, and her brother is a Shahenshah...She does not deserves this treatment, considering the amount of clout her brother wields, and she herself is a Royal Princess... She is BLIND when it comes to HER Sharifuddin Sahab. Had it been a normal case(considering 16th Century) , one can debate this, but her case is different..She is the sister of the Emperor..Still suffers so much...

I remember, how much strictness and concern Jalal had shown for Sukanya's future during her marriage...He is well capable to handle this Sharif also...Provided BB tells the truth to him..


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Originally posted by: history_geek




Maddy,

I am very confused about BB's Case..But one thing, about which i have clear opinion is that, BB belongs to the MOST PowerFul Kingdom of that time, and her brother is a Shahenshah...She does not deserves this treatment, considering the amount of clout her brother wields, and she herself is a Royal Princess... She is BLIND when it comes to HER Sharifuddin Sahab. Had it been a normal case(considering 16th Century) , one can debate this, but her case is different..She is the sister of the Emperor..Still suffers so much...

I remember, how much strictness and concern Jalal had shown for Sukanya's future during her marriage...He is well capable to handle this Sharif also...Provided BB tells the truth to him..


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Abhay, I think, BB afraids, If sharrif, will not Leave her.She knows Sharrif not loves her.
But because she suffered, Widow, difficulites before, She not wants to suffer again, But Sharrif is misusing this Point.

She not sharing this to Jalal, Because she knows the result. she knows, Sharrif will not improve. she knows knowing jalal this things, Her Marriage life is end.

Agree Jalal can handle Sharrif, but First jalal knowing is neessary. Second, Jalal cant do anything, Couple realtionship,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;BB +sharrif realtionship, only depends, Sharrif wants Jalal Takhat. BB wants sharrif, But BB is attached this realtionship. Sharrif Nothing standing, anywhere. Sharrif side No attachment, Suppose if he will get Agra takht, even he Can Kill BB.

Ruk +Salima not understands BB problem. Salima,was loved by BK,Ruk knows How to Pamper Jalal, or How to pamer, Own through Jalal. she knows How to Use the situations.
But BB, is first sielance Girl, second Widow, Pain she suffered, Third, No body Pampered her. She knows without Husband side effects,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So she is bearing. I know this is Wrong,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But if we comparsion to 21 cen;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Is it not realty.

But if we see this point 16 cen, When jalal knows sharrif reality, BB +sharrif realtion Finished
Because Sharrif cheapness increaseing day by Day;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;or it Was BB who decided, sharrif punishment,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So time is coming.?

In jodha Akbar movie BB was also shown Preussurise. BB confidence level is very low.

But one ques,Coming in my mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Is sharrif will try to Harm BB child that will become cause,BB, & Sharrif Gap.

But sharrif was forgiven three times. is BB +sharrif, will go another place. Then sharrif will plot again.😕



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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Charu fabulous post 👏👏👏
You have underlined BB's plight so wonderfully.

I hope what Ekta and CVs are trying to show here is BB did nothing to help herself. Keeping quiet and facing abuse in the hope that it will stop is just a wrong way to deal with it.

Just imagine if Jodha had not learnt the truth about BB getting a daughter - if she had not inadvertently revealed it to SB then the support system BB has got now in HB and all the ladies - BB would not have got.

Can we imagine if SD after learning the truth from Ulemas had not come in to find HB and all ladies there how he would have reacted? The same way he reacted when he unleashed his violence on BB. Maybe even more violently.

By keeping quiet and taking the violence till date BB was only harming herself now she is going to harm her own daughter. I have read of instances when women faced upto abuse and violence but found the courage to oppose it and ask for help when their children got subjected to it. Wish they show BB grow some spine now for her daughter's sake!

What way by keeping quiet does BB help herself? I wish instead of showing BB cowering so much atleast for her daughter's sake BB had told SD that she will not let him harm her daughter. She has the support of her entire family most importantly Jalal with her. If she had opened her mouth in front of her family, SD would not have become to brazen.

I hope they show that by keeping quiet as victim - BB did wrong, she should have asked for help and support of her family.

It is fortunate that Jodha and ladies found out, even then when they questioned her BB should have confided her reasons instead of keeping quiet. I am dreading that BB might beg Jalal to pardon SD instead.

Doesn't BB realize by her keeping quiet SD is becoming more brazen and openly leeching at Jodha in front of her. Previously he would atleast pretend but now due to BB's cowering he has even stopped this.

I hope Jalal can make BB understand that SHE has to help herself first and asking for help is not going against her husband.



Thank you Maddy .

I also fear BB 's interference with Jalal's punishment for SD . I do not want him be walking free , pardoning his mistakes would be a crime in itself . I would hate to see Bakshi quoting her previous widowed status and her becoming "be-sahara" without Lecheruddin as the reasons to forgive him . He needs to be punished severely .

If the Creatives show him as being pardoned , then the very purpose of showcasing the sensitive issues of spousal abuse and gender discrimination will be defeated . It would also portray Akbar as a foolish an incapable emperor . Hopefully nothing of that sort happens .
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Hi @ALL
I wish to thank everyone for absolutely amazing views on a subject I didn't think would interest too many. 😊

Please excuse me I do not have enough time to reply to everyone. I wish to post a common response - my views on the subject. Please continue your discussions. I will join in when I can. 😊

I just want to thank Ms. Ekta Kapoor for highlighting Nari Shakti through various tracks and varied female characters. She has shown different types of feminine mindsets / attitudes as well as highlighted certain social problems related to women and girls that are quite prevalent even today.

When we see the extent of the problem and realize how difficult it is to eradicate them completely because it involves changing age-old mindsets and thinking, we can better appreciate how difficult it must have been for Akbar to try and solve these problems, such as child marriage, widow remarriage, giving girls a share in ancestral property, etc.

Let us salute this great man and the woman who inspired him to look beyond empire building and supported him in becoming socially responsible.
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Originally posted by: history_geek


Radhika,

Nice Post...I loved reading it...It's good that we both are touching upon Different aspects of the Serial...

To answer your query, without inviting any trouble , let me reply in short...

1. Whatever you have written about the Protocols is absolutely True...

2. No buddy, there is NO Evidence to suggest that Sharif did all this "lecherous(can i get a better word to express my anger😊) stuff of hand holding" and went to her hojra for his Night Trips..

3. HK, being a DIGNIFIED lady -- " Uske Haath ko Chuna to Dur, Uski Parchai ko bhi Chune ki Himakat nahi kar sakta Koi.."..



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I have written all this in a free flowing manner and i am sorry if there are any errors in this writeup...I repeat , i simply went with the Flow...


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First of all hearty congratulations to all of "US" here.. ;p
Do i need to tell the reason.?. Arre...We stood at FIRST position for 2 consecutive weeks in the TRP race, and i am really happy that DABH went down. ( Sorry, i am HUGELY biased towards JA serial..) ...

Also, Hats Off to the Crew of JA for giving us such good Episodes Last Week..Except MA's act, it was a NO-nonsense presentation.. *Claps* ... I think they can learn a message that even the TRP Audience ENJOY well-chalked out / directed scenes, devoid of FILLER scenes..

Filler Scenes se yaad aaya, Did anyone Notice that - Atleast now, we do NOT get the faltu scenes of Javeda-MA, or Resham-MA-Javeda which used to take away lot of screen space earlier..??..Aur, Resham se yaad aaya, that MA's servant can attack Akbar / or Sharif...Let us see how this happens...

This week started with Jalal pledging to renounce his throne, and he had to be reminded of WHO HE WAS, by his Wife... I did not like "certain aspects" of that episode due to too much crying of Jalal (courtesy-Creatives of JA) , but i appreciate that Jodha acted in tandem that time...She was JUST OK...She did not cross the line and stayed true to "HER" WORD to "HIM" the last night(when he burnt the throne), that she will be with him in every facet of his life...They are "2 Dil Ek Jaan"...{ Where is Tamy.?.😆.. You can Explain this...No need to quote Rumi today..😉 }


Friends,
I am majorly predicting what CAN HAPPEN in coming Epidodes, based on what is happening in the Episode + spoilers ""coupled with my understanding"" , which the CV's are following, albeit in a dramatized manner...Akbar break down after MA's EXPOSE...More shocking will the fact if he comes to know that his Kids were 'eliminated' by his Foster Mother(who calls him his son, yet cursed his UN-Born Twins.!!..) ... Though, considering the flow of events as per today's episode, it seems that MA's Track has been put on a back-burner as of now..(She is not going away soon..Right now we are witnessing Sharif's track..)...I think at the end of this track, Akbar will announce equal share in property for Girl Child also...'Coz the Zee's tagline also says that J-J will fight "Ling Bhed", i.e., "Gender Bias"..

Either Sharif "OR" MA's servant can be shown attacking Akbar..Akbar getting wounded "seriously" ... And, we all can expect some TLC scenes.. 😉 Before that, Sharif's flight from Agra...We were given a HINT in this regard, when Akbar announced in DEK that Sharif will get the Subedari of Nagaur...He will revolt from there only...We hope, that some War sequences will be shown to us... { CV's have some mercy on us...Atleast koi jung to Dikha do..!!!!!. } .. And then, we all know from JA movie that Sujamal will be eliminated from the scene(though i do not think he will be shown supporting Sharif in his revolt OPENLY)...But all this, will happen "Slowly"..As Twins Demise track also needs to come in picture and we have to witness the Salim Chisti's trip too after the demise...CV's do show it as it is only...

Note :: >>
After reading all this, do you think that there "STILL" can be any chance of a Leap in JA to Salim-Anarkali.?. ROFL... It seemed to be a totally Non-Sense "Afwaah"..

BTW, i have mentioned all this^^^^ in my last episode discussion thread already..


Well.!!!!. Coming to Today's Episode...The Episode was Nice enough...


Jodha:: "Hota Wahi Hai, Jo Ishwar ne Socha hota hai.."

Stayed True to her Character and her Words to Jalal the other night, when she said >> "Hota Wahi Hai, Jo Ishwar ne Socha hota hai" . This reminded of of the Jodha of "Akbar-The Great Serial".. I really wish, CV's give her the same dialogue and she AGAIN EMERGES as Jalal's Strength, after the demise of Twins, and makes him understand the same that all this is no due to MA's curse...Though, it will be Difficult for her also...{.But just hoping.}...

Jodha's Stand before Ruqs about, Why should Birth of a Female Child should not be welcomed, reminded me of Salim's daughter, whose Birth had been celebrated with great pomp by Mariam Makani, Hamida Bano Begum, by announcing a GRAND FEAST...I think, this shows that these people were well ahead in their thinking those times also and hence Jodha's act today was TOTALLY JUSTIFIED as far as i infer based on my understanding, and i have given the example above...Jodha was just perfect, and achi baat yeh hai ki, she was not made an " Human Rights activist" by the Creatives, that too, ALL ALONE.. Salima Begum was equally present to give the example of Razia Sultana, who ruled Delhi...Ruqaiya was also correct as far as she thinks - that a Male Child sits on the throne...But Jodha and Salima's stand was based on the NOTION that " NOTHING IS A WRITING ON THE WALL " ... And, hence they quoted some examples in this regard... Salima Begum's example about Paigambar Sahab was again a good point raised by the CV's...

You know friends, i am loving this aspect of the CV's... They are routinely invoking some spiritual and divine aspects from both the cultures...Last time it was a Shloka of Jodha and now an example of Salima Begum...And, after that Jodha gave one example from Ruqs' culture only about the Female Child(which i could not understand)... {{ NOTE THAT ALL THIS WAS SHOWN IN THE SERIAL BY THE CREATIVES OF JODHA AKBAR, HENCE I AM WRITING THIS.. }}


Jalal:: "Ek Sipahi apni Taaqat/Kamjori samne wale Sipahi ko kabhi nahi batata , aur aapne to wahi galati kar di Raja Sahab.."

OMG..!!!!...Kya Bolun Main..??...The scene where he acts in a subtle YET calm manner during the negotiations with the Rival King bore a Striking Similarity with Bruce Lee's composure in 'Enter the Dragon(1970's.?.)' , before that Last Fight in the Room of Mirrors...I don't know how many know about him or how many know the scene i am talking about in that movie...But, really Jalal's face resembled that LOOK in the scene...He knew that HE HAD won the BATTLE before FIGHTING it..The "Killing Calm Ferociousness" was evident on his face...

But i request CV's to be a bit "realistic" in their measurement when they give dialogues pertaining to number of soldiers and elephants concerned... ;p
Also, i request them , to show and give respectable (if not Equal) treatment to the BRAINS of Rival Kings also...


Is this the NEW Beginning.?.

1.

The FAMOUS Duo of Akbar and Man Singh has started to take shape now...When Man Singh was LEFT to decide the terms of Negotiations with the Rival King, while Akbar left...Such was the degree of belief/warmth between Man Singh and Akbar...I remember Man Singh's Dialogue to Jalal in DEK that - "Agar Amer ki Sena Bhi hamare samne aa gayi to bhi humari talwaar aapke liye uthegi.." Oh Man..!!!..Hats Off and Salutes to your Loyalty and to your WORD to YOUR Shahenshah...How can i forget you are the same person to challenge and fight to the LAST MAN STANDING, with Mirza Hakim despite NEGLIGIBLE forces... This man really means a LOT to me... For his FIERCE LOYALty to Akbar...

Along with the famous duo, i am eagerly waiting for the FAMOUS TRIPLET of Man Singh-Akbar-TodarMal...And today , these three were present during the negotiation talks... I request the Creatives that they develop this BOND further, and also BRING BACK Raja Bhagwan Das...I know the actor playing BD has left, hence the CV's are not bringing him in the picture, but without BD, Akbar's "Team" looks incomplete....Lets hope that some good actor will be roped by the PH to play Bhagwan Das...


2.

Along with this, Jodha and Salima Begum have developed a like minded thinking on almost all matters...This is another relationship developing within the precincts of the Mughal Harem...It will be very interesting to see , how this "friendship" is moulded in future..!!..



About The Rest of Episodes this Week / Future ::

The precap has decided the fate of future events...Jalal is informed by Jodha that, BB delivered a girl, and hence he will come to know the "A-Sharif" acts of "Sharif" with BB...And, then Khauf-e-Jalal..The Wrath of a Brother Coupled with the Sense of Justice of an Emperor, is going to RIP Apart the Ever-'Deserving' Sharif.." I am just waiting for him getting stripped of powers and his subsequent flight to Naguar/Ajmer Suba...And, the Future Track we all know...I wish CV's do not try their Over-Dramatization here...

Overall, as i said before, i DO BELIEVE, that the CV's are taking care of their show (barring few non-sense scenes, like not following some protocols, esp. how DARE Sharif touched/rubbed against Jodha's hands.?.)...

Till now this week was nice for me...It contains an equal partnership of the Wise thinking of an Empire expanding Emperor ABLY supported with a maturely thinking Empress...

So friends, how was your experience today, and what you all feel for the Future Episodes..?...




Good post Abhay!😊 I was so happy to see JA on 1st position. But honestly, I have lost interest in the show. I don't know why. The Atifa track was damn interesting. I haven't watched the episodes in long. Firstly, Jalal should get new clothes. That itself is irking me. Secondly, Bakshi is someone I don't like much. I am happy this track is getting closed in a week. I can't handle more of rona dhona. Anyways. Nice post Abhay!

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