Birbal & JA Twins Entry, Ruq Downfall Sep 27 Updt Pg 60; DTNTPg15 - Page 46

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Posted: 10 years ago

This entire track Jalal has been disappointing - a callous husband to a pregnant wife who has undergone so much. Somehow I feel again we will end up feeling disappointed about Ruk punishment.

We might end up getting Ruk's sobbing and HER pov shoved on us.

I felt disappointed with yesterday's episode. There was nothing much from Jalal's side towards a wife he loves deeply and had fulfilled his most cherished dream - at a great risk to herself. Jodha and the babies could have died!

Did Jalal show a single reaction like
I am so glad you are safe our babies are safe.
I am sorry I was not there for you and you had to face this harrowing time alone
You are so brave and I am proud of you
You have made me so happy

NOTHING!

Jalal gifted Jodha with some cheap trinket putting her amongst everybody else!
She is the mother and he gave her cheap gift - it would have been better if Jalal had simply said there is no gift I can give you for the priceless gift you have given me. I just want to say thank you and you have made me happy.

Jalal is just pathetic nowadays, she was always there for HIS weak moments and he was not there when SHE NEEDED him, but forget saying this - he did not even understand or acknowledge it!

Totally disappointing episode, the positive bits were like we had to find them with a microscope.

PS : I did not like Jodha going around doing samaj seva again but probably it has something to do with the track and since twins did not survive long they have to rush this track.

Totally disappointing episode - considering that we know what is to come, they could have made just this ONE episode about Jodha Jalal and their babies - not shoved Ruk for 20 out of 22 mins!



Very well said Maddy .. Completely agree with you ... Right from atifa/kyber tarck ,there is a change in demeanor of Jalal .. He is made to look more callous and its really disheartening .That'y i was so disappointed on monday and yesterday i expected him to say something on the lines of post benazir track when he gifted fatepur sikri.. but we just saw a gift to all scene...and y is ruq shown in each and every scene now?

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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi Radhika,

A completely unexpected episode .. From the precap and yesterday's scene i expected an episode abt twin separation issue ,instead we got a political episode .A Good episode from political front but would have liked it better if it has not been made as a ball of between two begums, Now every single scene between jo and ja has ruq and don't know how long we got to bear this but loved jo giving back to ruq .Liked Birbal today and would love to see what he does tomorrow .The questions he raised was impactful. But I Couldn't understand Y all of a sudden this jizya tax track is introduced?. Is it done to turn munimkhan negative and join sharif in some plan?
P.S
I didn't like the way that lady talk to jo ., Her whole body language and the way she put forward her pbm was so bad... I Understand that the lady is deeply pained and hurt but somehow it didn't come out like that ...


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Posted: 10 years ago
Today would be an interesting episode to watch guys...
JWW

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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi akka...
The story have taken an interesting turn. For many it is just another track, another glorification of Jodha or Akbar's next political change. There are many saying why is it Jodha and not anyone else? Well the feeling is there in Todarmal, Maan and many other Hindus but not all have the shield of love from Jalal to protect against if at all they oppose with fierceness. Sadly some does not care or even aware of this issue simply because they want to stay away from trouble. And Shanthi like people are just helpless and have given up. It is not that they are forced to convert to Islam. No... it is an option to escape being subjected to unjust law just for the fact you are borned as a non-mughal. This has nothing to do with money nor religion. But only politics. Many might wonder why Jalal have not felt it. One because he is the king and two he was never been at the receiving end on this discrimination issue. It can be argued that Jodha too was never been subjected to this law hence how can she feel about it. Here is where many are mistaken. It is not the amount of money or the tax itself is the sole matter. The actual feeling runs more deeply. It's the feeling of being outcasted by the very mother they love. Here mother refers to the mother land. You love your motherland and very proud to be a part of it. But alas due to the ruling party who are not of the same origin you feel not belong there. Unfortunately the more u love it the more u feel abundant. This is why Jodha was first had hatred for Mughals. Since Jalal is head of the Mughal kingdom and had married her who this very reason has made her to direct her hatred towards him. Later she learned to separated Jalal and the law. Thus now the hatred had died down and endless amount of love have replaced it. But that does not mean she will not feel the hurt pain when ever she come across same issue. When she is in a position capable of bringing a suitable change then why not she protest. So, she does now with the help of Birbal in a manner where it will not hurt Jalal.

I'm not saying that Jalal is wrong. Infact I admire him all the more to actually stand up for fair and just. Not succumb to easy way out, that is purnishing the small( hindus) because some home truth come to light to satisfy the big(Mughal). Divide and rule is always easy way to rule a country by having different rules and law for different community. But not all will consider to make the difference by taking the hard way, being equal to all. And its time for Jalal to wake up and smell the coffee. He have to clear up the mess created by his ancestors. And every one knows he can and he will that is why he was Akbar.

The solution is not abolishing alone. Replacing the word Hindus in the rules with all the citizens can do the magic. But of course other loop holes must be taken into account when old one is amended.

Akka, this is the reason why I was actually started loving JA. There is no Jodha to bring a change nor Akbar who can look beyond race and religion. But there are still Shanthis who are helpless and some time I feel like one. I love Jodha alot because I know and have felt the same feelings in this front but she actually fought it successfully. Sorry akka, my writhing has become personal but this is the first time I have voiced out the frustration existing since a long time in me.

And again only the one who are standing on fire will know the heat, that's why Jodha felt it.

P.S: Sorry if it hurts anyone sensitivity.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


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Posted: 10 years ago
Thank you😳
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Posted: 10 years ago


Radhika, Its 25 sep episode, (thursday )

Episode was little better Yesterday.Yesterday i liked, Jodha Braveness, she is Own facing,

as, a Hindu,second class treatment. If she not raised this Voice, Yesterday, She + All Hindhu People, suffered a Lot; previous, & present;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;& Akbar Not becomes, Akbar The Great.

Two regliions, Combinding, is not a Easy Job.& Broadness always takes its Cost. But Sometime, Mirror, showing is Necessary;

1, Jodha Own started, To Pay Tax;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;I will Pay Tax. Naturally, as a Husband, Jalal will feel pressurise,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But ques is Not Jodha will pay or Not, Ques is You want to Expand your kingdom, You can marry Hindhu Girl, But You

You Can't give her freedom. This is troubling, Jalal. Because In Hindustan, Jalal Own knows Power of Ragvancies, His Poicey, is United All, & Rule, But All Is spreading. If He not abloishes, this Tax,Hinduies, internal, goes against, jalal, that is Not Good for Kingdom. If He Abloishes, Muslim, Go Against, Jalal;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So This Line is Very, Delicate, Cross For Jalal.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Naturally he will cross this line,

Ruk Wants to become Muz, Heir, has Come, If Jalal Now listen, again Jodha, This Is Defeat for, Ruk,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So she is, Creating Problem.


1, Is Bigger, journey is Easy, No, i liked, Jodha Show indirectely, Jalal, The Next Way, Now You where standing you Choose;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;your Path. own, way.

2 ,liked, Jalal words, Jodha Begum, you Can't defeat.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Its feels, Jalal knows, Jodha

Talk is not Light Mooded Its Weight. or He not see Now, her Jodha begum Defeated,👏 👏


3,Birbal, Moto is, Slouate these thing, By, Brain, +way Which needed this time Jalal.

4, Sharrif, +father, Ulama, all knows, if this Tax, Abloishes, Jalal will become, Wide King, then there power will be More Less.


5,But this faith of Jodha, Will give her, Title of, Muz, or others which she deserves. Only Rule we can't do, Power in hands, but, Useing of Brain also be needed.jodha showed it.

6, In this Way, Two relgion, will come clousear, from Heart, Jodha is thinking, Wide, But Others narrow thinking, is a Obstacle.

7, Now Jodha Sons will pay tax, How this effect, Jalal seeing Point is This.?😆 😆

8, Tensen +Birbal, Nok Zhonk was Light Hearted.⭐️ ⭐️ No Body is Less.

9, Tarjoou, secene, Targoou, is Famous for Justice, Jalal is standing confusing, state of Mind,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Not listening Jodha, Also, So Birbal Will do Some slouation.😆 😆

10, Now Intercaste marriage will going to Expand staze, Physically to Parents Parents to King Queen, journey, & King & Queen always, Honest, Hardworking, ( transperent ) likeable.


11, Jodha Involved, Shanti Matter shows, Queens Feels pain for Others, & When Birbal,
Shows, Thousands Hindus, Jalal also felt Pain,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Its a King +queen pain
is Ruk feeled that,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So Broadness is choosing their Own way.

12, In ths way, Monoply, of One relgion will be finish, others will feel respect, in Mughual Era,Respect of jalal will be increase. Credit goes to Our Jodhu.



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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu



I completely and totally agree with you Maddy .

Shouldn't there have been a private celebration between Jalal and Jodha ? For a king who was desperately looking forward to the arrival of his twins , he disappointed me big time by not even giving her an intimate look that expressed an unsaid thank you . If Hamida begum could acknowledge that Jodha had lost a lot of blood during labour and birthing , why didn't Jalal show any concern ?
That gift giving scene got me hopping mad . Jalal treated Jodha like any other queen and 'handed' her a piece of jewelry for a job well done.His gift for her should have been something special , shared with her privately .
Jodha should have been seated on a specially decorated throne Blessed and congratulated for giving the Mughal kingdom and ruler his first children .
I do not want to see Shaguni Bai . She foresees only troublesome news . That lady scares me.
Rukaiyya does NOT need to take care of Jodha . Moti 😡( traitor for praising Rukku😡 ) and Zakira are enough to take care of the babies .
JALAL NEEDS TO SPEND TIME WITH JODHA, NOBODY ELSE .
I am hoping and actually praying that the Creatives don't show Jalal being lenient with his punishment for Rukaiya . If Jodha pleads with him to go easy on her , HE SHOULD NOT LISTEN . JODHA, PLEASE DO NOT SHOW "UNDERSTANDING" and "FORGIVENESS" to Rukaiyya .PLESE DO NOT STAND UP FOR HER CAUSE . She DOES NOT deserve it .


Maddy, Charu,

Sorry for the very late response. 😭

Yesterday, Jalal made up a little, though not completely yet, for the way he treated Jodha earlier during her pregnancy and immediately after delivery. 😊

Charu, @blue I think Jalal and Jodha will be forced to punish Ruq in spite of their natures if she harms the waaris to the Mughal throne.


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Posted: 10 years ago

I may be wrong but I think in a way the precap and the lady scene is connected.

nice post..
@bold: I too think so but not sure how though..

Thx Sindhu . and we got our answer today which we all never expected ,a political track(Jizya Tax abolition). and there by create an MU between Ruq and Jo .

Prav, (would love to know your real name, if it's OK 😊 )

It was not an MU, it was a confrontation between Jodha and Ruq. Ruq is conservative and unwilling to disturb the status quo. Jodha is liberal and always ready to challenge established norms. Jalal, who is himself progressive and visionary, therefore prefers the radical Jodha and the firebrand navaratnas to the old conservative guard.

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