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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Prav

I am so glad you finally posted! Don't be sorry. What can you do if the episode was bad?

Cheer up and feel free to write whatever you feel from your heart. 😊

I haven't seen the episode yet. From what you tell me, it must have been really disappointing and I can understand your sentiments. But I guess you know by now how the CVs love to butcher AkDha. So I just ignore all the bad things done to them by the CVs and focus only on the positive.

So the twins are born already?! Great. I hope you have seen the promo where Jalal is holding them proudly. 😊

Keeping fingers crossed the track ends soon and we are spared this emotional torture. Stay positive. 😊 The Birbal episodes should be happy and bright ones.


Sorry for the late reply ... The IF troubled me a lot.Finally read abhay's solution and it worked.Thx abhay for that .Loved your take .. Usually i try to be positive . I can take NR's and even can keep the logics out but the deal breaker for me is when the very essence of a character is tarnished and that's y i felt so let down..I understood CVs wanted a big OTT drama of the childbirth and thats y kept jalal out of the picture ,But for me they could have achieved it in better ways.
1. They could have kept jalal completely in the dark abt the hakims visit ,its not new for ruq to not ask permission and would have been insync with her character ... then the dek scene would have made sense
2. if they do want to built up ruq ,the least they could have done is jalal could have shown to be concerned and could have atleast sent maansingh to check if they are still at hakima's place only ..Not only jalal's even maan singh and todarmal's response seemed luke warm
But I was glad that atleast in today's episode everyone seems to be insync with their character ..
The episode was not magical as it should have been as it is a very important milestone in JA's life..For some time i have been wishing to see this moment and in my dream I always expected a very grand welcome for the birth of twin with the whole agra rejoicing it . May be the cvs are reserving it all for salim's birth as he is the future emperor.,but i wished ulta .. As these children already have only a very short span i wished those moments are filled with so much happiness,
Though the episode was not magical,one shot was sheer magic and i loved that picture perfect shot of a jo and jalal cuddled with their precious twins and that made my day in otherwise a gloomy agra.
i also liked the cute scenes between jalal and jo . and also liked the fact that maansingh accompanied jo to the mandir.Recently he is getting more footage and would be happy if he gained more prominence I don't care abt shaguni bai and with ruq i'm already resigned to the fact that like maham we will never truly see the end of her .Yes she may be punished but only for that particular deed ... so i have learned to ignore ruq's presence and just see the love between both jo and ja ...With that perception ruq scenes were not that bad ,she was in sync with her character be it the possessiveness or her demanding the child as the precap. But what i was more interested is the scene of that lady ... I may be wrong but I think in a way the precap and the lady scene is connected. I would wait and see if the wins will be separated .I hope not because there should be a reason for ruq to do something big right? as far as now i see no reasons...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Rashmi,

I don't know about you but I behave just like a 7-year old with my son. 😛
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: prav2


Sorry for the late reply ... The IF troubled me a lot.Finally read abhay's solution and it worked.Thx abhay for that .Loved your take .. Usually i try to be positive . I can take NR's and even can keep the logics out but the deal breaker for me is when the very essence of a character is tarnished and that's y i felt so let down..I understood CVs wanted a big OTT drama of the childbirth and thats y kept jalal out of the picture ,But for me they could have achieved it in better ways.
1. They could have kept jalal completely in the dark abt the hakims visit ,its not new for ruq to not ask permission and would have been insync with her character ... then the dek scene would have made sense
2. if they do want to built up ruq ,the least they could have done is jalal could have shown to be concerned and could have atleast sent maansingh to check if they are still at hakima's place only ..Not only jalal's even maan singh and todarmal's response seemed luke warm
But I was glad that atleast in today's episode everyone seems to be insync with their character ..
The episode was not magical as it should have been as it is a very important milestone in JA's life..For some time i have been wishing to see this moment and in my dream I always expected a very grand welcome for the birth of twin with the whole agra rejoicing it . May be the cvs are reserving it all for salim's birth as he is the future emperor.,but i wished ulta .. As these children already have only a very short span i wished those moments are filled with so much happiness,
Though the episode was not magical,one shot was sheer magic and i loved that picture perfect shot of a jo and jalal cuddled with their precious twins and that made my day in otherwise a gloomy agra.
i also liked the cute scenes between jalal and jo . and also liked the fact that maansingh accompanied jo to the mandir.Recently he is getting more footage and would be happy if he gained more prominence I don't care abt shaguni bai and with ruq i'm already resigned to the fact that like maham we will never truly see the end of her .Yes she may be punished but only for that particular deed ... so i have learned to ignore ruq's presence and just see the love between both jo and ja ...With that perception ruq scenes were not that bad ,she was in sync with her character be it the possessiveness or her demanding the child as the precap. But what i was more interested is the scene of that lady ... I may be wrong but I think in a way the precap and the lady scene is connected. I would wait and see if the wins will be separated .I hope not because there should be a reason for ruq to do something big right? as far as now i see no reasons...


nice post..
@bold: I too think so but not sure how though..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Rashmi,

I don't know about you but I behave just like a 7-year old with my son. 😛

😆
In our house that is done by daddy dearest for him.😛
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chitterati


What to do Sindhu, my blood is boiling with the apparent apathy in JA, just when I somewhat recover from the nuisance in one episode, cvs strike a bigger blow! I was hoping to finally see so real Jo JA scenes with their kids, and again except 1 spilt sec - nothing. The only reason olive drunk today was, she appeared to be more concerned about the kids than anybody else. I mean how hard would it have been to show Jo caressing her babies...with expressions of sheer happiness and satisfaction on her face. I saw that beaming mother expression and enthusiasm in Ruk today,not in Jo ...Jo looks like this was her 10th baby, and although she was happy, she was just taking this in her stride !


Chitterati,

SIndhu is right.

Ruq may be beaming from ear to ear looking at the babies. But she doesn't see babies there. She sees MUZ title, the status of being the queen mother, and all that. She cannot even bear to see anyone touch her child because she is so particular that no one (not even Jalal) should have any right to her child. Lest her child does not feel any attachment to her and prefers someone else. Which can spoil her future party.

I would say if you have to hate anyone, hate the CVs. They glorified Maham during her exit. (Hell, we still see her in promos along with her curse.) And now they are putting a halo around Ruq's head. And butchering JJ mercilessly.

Yesterday, poor Jalal was made to laugh at Birbal's feeble jokes while appearing to be unconcerned about his pregnant wife being out in a terrible storm.

Today Jodha is being made out to be the uncaring mother who is staying far away from her babies and is adamant to fulfill her mannat asap even if it means leaving the new borns and going off.

I am not surprised by your reaction, Chitterati. This is the exact reaction the CVs want. They want the audience to LOVE Ruq and HATE Jo.

Tomorrow, they will show that Jodha got delayed, solving the suicide issue and Ruq took care of the babies in her absence. This will give Ruq ammo to demand her child, saying Jo is careless and cannot be trusted with her child. Audience will also agree with this.

I DO NOT foresee any Ruq exposure. Even if she is "exposed" a la Maham, she will be shown to be justified in what she has done or will do. Like Maham justified her actions as being guided by her love for Jalal and Adham. There will be no REAL punishment.

2. Anything related to vamps is stretched like elastic. See how many episodes were dedicated to Maham dying. Anything related to JJ is rushed. See how Jodha's return to Agra was rushed?

3. Even in the south, mothers do not normally go anywhere within 40 days. But the CVs are so illogical and totally unaware of customs that they can show anything. 🤢 It was shown only to give an excuse to Ruq to accuse Jodha of being a careless mother.

4. Jodha is a very generous soul. She has not a single selfish bone in her body. She is happy to let others enjoy the babies too, unlike Ruq who cannot let anyone even touch them. Jodha is how a mother should be. In those days, queens generally had help to look after babies. We saw 2 ladies who may be taking care of the twins for Jodha. Ruq's act is OTT. I do not even look at her anymore. 🤢

5. Ruq wants to put her plan in action asap. She cannot put on this act of being a goody -goody mother for long. So she will take her baby and then try to harm Jodha / other baby.

Yes, the episode was both good and bad, depending upon what we chose to see. I saw the babies and they were sooo cute. I fell in love with them immediately. 🤗

Be positive and cheerful. Let this track be over. Then we will have better tracks.


Edited by RadhikaS0 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: prav2


Sorry for the late reply ... The IF troubled me a lot.Finally read abhay's solution and it worked.Thx abhay for that .Loved your take .. Usually i try to be positive . I can take NR's and even can keep the logics out but the deal breaker for me is when the very essence of a character is tarnished and that's y i felt so let down..I understood CVs wanted a big OTT drama of the childbirth and thats y kept jalal out of the picture ,But for me they could have achieved it in better ways.
1. They could have kept jalal completely in the dark abt the hakims visit ,its not new for ruq to not ask permission and would have been insync with her character ... then the dek scene would have made sense
2. if they do want to built up ruq ,the least they could have done is jalal could have shown to be concerned and could have atleast sent maansingh to check if they are still at hakima's place only ..Not only jalal's even maan singh and todarmal's response seemed luke warm
But I was glad that atleast in today's episode everyone seems to be insync with their character ..
The episode was not magical as it should have been as it is a very important milestone in JA's life..For some time i have been wishing to see this moment and in my dream I always expected a very grand welcome for the birth of twin with the whole agra rejoicing it . May be the cvs are reserving it all for salim's birth as he is the future emperor.,but i wished ulta .. As these children already have only a very short span i wished those moments are filled with so much happiness,
Though the episode was not magical,one shot was sheer magic and i loved that picture perfect shot of a jo and jalal cuddled with their precious twins and that made my day in otherwise a gloomy agra.
i also liked the cute scenes between jalal and jo . and also liked the fact that maansingh accompanied jo to the mandir.Recently he is getting more footage and would be happy if he gained more prominence I don't care abt shaguni bai and with ruq i'm already resigned to the fact that like maham we will never truly see the end of her .Yes she may be punished but only for that particular deed ... so i have learned to ignore ruq's presence and just see the love between both jo and ja ...With that perception ruq scenes were not that bad ,she was in sync with her character be it the possessiveness or her demanding the child as the precap. But what i was more interested is the scene of that lady ... I may be wrong but I think in a way the precap and the lady scene is connected. I would wait and see if the wins will be separated .I hope not because there should be a reason for ruq to do something big right? as far as now i see no reasons...


Prav,

No issues. I am always running late with my replies and sometimes I never reply! 😊

I also faced problems with IF yesterday. That's when Abhay and I discovered the problem was with the cookies / cache.

Coming to your post. I will tell you frankly what the CVs game plan is.

They want to glorify Ruq and show how great she was. Just like they glorified Maham till the end and even now she is remembered daily in the show and promos.

For this, they are willing to massacre both JJ.

I also wish that JJ would be shown to enjoy these few days with their kids in an unrestrained manner. Without Ruq's constant shadow company. 😕

But that would be too much to ask for. ALready Ruq is asking for her baby. She can't even understand how important it is for a young baby to have mother's nursing. 😆

I feel that Jodha will stay back a bit longer to resolve the suicide issue. Ruq will use this as an excuse to claim that she cannot trust her child with Jodha who is careless.

The reason for Ruq to do something BIG was always there. She wants the MUZ title at any cost!

Do keep posting! Loved your take here.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Prav,

No issues. I am always running late with my replies and sometimes I never reply! 😊

I also faced problems with IF yesterday. That's when Abhay and I discovered the problem was with the cookies / cache.

Coming to your post. I will tell you frankly what the CVs game plan is.

They want to glorify Ruq and show how great she was. Just like they glorified Maham till the end and even now she is remembered daily in the show and promos.

For this, they are willing to massacre both JJ.

I also wish that JJ would be shown to enjoy these few days with their kids in an unrestrained manner. Without Ruq's constant shadow company. 😕

But that would be too much to ask for. ALready Ruq is asking for her baby. She can't even understand how important it is for a young baby to have mother's nursing. 😆

I feel that Jodha will stay back a bit longer to resolve the suicide issue. Ruq will use this as an excuse to claim that she cannot trust her child with Jodha who is careless.

The reason for Ruq to do something BIG was always there. She wants the MUZ title at any cost!

Do keep posting! Loved your take here.



@bold: Oh I never thought it could happen this way too. Oh my, Kya Kya dekna padtha hai. How sad..
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[BR][DIV]Chitterati,[/DIV][BR][DIV]SIndhu is right.[/DIV][BR][DIV]Ruq may be beaming from ear to ear looking at the babies. But she doesn't see babies there. She sees MUZ title, the status of being the queen mother, and all that. She cannot even bear to see anyone touch her child because she is so particular that no one (not even Jalal) should have any right to her child. Lest her child does not feel any attachment to her and prefers someone else. Which can spoil her future party.[/DIV][BR][DIV]I would say if you have to hate anyone, hate the CVs. They glorified Maham during her exit. (Hell, we still see her in promos along with her curse.) And now they are putting a halo around Ruq's head. And butchering JJ mercilessly.[/DIV][BR][DIV]Yesterday, poor Jalal was made to laugh at Birbal's feeble jokes while appearing to be unconcerned about his pregnant wife being out in a terrible storm.[/DIV][BR][DIV]Today Jodha is being made out to be the uncaring mother who is staying far away from her babies and is adamant to fulfill her mannat asap even if it means leaving the new borns and going off.[/DIV][BR][DIV]I am not surprised by your reaction, Chitterati. This is the exact reaction the CVs want. They want the audience to LOVE Ruq and HATE Jo.[/DIV][BR][DIV]Tomorrow, they will show that Jodha got delayed, solving the suicide issue and Ruq took care of the babies in her absence. This will give Ruq ammo to demand her child, saying Jo is careless and cannot be trusted with her child. Audience will also agree with this.[/DIV][BR][DIV]I DO NOT foresee any Ruq exposure. Even if she is "exposed" a la Maham, she will be shown to be justified in what she has done or will do. Like Maham justified her actions as being guided by her love for Jalal and Adham. There will be no REAL punishment.[/DIV][BR][DIV]2. Anything related to vamps is stretched like elastic. See how many episodes were dedicated to Maham dying. Anything related to JJ is rushed. See how Jodha's return to Agra was rushed?[/DIV][BR][DIV]3. Even in the south, mothers do not normally go anywhere within 40 days. But the CVs are so illogical and totally unaware of customs that they can show anything. [xx(]It was shown only to give an excuse to Ruq to accuse Jodha of being a careless mother.[/DIV][BR][DIV]4. Jodha is a very generous soul. She has not a single selfish bone in her body. She is happy to let others enjoy the babies too, unlike Ruq who cannot let anyone even touch them. Jodha is how a mother should be. In those days, queens generally had help to look after babies. We saw 2 ladies who may be taking care of the twins for Jodha. Ruq's act is OTT. I do not even look at her anymore.[xx(][/DIV][BR][DIV]5. Ruq wants to put her plan in action asap. She cannot put on this act of being a goody -goody mother for long. So she will take her baby and then try to harm Jodha / other baby.[/DIV][BR][DIV]Yes, the episode was both good and bad, depending upon what we chose to see. I saw the babies and they were sooo cute. I fell in love with them immediately.[>:D<][/DIV][BR]Be positive and cheerful. Let this track be over. Then .


...Radhika thank you dear n a very big hug for this awesome post, jaise sawan ki pahali baarish ki fhuhare tapti dharti or garmi se tadapte logo ko sukoon deti hai, waise hi ur words in this post gives me sukoon coz I dnt like how cvs butchering jodha n jalal's character for glorifying ruq n giving her too much screen space n coz of this some r blaming jalal for nt caring n loving husband of jodha n some r blaming jodha for being emotionless n careless mother n after reading all those post I m feeling sad n hurt coz I m a akdha lover n dono me se kisi ke liye bhi bura padhkar accha nahi lagta bt u point out real problem of this track very well that is ruq ka glorification by cvs on the cost of my akdha...thank u once again dear n love u...
Edited by jiya.k - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

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Chitterati,

SIndhu is right.

Ruq may be beaming from ear to ear looking at the babies. But she doesn't see babies there. She sees MUZ title, the status of being the queen mother, and all that. She cannot even bear to see anyone touch her child because she is so particular that no one (not even Jalal) should have any right to her child. Lest her child does not feel any attachment to her and prefers someone else. Which can spoil her future party.

I would say if you have to hate anyone, hate the CVs. They glorified Maham during her exit. (Hell, we still see her in promos along with her curse.) And now they are putting a halo around Ruq's head. And butchering JJ mercilessly.

Yesterday, poor Jalal was made to laugh at Birbal's feeble jokes while appearing to be unconcerned about his pregnant wife being out in a terrible storm.

Today Jodha is being made out to be the uncaring mother who is staying far away from her babies and is adamant to fulfill her mannat asap even if it means leaving the new borns and going off.

I am not surprised by your reaction, Chitterati. This is the exact reaction the CVs want. They want the audience to LOVE Ruq and HATE Jo.

Tomorrow, they will show that Jodha got delayed, solving the suicide issue and Ruq took care of the babies in her absence. This will give Ruq ammo to demand her child, saying Jo is careless and cannot be trusted with her child. Audience will also agree with this.

I DO NOT foresee any Ruq exposure. Even if she is "exposed" a la Maham, she will be shown to be justified in what she has done or will do. Like Maham justified her actions as being guided by her love for Jalal and Adham. There will be no REAL punishment.

2. Anything related to vamps is stretched like elastic. See how many episodes were dedicated to Maham dying. Anything related to JJ is rushed. See how Jodha's return to Agra was rushed?

3. Even in the south, mothers do not normally go anywhere within 40 days. But the CVs are so illogical and totally unaware of customs that they can show anything. 🤢It was shown only to give an excuse to Ruq to accuse Jodha of being a careless mother.

4. Jodha is a very generous soul. She has not a single selfish bone in her body. She is happy to let others enjoy the babies too, unlike Ruq who cannot let anyone even touch them. Jodha is how a mother should be. In those days, queens generally had help to look after babies. We saw 2 ladies who may be taking care of the twins for Jodha. Ruq's act is OTT. I do not even look at her anymore.🤢

5. Ruq wants to put her plan in action asap. She cannot put on this act of being a goody -goody mother for long. So she will take her baby and then try to harm Jodha / other baby.

Yes, the episode was both good and bad, depending upon what we chose to see. I saw the babies and they were sooo cute. I fell in love with them immediately.🤗

Be positive and cheerful. Let this track be over. Then .


...Radhika thank you dear n a very big hug for this awesome post, jaise sawan ki pahali baarish ki fhuhare tapti dharti or garmi se tadapte logo ko sukoon deti hai, waise hi ur words in this post gives me sukoon coz I dnt like how cvs butchering jodha n jalal's character for glorifying ruq n giving her too much screen space n coz of this some r blaming jalal for nt caring n loving husband of jodha n some r blaming jodha for being emotionless n careless mother n after reading all those post I m feeling sad n hurt coz I m a akdha lover n dono me se kisi ke liye bhi bura padhkar accha nahi lagta bt u point out real problem of this track very well that is ruq ka glorification by cvs on the cost of my akdha...thank u once again dear n love u...



agree with u Jiya. Its really torturing for Akdha fans. By glorifying Ruks they have really brought down JJ..

Radhika beautifully written


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



@bold: Oh I never thought it could happen this way too. Oh my, Kya Kya dekna padtha hai. How sad..



Liked reading all your thoughts Sindhu, Radhika , Chitte , and Prav ,
The Creatives are putting Rukkaiyya on a pedestal , BEFORE her great fall . We just have to be a little patient . Her love for the twins is not motherly love , its 'audhaly love' ( my own term 😉 ) triggered by their presence . Ofcourse she will show off great concern and affection , to prove an invalid point . We all know her asliyat . The great expose is just round the corner .

Jodha loves her babies very much , there is no doubt about that . She loves them simply because she cocooned them in her womb for eight months prior to bringing them into this world under horrendous circumstances. Why she is being shown active so soon after delivery is beyond my understanding . Normally after delivering one baby , the mother needs ample rest , no mother that I have seen has the strength to walk around leave alone make a trip to the temple and solve social crisis . Agreed that the trend these days is to send the mom home with baby after 48 hrs , but she is specifically asked to rest and not expose herself / baby to outsiders for fear of contacting something contagious until thirty days . This show is set in the 16th century. Those days the thinking and care were also more conservative .

Excepting for the adorable rotund babies , nothing about yesterday's episode was sensible . Even in this aspect , for being premature twins , individually they are quite big .

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