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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Pals2411

TODAY I WAS LITERALLY LAUGHING READING COMMENTS THAT JODHA DOESNT HAVE FAITH IN JALAL WHILE HE TRUSTS HER BLINDLY😆...SOME EVEN SAYING THAT JALAL LOVES HER MORE THAN SHE DOES😆...

FOR JODHA I CAN SAY ...SHE IS EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY 100% LOYAL AND FAITHFUL TO JALAL...HAS SHE EVER WAVERED IN HER LOYALTY TOWARDS HIM????...IN FACT EVERY TRACK HAS SHOWN HER BEING TOTALLY LOYAL TO HIM ...HAS SHE LOVED SOMEONE LESS?????...IN FACT I WILL GO TO THE EXTENT OF ASKING THAT DOES ANYONE THINK SHE CAN LOVE SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN JALAL???...JALAL KNOWS THE ANSWER...HENCE THAT BLIND TRUST ON HIS FIERY BELOVED QUEEN...SHE WILL BE BY HIS SIDE THRU THICK AND THIN TILL HER LIFETIME...
BY THE WAY IF WE SEE SUJAMAL TRACK...IF SUJAMAL HAD NOT SAID THAT HE WAS HER BROTHER, HE WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM, NOT KNOWN THE TRUTH AND NOT GONE TO THE EXTENT OF FINDING HER OR BRINGING HER BACK...
I WONT QUESTION JALAL'S LOVE...BECAUSE I KNOW HE ONLY LOVES JODHA...BUT CAN JALAL AS A KING WITH A HAREM FULL OF BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (WHICH WILL GROW EVERY MONTH) BE LOYAL AND IN LOVE WITH HER TILL HIS LIFETIME???...AS A KING BELONGING TO THE 16TH CENTURY HE WILL BE MARRYING OTHER WOMEN...IS THERE A GUARANTEE THAT HE WILL NOT GET ATTRACTED TO ANYONE OF THEM OR BE IN LOVE IN THE FUTURE?????...I FOR ONE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT...THAT IS WHAT RUKAIYAA WAS HINTING AT AND THAT IS WHY JODHA WAS IN DiLEMMA...HE IS A KING, HE HAS THE OPTIONS, HE CAN DO AS HE WISHES AND AS PER HIS FANCY ANYTIME (THIS IS AS PER 16TH CENTURY REALITY, POLYGAMOUS SETUP)...KEEPING THAT ASIDE...JALAL COMES AND TELLS HER ON HER FACE THAT HE DOESN'T LOVE HER...HE SAYS I LOVE SOMEONE ELSE...HE IS COOCHY COOING IN THE PALACE FOR ANYONE TO SEE INCLUDING JODHA...HE IS REPEATEDLY INSULTING HER AND TELLING HER THAT SHE IS NOT WORTHY OF HIS LOVE...HE IS NOT ASHAMED OF TALKING ABOUT HIS NEW FOUND LOVE IN FRONT OF HIS MOTHER, MINISTERS...HE IS GOING TO THE EXTENT OF GREATING RELIGIOUS UPROAR AND ORDERING KILLING OF HIS OWN PEOPLE IF THEY REVOLT...AND STILL ONE WANTS JODHA TO BELIEVE THAT JALLU IS ACTING😆...HIS MOTHER COULDNT UNDERSTAND, HIS BEST FRIEND COULDNT, HIS DOOD KI KARZ MOTHER COULDNT, SALIMA COULDNT AND EVERYONE WANTS JODHA TO UNDERSTAND...ISNT IT TAKING TOO FARRR😆




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What perfect heart felt comment.

I agree with each and every word of yours.

See it is like this - it does not matter what Jalal has done or what Jodha has done - to some whatever Jalal does is right and whatever Jodha does is wrong!

Your comment is PERFECT answer - Jodha loves Jalal as much if not more cos she has undergone far too much already in this and yet she continues to face insults and rages from him but never wavers. Jalal loves her but he also goes to extremes with her.

If this was Jalal NOT pretending and he had said the same words the comments would have been 'how arrogant of Jodha, he told her to her face that he loves someone else but she does not believe him, she does not trust his words, does she think he can only love her blah blah"

So does not matter what Jalal does how he behaves just cos it is done by Jalal it has to be right!



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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: chitterati

I love the title of your post, it sums up the kashmakash of Jalal, the pain the sorrow of putting his family, his love, his praja through this. Jalal proved, that when it comes to safeguarding his sultanate and his people, he will not let his personal feelings come in the way. With great power comes great responsibility and greater turmoils, I feel bad for Jalal...

And jodha -I loooveeed her when she said enough of crying and decided to rise to her duties as a mother to be, this feeling was what I wanted to see in her during the KZ rescue mission she undertook. She was so dignified today, they way she silently supported Ruk, it was really moving...by merely holding her hand Jo asked her to hold on and be strong. When Ruk said to Jo " you really are beautiful " - she dint just mean externally , Ruk realised the immensely beautiful soul Jo had.
At first , I dint understand reasons of Jo wanting to leave, then I realised Jo took this decision as a mother , she knew of the political unrest that would follow and she wanted to keep her children safe.

And although I can understand the anger towards Jalal for putting Jo through all the anguish with this plan of his - but I will side with Jalal on this one. He knows jodha will never let him endanger himself, he knows Jo will jump in fire for him and be his shield, so the only option he was left with was to keep Jo out of loop.


And when it comes to matter of Jo trusting Jalal - I don't think the question or the premise is even valid. Jalal himself had professed many times that he is no longer in love with Jo, and to hear the word talaq from him would have numbed Jo to look beyond his anger. Faith in love to me in not blind faith - if we have blind faith in someone we will never be cognizant of their fallacies and will never question them, and no sound relationship can survive like that.



Fabulous post, especially loved the lines in bold.
Your blue line in bold 👏👏👏👏👏


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Posted: 10 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: tamy267

Jodha- her world revolves around her Shehenshah...and the same person talked about talaq to her! she didnt cry, she didnt rant, she went numb, she became a stone with no emotions left inside her, if she was only a wife she would have fought it back, cry it loud, rant it to Kanha, left Agra right then! but here it is Jodha the mother, enduring every pain with brave heart for the sake of her unborn kids...I cried a lot when she couldnt help but burst into tears hugging Hameeda...how broken was she...still standing tall! The girl has no idea what her husband is up to..for her, a life without Jalal is worthless but she has to live for her kids being a mother.💔


Jalal- every time he comes across Jodha, his eyes get filled with pain and lots of pain..I cant imagine how much pain this guy is enduring every moment! still he is keeping his cool and following his plan..he spotted Atifa talking with 3 men, immediately he interpreted the whole situation that the guys r Atifa's crime partners who will help her to succeed in her mission..later Atifa asking him to let them be in the nikah proved his doubts as true...Jalal wasnt even listening to her, his mind was busy in calculating...Jalal told TM n Atgah not to let Jodha attend nikah, coz he wanted to keep her safe in her hojra given a major attack is going to take place during nikah...he wanted her to stay away from all this and be safe...the last scene which hit the nail! Jalal couldnt bear it anymore..hurting Jodha causing him unbearable pain..he couldnt help but to visit her secretly...there he found a lifeless Jodha whose tears dried! his heart broke into million pieces with her this sight...the Jalal who cant even see a scratch in Jodha's skin, now is compelled to kill her inside...pain at its worst💔

Ruqaiyya- today she poured her heart out to Jodha...her insecurities, her fear, her hatred for Jodha, her seeking for opportunities to insult her, everything she admitted today...Ruqaiyya is totally vulnerable...she is dreading her loss of position...and now when Jalal is not going to remain Shehenshah, she thought of one woman who can feel her pain and that is Jodha...she wanted to cling onto one hope of Jalal's love for Jodha which can stop him marrying Papita..in this way her BEK audha will be safe..Ruqaiyya always wished for ill of Jodha, but now she is not able to take it when the same Jodha went against Jalal to support her...I loved her scene...and this is another scene which made me teary..I loved it..tomorrow Ruqaiyya will again turn her back to Jodha and will become a vamp, but today I loved her.

Maan Singh- Dont know is he a part of Jalal's plan or not..did Jalal send him to Jodha...?

Hameeda Banu- absolutely graceful and loving mother-in-law...loved her.❤️


precap: TE will make dhaansu entry...🥳


today's episode was very emotional for me...I cried almost in every scene...but yes, I know from tomorrow I will celebrate❤️


I feel CB was freed by Jalal..he found her and kept her in some secret place..tomorrow during bhadnaphod, he will bring her in front of everyone and will reveal Maham.⭐️

awesome👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Pals2411

TODAY I WAS LITERALLY LAUGHING READING COMMENTS THAT JODHA DOESNT HAVE FAITH IN JALAL WHILE HE TRUSTS HER BLINDLY😆...SOME EVEN SAYING THAT JALAL LOVES HER MORE THAN SHE DOES😆...

FOR JODHA I CAN SAY ...SHE IS EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY 100% LOYAL AND FAITHFUL TO JALAL...HAS SHE EVER WAVERED IN HER LOYALTY TOWARDS HIM????...IN FACT EVERY TRACK HAS SHOWN HER BEING TOTALLY LOYAL TO HIM ...HAS SHE LOVED SOMEONE LESS?????...IN FACT I WILL GO TO THE EXTENT OF ASKING THAT DOES ANYONE THINK SHE CAN LOVE SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN JALAL???...JALAL KNOWS THE ANSWER...HENCE THAT BLIND TRUST ON HIS FIERY BELOVED QUEEN...SHE WILL BE BY HIS SIDE THRU THICK AND THIN TILL HER LIFETIME...
BY THE WAY IF WE SEE SUJAMAL TRACK...IF SUJAMAL HAD NOT SAID THAT HE WAS HER BROTHER, HE WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM, NOT KNOWN THE TRUTH AND NOT GONE TO THE EXTENT OF FINDING HER OR BRINGING HER BACK...
I WONT QUESTION JALAL'S LOVE...BECAUSE I KNOW HE ONLY LOVES JODHA...BUT CAN JALAL AS A KING WITH A HAREM FULL OF BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (WHICH WILL GROW EVERY MONTH) BE LOYAL AND IN LOVE WITH HER TILL HIS LIFETIME???...AS A KING BELONGING TO THE 16TH CENTURY HE WILL BE MARRYING OTHER WOMEN...IS THERE A GUARANTEE THAT HE WILL NOT GET ATTRACTED TO ANYONE OF THEM OR BE IN LOVE IN THE FUTURE?????...I FOR ONE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT...THAT IS WHAT RUKAIYAA WAS HINTING AT AND THAT IS WHY JODHA WAS IN DiLEMMA...HE IS A KING, HE HAS THE OPTIONS, HE CAN DO AS HE WISHES AND AS PER HIS FANCY ANYTIME (THIS IS AS PER 16TH CENTURY REALITY, POLYGAMOUS SETUP)...KEEPING THAT ASIDE...JALAL COMES AND TELLS HER ON HER FACE THAT HE DOESN'T LOVE HER...HE SAYS I LOVE SOMEONE ELSE...HE IS COOCHY COOING IN THE PALACE FOR ANYONE TO SEE INCLUDING JODHA...HE IS REPEATEDLY INSULTING HER AND TELLING HER THAT SHE IS NOT WORTHY OF HIS LOVE...HE IS NOT ASHAMED OF TALKING ABOUT HIS NEW FOUND LOVE IN FRONT OF HIS MOTHER, MINISTERS...HE IS GOING TO THE EXTENT OF GREATING RELIGIOUS UPROAR AND ORDERING KILLING OF HIS OWN PEOPLE IF THEY REVOLT...AND STILL ONE WANTS JODHA TO BELIEVE THAT JALLU IS ACTING😆...HIS MOTHER COULDNT UNDERSTAND, HIS BEST FRIEND COULDNT, HIS DOOD KI KARZ MOTHER COULDNT, SALIMA COULDNT AND EVERYONE WANTS JODHA TO UNDERSTAND...ISNT IT TAKING TOO FARRR😆


You have nailed it Pals... Such a perfect write up...I agree with each and every word of yours..









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Posted: 10 years ago
#55
Good post Chocos . Liked your description of today's episode .
The only part that I liked most today , is the manner in which Jodha held her dignity . Her silent acknowledgement of Rukaiyyas insecurities , her controlled reactions to Jalal's talaq announcement and the way in which she finally unleashed her pent up tears to the Queen mother were outstanding . Paridhi Sharma was awesome today .
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Posted: 10 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Gem12

Hahaha gem I am totally with u... Whatever u sad was right.. I know this was the bakwas track written by cv's.. After all hubby-wife relationship status which was something beyond filled with pure love, trust, adjustable within them.No I am not married yet.. grinning lol... I know in this track both of had their own flaws.. The thing I was mentioning writing goes beyond realistic.. One can expect when Jalal comes to know Rukaiya stooped too low plotting against Jo to kill her babies.. Here I don't want Jodha to interfere when he was declaring some huge retribution to Rukku.. Otherwise none of the love stories can't go without ups n down.. Lovely post..😳

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Posted: 10 years ago
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They showed in SBS just now:

Marriage scene where Atifa killed groom...MA is crying loudly, gives slap and pulling Atifa's hair...telling her that Jalal ka katal nahin karna tha tumhe...kaha tha na humne...
All are shocked...
She says in full crying mode that Jalal was not fit to sit in the throne now but I didn't want him dead...
She was crying beside the dead body...
Jalal in soldier dress is listening to this...
Ammanullah also said that it was the only option left for us...You are his dood ki maa so you will be left but we will be caught and killed...So we thought of killing...
SBS TRPS:
5) Jodha Akbar
4) Kumkum Bhagya
3) Mahabharat
2) Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai
1) Diya aur Baati Hum
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Posted: 10 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: chitterati

I love the title of your post, it sums up the kashmakash of Jalal, the pain the sorrow of putting his family, his love, his praja through this. Jalal proved, that when it comes to safeguarding his sultanate and his people, he will not let his personal feelings come in the way. With great power comes great responsibility and greater turmoils, I feel bad for Jalal...

And jodha -I loooveeed her when she said enough of crying and decided to rise to her duties as a mother to be, this feeling was what I wanted to see in her during the KZ rescue mission she undertook. She was so dignified today, they way she silently supported Ruk, it was really moving...by merely holding her hand Jo asked her to hold on and be strong. When Ruk said to Jo " you really are beautiful " - she dint just mean externally , Ruk realised the immensely beautiful soul Jo had.
At first , I dint understand reasons of Jo wanting to leave, then I realised Jo took this decision as a mother , she knew of the political unrest that would follow and she wanted to keep her children safe.

And although I can understand the anger towards Jalal for putting Jo through all the anguish with this plan of his - but I will side with Jalal on this one. He knows jodha will never let him endanger himself, he knows Jo will jump in fire for him and be his shield, so the only option he was left with was to keep Jo out of loop.


And when it comes to matter of Jo trusting Jalal - I don't think the question or the premise is even valid. Jalal himself had professed many times that he is no longer in love with Jo, and to hear the word talaq from him would have numbed Jo to look beyond his anger. Faith in love to me in not blind faith - if we have blind faith in someone we will never be cognizant of their fallacies and will never question them, and no sound relationship can survive like that.

Fabulous review.. 👏
I could see bleeding souls undergoing rough patches included in their love journey.. So true, he had to do this for his own world which is going to bloom... He don't want to loose Jo n his babies at any cost.. No matter he knew that Jo will understand his situational ploy in acting as a protective shield for her..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pals2411

They showed in SBS just now:

Marriage scene where Atifa killed groom...MA is crying loudly, gives slap and pulling Atifa's hair...telling her that Jalal ka katal nahin karna tha tumhe...kaha tha na humne...
All are shocked...
She says in full crying mode that Jalal was not fit to sit in the throne now but I didn't want him dead...
She was crying beside the dead body...
Jalal in soldier dress is listening to this...
Ammanullah also said that it was the only option left for us...You are his dood ki maa so you will be left but we will be caught and killed...So we thought of killing...
SBS TRPS:
5) Jodha Akbar
4) Kumkum Bhagya
3) Mahabharat
2) Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai
1) Diya aur Baati Hum


Thanks pallu.. 😃
I had watched it.kamal ki acting by vamp queen MA.. 😆
So sad JA at 5th spot.. No worries next week. Sure we will be back in position..
Great thing.. Jalal in disguise watching all crocodile tears from MA... 😛
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

I LOVED Paridhi's acting today. She was just fabulous. 👏👏👏
When she was talking with HB and finally her control slipped and she cried - I got so emotional, I could feel her pain.

For some reason I liked Lavina better yesterday, not as much today.

I hate watching Jalal with Atifa cos when he smiles at her and gives her expression he has given before to Jodha or Rukayya I feel very angry.

Jodha is supposed to blindly trust Jalal when
he lied to her about shikar
he told Jodha to her face that he loves Atifa now
he told her to her face that loving her was a mistake
he told her that he does not want to listen to her views
he told her that SHE has destroyed his love
he is behaving badly with Ruk also which he has never done before

MOST IMPORTANTLY - when Jodha knows MOST OF ALL WHAT JALAL HAS CRAVED SO LONG IS CHILD - when he is getting his most desired wish - he shouts at his unborn babies saying let them know what he thinks of their mother

after all this Jodha is blindly supposed to trust Jalal!!! He has lashed out at her and wounded her again and again.

He told her he is a Shehenshah and can marry as many times and whoever he wants. He is telling everybody including his mother and his best friend-cum-wife that he is so much in love with Atifa he does not mind leaving his takht for her - they believe him but Jodha is not supposed to!

Ruk keeps telling Jodha she knows Jalal best and he moved away from her for Jodha and he is doing the same to Jodha with Atifa.

Jodha has not got time to think also in the uproar and still she is just supposed to trust Jalal?

I think if she gets time to think Jodha will think where it all went wrong, she might be thinking he changed due to Khyber thing. Jodha will come to realize something is wrong this is not HER Jalal. She said as much to Maan Singh that Jalal is not himself and she loves him.

I think not his love for Atifa but his shouting at his babies might have made her believe he has changed.

Jalal had to pretend for some reason and get her away from him. I still don't understand why by saying will give Talaq how Jodha becomes safe? She will still be pregnant and still be carrying his waris.

There is no law as per my knowledge which says if parents are separated then children do not remain waris!

Whatever reasons of Jalal's he himself know that he went too far. He knows by saying Talaq he hurt her very badly. Jalal knows that he has hurt everybody who love him from HB to his Begums.

He is hurting himself but so far he has not given any indication of it. He was not given any self talks about what he is doing to Jodha before today. Still his pain is understandable, his trust is understandable but for some Jodha's is not!!!

Yes Jalal has hurt her very badly. Jodha is pregnant carrying twins in an extremely delicate emotional state and has undergone tough physical times and it is her strength and her dignity that has made her carry on.

Jodha's sentence to Moti for refusing to again talk with Jalal is very telling, she says no point in talking now, do not want to bring bitterness in relations for future. Jodha has not given up on Jalal - to her it seems he has.

For hurting her and everybody who loves him, Jalal will have to give explanation and say sorry. They did not doubt him - rather for reasons best known only to him so far - he has to not trust them with this.

Jodha once she thinks mostly will realize there are some missing pieces in this - maybe that is why she ran to the Nikah venue - she might realize his reasons for doing this - will that make the hurt of his lashing words and not trusting go away!

Ultimately they both will get thru this cos they love each other.

Beautifully written Maddy.. ⭐️❤️
U covered it all.. Nothing left out each line seems taken as a valid one.. Here I don't dare to raise any question regards their love and trust, because it's beyond emotionally connected with their souls, that can't even be questioned.. Though she broken down outside infront of HB, but she never let down Jalal with others.. How that looks so special.. I felt this time after learning Jodha will never question him but she will understand his intentions...

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