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Okay ... let me share my feelings one last time 😆 I promise the post gets better after.

Why oh why is this track bothering so much? When I took every natkiya rupantar with a smile and laugh. Because I always understood natkiya rupantar was for drama ... And half the tracks were made up or spiced up for drama ... But here was a dramatic episode that was dramatic without any natkiya rupantar and the CVs ruined its essence to keep to their own version of drama. This time they have no excuse as it is a monumental piece of history and well recorded!

With Atgah Khan's demise and the punishment of Adham Khan ... Jalal should be sad and upset ... He should absolutely feel lonely without Atgah, he should feel guilty he could not save Atgah, he should be shocked at how far Adham and Maham Anga went, and he should also feel though he has done justice he is not at peace with himself ... Giving Adham Khan a harsh death, will not return his Atgah Khan to him.

He can feel weak, he can feel guilty, he can feel all these things ... but it has to be for the right reasons and he definitely cannot run away!

And that is why the curse and his monologue on Friday changed the whole essence of this track ...


- This was supposed to be him grieving for Atgah Khan, instead he is grieving for his own loneliness and fear of future loss from the curse
- What should have been a focus on Atgah Khan ... The focus shifted on the apne that were never his, particularly Maham Anga
- This was about Akbar doing justice ... But here everyone is questioning if what he did was just ... And Hamida Bano had to tell us today what he did was right
- This was about him sending a strong message to his enemies on how much his loyal meant to him ... Instead there is gossip on what has happened to the Shehenshah
- Actually, the CVs forgot about Atgah Khan completely!

Hence, you may wonder, how I, who took every natkiya rupantar in her stride, couldn't this time .. Because this time they could have followed history to the T and gotten to the same destination. And I can excuse Jalal for talking rubbish as he was drunk, but I cannot excuse the CVs for writing junk as hopefully they were not drunk! 😆

What I would have loved to see on Friday ... Jalal's frustration, pain, guilt, angst ... Followed by Jodha's solace that she would always been there for him (English translations in Italics)

Hence, you know I often take closure for a track by creating my own version ... so here is my take ... that will get us to the exact same destination

A frustration with the throne ... But not blaming it
... my version of Jalal's monologue to the throne:


Jalal: Yeh takth ... Yeh mere taaqat ka prateek hai ...
Tajoob khi baath hai jo maine apne maana - unone sirf meri takth or taaqat chaha
Aur mere paas taqth or taakath hone ki bawajood, jo mere apne the unko naa bacha saka
Aisi taqt , aisi taaqat ka kya fayda? jo apne ko mehfooz na rakshake

Jalal: This throne ... Is a symbol of my power
The surprising thing is ... Those I thought were my own, they only wanted my throne and power
And despite me having the throne And the power, I could not protect who were actually my own
What is the purpose of this throne and power, that cannot keep my own safe ...


And he burns the throne - out of pain and frustration with himself

Jodha self-thought at the same time (yes, if I can hear Jodha debate about the cruelty of his acts then I want her to reflect on his pain)


Jodha: Shehenshah, hum jaante hain is waqt aap bohath peedha mein hein ... Hum yeh bhi jaante kein aap akele is dardh ko bahaar nikaalna chahiye ... Lekin ab bohath hovgaya ... Hum aapko apne dardh mein akele nahin chod sakthe hein

Jodha: I know Shehenshah you are in a lot of pain ... but I know you need to face this pain alone and release it ... but now it is too much ... I cannot leave you anymore.

Jodha is frantically searching for him ... She sees the fire and shocked runs towards him


Jodha: Aap theek tho hain Shehnshah? Aap ko chot lagjaayeti. Is aag ko bhujana padega.

Jodha: Shehenshah, are you okay? You will get hurt. We will have to extinguish the flames.


Jalal: Yeh aag toh bhuja sakthi hon Jodha Begum ... Lekin woh aag jo hamare seene mein hein, woh kaise bhujaogi Jodha Begum?

Is taqt ko jalne do - yeh meri bebaasi , mere gussa, meri dhardh jo meri seenme jal raha hein

Yeh taqt ka kya fayda jo na apne ko pejchaan saka na apne ko bachaa saka? Hum bhilkool akele pad chuke hain ...

Jalal: You can extinguish the flames ... But what about the fire inside me ... How will you extinguish that?

Let this throne burn ... It is my frustration, anger, and pain that is in my heart that is burning


What is the purpose of this throne that could not recognize its own nor save its own? I am completely alone at this juncture

Jodha: Aap aise kaise keh sakthe hein? Aap humare taraf dhekiye ... Humare aankhon mein dhekiye. Hamare hote hue kya aap kabhi bhi akele ho sakthe hein? Hum hamesha aap ke saath rahenge.

Jodha: How can you say that? Look at me ... Look into my eyes ... With me there with you, can you ever be alone

And she cradles him just like in the episode ... Jalal further breaks down his pain ...

Jalal: Par hum kamzor hai ... Hum Atgah Khan ko nahin bacha sakhe

Jalal: But I am weak, I could not save Atgah Khan

Jodha: Hum taqdeer aur Ishwar ke icha ke saamne kuch nahin karsakthe ... Aur Atgah Khan shareer hume chod diya hein ... Lekin unki aatma hamesha hume aashirwaad deti rahegi

Unki aakhri dua aap kehliye thi Shehnshah ... Mere liye naa sahin, but Atgah Khan kehliye apne aap ko sambhal na hoga

Jodha: We cannot do anything in front of destiny or in front of God ... But though his body may have left us ... His soul will always bless you

His last prayer was for your life and success as a Shehnshah ... If not for me, you must bring yourself together for him

Jalal: Humne unhe insaaf dilaayi ... Adham Khan ko ek karoor sazaa dekhar ... Lekin phir bhi koyi sakoon nahin mila hume

Jalal: I tried to give Atgah Khan justice ... By giving Adham Khan a strict punishment, but even then I am not at peace


Jodha: Ek Shehenshah ki tarah apne Atgah Khan ko insaaf dehdhiya aur Adham Khan ko ek mujrim ki tara sazaa ... Lekin ek bete ko abhi bhi dhardh hai ... Aur ek bhai ke mann ka dhardh abhi bhi hein aapke seene me

Use bahar aajanedijiye

Jodha: As a Shehenshah, you gave Atgah Khan justice ... And Adham Khan a punishment like a criminal but ... As a son , as a brother ... You have pain in your heart still. Let it come out.

Jalal: Kya aap ko bhi lagtha key hum bohath kathor the Adham Khan ke saath?

Jalal: Do you also think I was too cruel with Adham Khan?

Jodha: Yeh sach hein Shehenshah ... Aap ka ye roop dekhkar hum dhar gaye ... Kyunki humne apne pathi ko aise kabhi nahin dekhatha

Lekin aapne bhilkool sahin kiya ek Shehenshah bathor

Jodha: It is true that I was scared seeing that form of you ... Because I had never seen my husband like that


But as a Shehenshah, you did completely right

Jalal: Hum ne hamesha ek Shehnshah ka farz nibaane ki koshish ki ... Apne awaam kehliye nahin soch aur insaaf laane ki koshish ki ... Par uske badle mein mujhe hamesha nafrat mila hi? Kyun Maham Anga or Adham humse itni nafrat karte the?

Jalal: I always did my duty as a Shehenshah ... I tried to bring reforms and justice to my people. But why did I always receive hate in return? Why did Maham Anga and Adham Khan hate me so much?

Jodha: Yeh kaisi baat hui Shehnshah. Aap Ek ache Shehnshah hai, kyunki aap ek ache manushya hai. Aap ke paas woh dil hein jise hum mohabhat karthe hein.

Maham Anga , Adham Khan ko sirf aap ka taakth or taaqat dikhai di ... Lekin woh yeh nahin samajhthe ke aap ek shresht rajah hain aap ki nek dil or achi soch ki wajai se.

Isiliye awaam ne aap ko pyaar diya aur Akbar ka khitab diya hein ...woh bhi pehchaan sake ke aap ka dil or soch itni badi hai. Aap ke paas hamara, Ammijaan, awaam ka pyaar hai ... Phir bhi aap aise kehrihi.

Jodha: What are you saying ... You are a good Shehenshah, because you are a good person. You have that heart that I love.

Maham Anga and Adham Khan could only see your throne and power ... They could not see you were a good ruler because of your good heart and thinking.

And this is why the people love you and gave you the title of Akbar ... Even they could see your big heart and thinking ... You have my love, Ammijaan's love, the people's love, and even then you are saying that


Jalal: Phir, Badi Ammi ne yeh achayi kyun nahin pehchaana?

Jalal: But why didn't Badi Ammi recognize this?

Jodha: Jo khud hi kaale he , woh kya doosro ko pehchaanenge

Jodha: Those who are black themselves, how will they recognize other

Jalal:Lekin phir bhi, woh aise kaise bad dua dedi hama. Hum une Ammijaan ke upar rakha?

Jalal: But how could she curse me like that ... The person I kept above my mother?

Jodha: Woh aapki pyaar ki layaak hi nahin thi.

Jodha: Because she did not deserve your love

Jalal:Agar hamare santaan ko kuch ho gaya ... Aap ko kuch ho gaya?

Jalal: But what if something happens to our children ... Or you?

Jodha:Yeh aapka dhardh bhol raha hein ... Varna aap kabhi taqdeer se dathe nahin.Baddua taqdeer aur ishwar ke upar nahin hein ...

Aur chahe jo bhi ho ... Hum hamesha aapke saath hinge. Maut bhi hume alag nahin karsakthi.

Aap bohath tak gaye hein Shehenshah ... Ab aap ki saare bhoj humko dhekar ... Sone ki koshish kijiye.

Jodha: This is your pain speaking ... Or else, you would never fear destiny. A curse is not above destiny or God And no matter what happens, we will always be with you. Even death cannot come between us.

You are very tired Shehenshah ... Give your burden to me ... And try to sleep.


In conclusion:

There is a subtle nuances between sadness versus self-pity, royalty versus regular men, challenged by your responsibility versus running away from it, breaking down versus breaking completely ... And the CVs lost that nuance for me again.

Please tell me, is Jodha any less strong in this version? Is Jalal any less human? And be honest if you found no difference. But for me, Jalal is not crying like a little boy afraid of losing it all but truly grieving for what he has lost and where he failed ... To me, that is the self-realization that brings someone to a new path ... You have to face yourself to find new meaning, you can never run away from yourself.

And to grieve for Atgah Khan , who sacrificed his life for his Shehenshah and the awaam, Jalal cannot discard his Baadhshat and duty to his awaam- what a discredit to Atgah Khan's service it would be.

But behraal, I always bring myself closure by imagining the Jodha-Jalal I love and how I see them as soul mates who bring each other strength. So, through this OS I brought closure for this track for myself.

I could only think of one song as I wrote this and envisioned my Jodha and Jalal:

Aaja Piya Tohe Pyaar Doon, Gori Baiyyaan Tope Vaar Doon

Come my love, let me shower you with my love

Kis Liye Tu, Itna Udaas

Why are you so sad

Sukhe Sukhe Honth, Ankhiyon Me Pyaas

Why that thirst within you?

Kis Liye Kis Liye Ho,

Oh why?

Jal Chuke, Hain Badan Kayi

Somewhere you have been burned

Piya Isii Aag Mein

But in this fire

Thake Hue In Haathon Ko

Give me those those tired hands


Dede Mere Haath Mein

In my hands

Ho, Sukh Mera Lele, Main Dukh Tere Leloon

Take my happiness, give me my sadness

Main Bhi Jiyoon Tu Bhi Jiye Ho,

I will live, and you will live

That was the final image in that Jodha-Jalal scene for me on Friday!

Hopefully, this brings some closure for you (if you had any issues in the first place) or else you enjoyed an OS that brings us back to the same place, Ruqaiyya's antics! 😉😆

As I have always said, I can take anything as long as the characters of Jodha-Jalal are intact.

Would love your thoughts!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Just rushed to read the thread divya , did not even thanked u in pm . What a beautiful write up my dear 🤗 . I do agree with u completely on this version of ja -Jo , one is showing more human side as his soul is crushed becoz he just lost his true ataliq not like bk or maham who had ulterior motives , so this lost is not just to him as person but to him as a shahensha and to his sultanate , so his anguish , pain , agony is justified ,even his breaking down is justified and at that moment that cradle form Jo has more important & telling him nothing matters more than him as a person to her -healing words.what u described would have been great closing of track and they could have started with rukku crap but alas curse was more important than atgha and bhashan from jodha . Once again lovely write up and do tell me how u felt about way she was telling him in today's epi?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: al_pal

Just rushed to read the thread divya , did not even thanked u in pm .

No need to thank me for the PM!

What a beautiful write up my dear 🤗 .

Thanks so much! 🤗

I do agree with u completely on this version of ja -Jo , one is showing more human side as his soul is crushed becoz he just lost his true ataliq not like bk or maham who had ulterior motives , so this lost is not just to him as person but to him as a shahensha and to his sultanate , so his anguish , pain , agony is justified ,even his breaking down is justified and at that moment that cradle form Jo has more important & telling him nothing matters more than him as a person to her -healing words.what u described would have been great closing of track and they could have started with rukku crap but alas curse was more important than atgha and bhashan from jodha .

I am glad you realized a difference ... at first I was very upset ... then I realized the CVs were doing their classic sloppiness in writing ... they needed a sad Jalal and a supportive Jodha ... but forgot what their dialogues meant in the context of royalty


Once again lovely write up and do tell me how u felt about way she was telling him in today's
epi?

To be honest, I did not watch the episode ... I could not see Jalal like that. It does not matter what Jodha said ... Jodha's heart is always in the right place and if Jalal is acting like a little boy, he does deserve a baashan more than anything else.



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divi i have to agree with you! and i thought i will forgive him as he is in pain and drunk but he did the same on monday and i was like what is he doing???
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Posted: 11 years ago
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thank you so much Anjali! My gift to you on what soul mates should be like in my book.

I don't like to be down ... I find a way out, even if I write my own script

After all we love Akdha more than the CVs , always!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg

divi i have to agree with you! and i thought i will forgive him as he is in pain and drunk but he did the same on monday and i was like what is he doing???



I knew what the CVs were intending ... Because even if Jalal was drunk, the Cvs are not- and they know exactly what they are doing.

Hope you liked this version! As I think this is just another example of sloppy writing from the CVs- just like the mirchi war. They forget they are dealing with royalty.
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Originally posted by: divyavm



I knew what the CVs were intending ... Because even if Jalal was drunk, the Cvs are not- and they know exactly what they are doing.

Hope you liked this version! As I think this is just another example of sloppy writing from the CVs- just like the mirchi war. They forget they are dealing with royalty.



exactly! but i just came across something interesting from adi will pm you as we cannot discuss history here!
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Originally posted by: mandyg



exactly! but i just came across something interesting from adi will pm you as we cannot discuss history here!

guys do pm me if it is related to history pretty please
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Originally posted by: mandyg



exactly! but i just came across something interesting from adi will pm you as we cannot discuss history here!



Ya, just responded!

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