When the real blurs with the reel - Page 3

Created

Last reply

Replies

28

Views

3.9k

Users

22

Likes

228

Frequent Posters

ghalibmirza thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: adianasr

Divs, the problem is that the minute there is a critique it is looked upon as a slur - and ppl resort to 'Vivaad' instead of 'Samvaad'

I have been a TE fan through out - and I became a Rajat fan much later - and I am a thru and thru Akbar fan - for me Jodha is becoz of Akbar and not the other way round.

Unfortunately, ppl take all critiquing of characters and actors personally - which is truly tragic



👏
abhi786 thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: elasingh

Great post Divyam...Wont deny that I am a Jo supporter but I have nothing against Khushi's or donjas's post...What bugs me is that ppl think it is OK to critise one and if other is critcized then it is like spreading negativity.. I am matured enough to realise that we need Jallu supporters too ...or the forum will become unipolar having similar kinds of views...and this inability to face critisism of ur favourate actor spells death for debate, new ideas and forum...


Ela I agree completely without why can't this forum have arguments on both side, I just liked the forum where we have both posts criticism and positives...I still can't why people report a thread if they don't agree simply leave it..

I would like to see daily thread of positives and negatives, where everyone can share their views acting, dialogues, story, script and everything without warnings... Its really sad many have left JA forum...
Donjas thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#23
Very nice post. Agree a lot with what you say.

Problems arise when posts like these are made-'Leap because Ekta wants to get rid of Paridhi'. Instead of making specific criticism of scenes or scenarios, when one makes generalized conclusions like this, then trouble ensues.

What exactly did that that thread achieve other than create divisions and harden positions. People forget when they bash other characters that the actors they love have faults too. In fact every human has imperfections.

So, if you are in the mood to bash others, get ready to receive a vociferous reaction. And mostly these criticisms, in allegation or reaction, are not make believe, they are usually genuine concerns that fans of that particular actor simply gloss over.





Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago
ShadeOfWhite thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 11 years ago
#24
Divya much needed post! thanks for making it...🤗
some posts and views amaze me to an extent that I keep wondering really these types threads r made?!😕

u know me..I am a die-hard JJ fan...so if there is a bashing, I always try my best to defend..but that doesnt mean I will never talk about their flaws..there r flaws in them and those what make JJ more human unlike other soap characters on TV...
but shockingly, I have found that when any member talk about one lead's mistakes that lead's fans defend him/her with praises and bring the other lead's past mistakes, highlight them so that their fav lead's mistakes r covered! and this is beyond my understanding...!! I mean really?? this is so kiddish! no problem in criticizing when they make mistakes, but why bring the other one to cover..?

this forum happened to be most peaceful forum in entire IF and look at it now..every post evokes a fan war...and 4-5 true AkDha fans (the number is reduced to this now😭) have to suffer in all this..I feel like a sandwich in between them.🥺

there r many types of AkDha fans here...but hardly any of them love both equally...many r here who love AkDha as a couple but love Jalal more and there is who love Jodha more...so when it comes to any problem or MU, AkDha love flies out of the window and bashing the not so favorite lead character takes place sometimes Ja sometimes Jo...people go so over board that they start bashing the real people! as if Rajat is really like Jalal and Paridhi is like Jodha.

it feels it is a crime to love both...sigh!
Edited by tamy267 - 11 years ago
rpeez thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#25
Wow Divi,

True!

Beautifully written. 👏

As far as I am concerned, "Ignorance is a bliss", I am blissfully ignorant of things I don't agree with. 😆
Dhiya2 thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#26
A truly brilliant post Divi depicting the sad state of the forum.
Yatha raja thata praja...
If the admins are being ignorant of this situation then you cannot really blame the members.

I admit I love Jalal more than Jo and I sometimes prefer Ruqs practical behaviour over Jodha's reham dil behaviour. But there are many scenarios I despised Ruq and Jalal and loved Jodha more.
But when it is Jodha's turn to be on wrong side, I was criticized with warnings to get out of the forum. When it is Jalal"s turn to shine, even then he is criticized for something he did in past, or his expression or calling out names. Can you imagine what would happen if I create a post calling Jodha a name just like they called out Akbar as Yuckbar?
Even a single comment of the make up of Actress not being good or praising Lavina's beauty over Pari is deemed as crime here.

There is no freedom of opinions in the forum what so ever.
Edited by Dhiya2 - 11 years ago
jaljo thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Very true Divya

👍🏼 for making the post that conveys your views clearly yet doesn't mention names. I am yet to learn that art.😆

IF unfortunately is pro-jo and pro-paridhi. Even Jalal is not spared against her. He shouts at her and he becomes a wife abuser. His only job is to count her hunars and indulge and pamper her. As for the forum waasis criticism becomes sacrilege. Reports warnings and thread closures.

Recently Donjas made a post on his view that he found Rajat's expression not upto the mark. But the replies were only in defense of his expression or acceptance of the post. The thread is still alive. But the post made by Khushi saying that she found Pari inept in some aspects of the show had hues and cries and is already reported for closure.

I think that the Jodhaphiles are so sensitive to criticism as they deeply KNOW that the criticisms may be true afterall. Noother explanation for such hyper-reactivity.

Well I would like to clarify here.
I read Donjas post. His post was regarding his POV regarding RT's expressions. The well-made criticism can be gauged by the words chosen, the way it is written. The sincere criticism could have been taken with a YES or NO as agreements/disagreements are welcome everywhere. But if one group (half to one dozen members) come strongly on the TM or a person supporting the TM, then that is not done. That is what I observed in Donjas's post. Now this post was deviated in such a way (twice) that it GOT CLOSED.
On the contrary Khushi's post was regarding a LEAP that will happen in Jodha Akbar and she put the blame on the actress very confidently without there being an iota of truth to it. There are no articles or videos supporting the reason of the leap but the post was made based on what the actress had said around 6 months ago (that was held against her). Here the actress was blamed for a LEAP when no such thing has been mentioned anywhere in the media. This was a post that was not criticizing the actress but blaming/maligning/pulling down the actress. There is a big difference. And the funny part is that the same dozen people try to poke fun, corner or come across strongly against people who disagree. This post till now has NOT BEEN CLOSED.
@TM: You can verify for yourself.
PS: @TM: Though I am not answerable to any, since you made this thread, I thought of replying to whatever I observed and understood since yesterday. I also wont be surprised if the same dozen people go against me. Wanted to put my point and hence did. Thank you for giving me this opportunity.😊
divyavm thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail Networker 2 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#28
Guys, I don't know what to say ... perhaps, I have not articulated my point.

I am saying- no point is right or wrong ... we all have different ways to evaluate things. I am not even choosing sides. Donjas has every right to criticize RT's acting just like we criticize the CVs, Khushi has every right to make a post questioning the leap and potential drivers of it. Both are subjective- so whether you agree with it or not is what makes you think it is well-written or ridiculous.

Can Donjas state for a fact that Jalal's reaction was the wrong one or can Khushi state for a fact that romantic scenes are the reason for the leap? Nothing is fact here ... it is all up for debate- so how can one debate be okay or another debate be wrong?

We all love the show for different reasons - so what one person views as articulate, positive, appropriate is different. I do not think it makes a difference if you love Jodha more, Jalal more, or both equally - you feel what you feel about the show and specific scenes. Why do we have to be in camps?

Can we not tolerate threads with different points of view? Do you honestly feel that Rajat, Paridhi, or anyone will feel devastated receiving negative feedback? Then the CVs must be in a state of depression if they visit this forum.

Threads are rarely closed because of the discussion topic but because the debate moves from the discussion to the right of individual members to have a POV on the discussion.

Feel free to go against the argument but how can we go against the person who starts the thread or the person making a comment on the threads? That is when it shifts from discussions of the reel on the serial, to the real about individuals.

Perhaps, that is exactly what is happening to me.
aashyagh thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: rpeez

Wow Divi,

True!

Beautifully written. 👏

As far as I am concerned, "Ignorance is a bliss", I am blissfully ignorant of things I don't agree with. 😆


I agree with Raksha. I feel lot are not ready to accept anything to do with PS's criticism or Jodha's mistakes. When you try to put your views you become victim. So ignore such posts 😆

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".