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Posted: 11 years ago
#61
Good post and beautiful write up Divi
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

to me too please...

Arrey no big deal

you know what Divi.. I LOVED this version no doubt at all 🤗 The sutble changes would have made it all different!

Thanks!

but really when have we NOT seen ja and jo overdramatize things in this serial?
Every small thing blows up into something big

A vachan to sujamal became a two month separation track.
A push from Jodha ended up in a near death experience from benazir
An intention to save khyber resulted in death of soldiers, destruction, badnaami, three days of adventure etc...

These were all relatively made up, recorded things ... I said na, I am so bothered because this is supposed to be momentous episode on justice and has now been clouded by a curse questioning that very justice

In comparison to all this, death of Atgah Khan is a real tragedy to strike a real man... yes, he is an emperor - but still a human too. And it's not like Jalal has always shown saintly/royal or superhuman traits na.. that's why i didn't find it too odd..
though they needn't have extended it uptil monday

Also, here I don't see anyone questioning Jalal's actions than the man himself - not Jodha, not us, not his family (except MA) So that just shows he is a man in grief now... a man with a conscience.. and a man who wants to be loved for himself rather than who he is! I think everyone is expecting too much from him😊

How I wish Friday was about Atgah Khan ... But it was about the curse ... And that is where I flipped.I think given he is drunk a lot of people did not pay attention to his logic or dialogues ... But remember the CVs are fully conscious,

If he had said, after having not saved Atgah Khan , I am not fit to be a Shehenshah ... I will leave that was another story. But here he is driven by his fear of the curse ... His final lament ... Is I cannot lose you and the kids and be alone ...

And don't believe Jalal? Who is one person who is saying his current behavior is because of Atgah Khan? On Friday, Hamida Bano says he is very upset by the curse ... We should not leave him alone. Jodha's consolation was addressed at the curse and so was her prayer to God. Hamida Bano was justifying him killing Adham Khan as justice. Everyone has forgotten Atgah Khan for a stupid curse

He has lost faith in his justice because of the curse and that too for a track that was supposed to be his example

Since we're discussing portrayals - here is a comparison of some other portrayals I've seen (of historical figures) While Jalal is not the first king/man in power to have people plotting against him, he is not the first king/man in power to go into depression and start questioning himself and his power either!

The Tudor series showed that when Henry Tudor lost his love (wife no.3 I think), he shut himself away for a period and the kingdom went into autopilot. They had to get a court jester and friend to get him out of his depression! He became near-mad!

His trusted friend and best commander duke of suffolk (as shown in the tudor series) never seems to be the same man/fighter after he witnessed the massacres in the North.

Ivan the terrible is said to have gone all beserk when he assumed he lost his wife as a result of court politics! Gandhiji is said to have 'become tired' when despite all the fights he fought for a free India and managed to free India from British, he couldn't solve the partition! He had immense resolute against the invaders, but when his OWN men were fighting amidst themselves, he gave up and gave his go-ahead for the partition - partition of a nation he'd fought for yearsss on end!

Have you watched Elizabeth (the Great) the golden age - the movie is not all about glorifying her. What she'd achieved for England then, very few ladies could have boasted of achieving for empires! Yet, the movie showed quite a few of her dark days, weak points - where she was resorting to foretellers/soothesayers etc to see what the future held for her. Here also, she was constantly at logger-heads with her cousin (Queen of Scots) and it had quite an impact on her peace!



Quite a few of these biopics/stories on politicians I've seen where the man reaches a point - fed up of the responsibilities and nearly ready to give up power - till a best friend/mate/soulmate reminds him why he's here in the first place. Many of these men have been touted great. So... 😳

If it was for Atgah Khan and not the curse ... I would find all these parallels valid. The CVs in essence shifted this track from grieving for Atgah Khan to something else. And that is not what I can forgive.

For me, the awaam are like children for a ruler ... (Jalal himself had said the same) and so to give up the children for your pain is a selfishness I cannot bear ... And that too for a stupid curse

If he had even said I want to go to Sikhri ... I am restless to see Salim Chisti. That would have made sense.

And the CVs did not even keep it private, they were gossiping on what had happened to the Shehenshah? That itself tells you the reverence the CVs have for royalty

I'm just glad to see you up and positive my friend 🤗


a group of CVs won't bring me down ...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chitterati


@bold: exactly, don't we as audience get fed up of watching all the negativity, plotting, scheming on this show enough to quit watching, that too when we have to endure it for what 20 mins...poor Jalal ki toh life is this, no wonder he wants to call it quits !!!


Maybe that is the difference with me ... Negativity / scheming never bothers me ... Only when Jodha and / or Jalal are out of character
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Good post and beautiful write up Divi



Thanks! Actually for that hug scene on Friday- "aaja piya tohe pyaar doon" is a perfect song ... Actually refers to aag as well
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: harrybird


Embarrassed ?😕

I thought he was pleading ! 😆

Babes,
NO Pee Pee...😭
NO Poo Poo...😭😭
Pappa has only 2 dresses...😭😭😭
Shower all your Love to Momma..she has plenty...Spare me my son ! 😉😉😉






Hilarious Anjali.

Jodha:- Guys you are out.I am so happy and relieved .Come on lets go for para sailing or bungee jumping .You know na ,Mommy is adventurous.
Jalal:-Why do I feel Sajid khan's " Hey baby " is a good movie now? Do I feel connected?
Edited by Rashmi81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm



Thanks! Actually for that hug scene on Friday- "aaja piya tohe pyaar doon" is a perfect song ... Actually refers to aag as well

Yup you are right .You took a perfect song.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: harrybird


Embarrassed ?😕

I thought he was pleading ! 😆

Babes,
NO Pee Pee...😭
NO Poo Poo...😭😭
Pappa has only 2 dresses...😭😭😭
Shower all your Love to Momma..she has plenty...Spare me my son ! 😉😉😉





One more for you Anjali.
Jalal:- they are here so early ?jo,we had just one ... And see the result .🤢
Jo:-EK c****m ki kimmat tum Kya Jano Jalal babu.Ab Bhugto.
Edited by Rashmi81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: harrybird


Embarrassed ?😕

I thought he was pleading ! 😆

Babes,
NO Pee Pee...😭
NO Poo Poo...😭😭
Pappa has only 2 dresses...😭😭😭
Shower all your Love to Momma..she has plenty...Spare me my son ! 😉😉😉





Hum diaper le chuke sanam 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: harrybird


Embarrassed ?😕

I thought he was pleading ! 😆

Babes,
NO Pee Pee...😭
NO Poo Poo...😭😭
Pappa has only 2 dresses...😭😭😭
Shower all your Love to Momma..she has plenty...Spare me my son ! 😉😉😉





Jodha's expression - Merawala yellow me hai, kuch bhi ho jaye, kisssiko pata nahi chalega 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Hilarious Anjali.

Jodha:- Guys you are out.I am so happy and relieved .Come on lets go for para sailing or bungee jumping .You know na ,Mommy is adventurous.
Jalal:-Why do I feel Sajid khan's " Hey baby " is a good movie now? Do I feel connected?



Triple trouble indeed 😆

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