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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ayushimehra


How is it OK for Jalal to be indifferent / upset / angry / fine with Jodha, as and when he pleases? He may be angry with her one moment and hold her hand the next.

RAdhika, acc to me some Cv falut, but one point when a person, take own decesions in Life, Right or wrong he not bothers. But when a person knows, if he will take wrong decesions, now someone has come who will React, so he confuses, so His behaviour will sure different, Because, He wants to Learn From Jodha, But Thoughts contrast, reached him
indifferent behaviour, but when his emotions come to extreem, he Hold her Hand, because he can't control emotions. He wants to live Heart life. He is Learning, from a women, His Male igo, disturbs him, But Habit of learning, says, you have to Learn More.So this Change of Mood & behaviour sure Will Come;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;& slowely change into BLANCE MANNER.But please Note jodha also learning from him. She accepts her mistakes, she tries, no repeat;;;;;;;;;;;;;But this problem comes, Learning people. But it doesnot mean we should use Harsh Language, so some or you can say Full CV falut.

RR

Does his holding her hand in public and showing his trust in her make up for all the demeaning things he said to her?
I, Liked that scene, ques is not, he hold his hand in Public, Ques is this He belived Jodha character Point. He knows Many ladies, Many femals in his Harem, He is watching Atifa Also,
if this point will come to ATIFA, he will not belive. This jodha investment to Inlaws Family.
Intercaste Marriage 16 cen.👏 👏 He respected his character point in AWAM. its can become big issu

HB, or Husband beliving her character. Tough in 21 cen. But How much, Honoured, felt jodha hearing about that, but agree, he should not speak, demeaning language.
Who is the true Jalal?

The one who says he cannot live without Jodha
I think this Jalal is True, Its proved in History. But he is behaving Hozara, in different Manner
1 i think, Khyber point weak, his plan So

2, Cold war happened now, between couple. Jalal knows more reaction will now effect, more
he knows jodha, after Extremm she takes decesion, but he knows, she will take decesion after kids Born, ( once jodha said, she will gave child you, then Leave Agra FP jodha )
so he is using Cold war, Friday episode, But today he maybee will more react, ;;;;;;;;;;;;i am not saying he is doing Right;;;;;;;100% wrong. But sometimes Sileance is better then speaking. Agree, But tough when husband is Modd twister..
or

The one who feels Jodha has abused his love and trust?

This is not the first time since his famous bringing Jodha back from death scene that he has ripped her through verbally. It happened earlier in the Sujamal track and it's happening now.

We are hoping that he may be acting,. it may be some jadu tona or he may be under some spell.
l knows
We are happy he held her hand and trusted her.
No, i am not happy, he hold her hand, & trusted her, i am Happy, Realtionship, Growth happened in Character Point. it not means they will not ARgu, Now, Sure Argu, Because both wants to Learn from eachother, Learning is A FIRE, it can't stops.But character Point will help to Undersatnd more eachother, Or realtionship will reach next level, They are achieving Little Little steps.
So sometimes, changes way, but again misses eachother, Then united, This process will reach them, Slowely BLANCE LADDER, then Understanding will work. But Arguments sure happen again.
Both have to fire doing best, So TWO Hills, Tops are always differnt, But you can't say, That hill is More, Precious, Both are Precious;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;This is Sweetness of this realtion.so Jalal evertime surprises, when he sees;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;More qualties of Jodha. ometime s He thinks this Last, Next quality is ready;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Learning process is ready. But he forgets soon, this problem wants to sort out


But as a woman, I know Jodha can never completely erase those harsh words from her psyche, no matter how loving and attentive he may be to her after the track is over. No matter what his intentions may have been. No matter how dangerous the circumstances may have been.

Agree, But she knows how to console Own, Very tough, Jalal should not speak this Language, you know when i talked to Ztv,that lady said to me, Mam he was Jallad type Man starting. so how he changes, we are showing truth;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so he not knows, EMOTIONS, not knows What comes effects;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But he will Learn.

But acc to me, He confuses, he thinks i learnt this so completed, but he forgets Learning is a Process, its never ends. Which day he will learn this, Couple understanding will reach healty +strong level



And how long will that phase of loving Jodha continue? Till the next insult Jodha track is scripted.
Please Cv not show, More insult of Jodha Now. Its enough,
Who gives the CVs the right to show Jalal playing with Jodha's emotions in this manner and leaving her totally confused as to what's there really in his heart - passionate love or wild anger/hatred?

AGree, Cv has no Right Jalal playing with Jodha emotions. But couple needed to Learn more.Jalal should aware, when he speaks with Jodha,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Cause,, His short tempering
Jodha tried, suside attempt, its not Good , or Jalal knows, about this.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Abhay please tell is Jalal was so Rude.😡 😡, acc to History. More things needed to improve.



Yes, a couple needs to learn and move on. But when we learn from someone, we should remember the lesson for life and we should respect that person.

Love may or may not be there all the time, trust is there but what is missing is respect. Respect doesn't mean just being polite when they talk to each other. Respect means understanding what the other person needs, wants or accepts, and adapting oneself accordingly.

Respect means not shouting or taking out anger at each other. Respect means convincing or letting go what one wants to do if the other doesn't like it.

These kind of crass episodes where royalty behaves like plebians should be done away with and JJ should be quickly shown to have developed mutual respect. Then only the show would be watchable.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Radhika,

Did you watch the Episode.?.
I DID watch, and i could see your Post coming out to be True..Jalal won't emerge Wise...This is NOT CLEVER-ness as per what i know...This is a Self-Destruction Process BEYOND redemption...

Salima Begum's advice to Jodha was a BIG NOTICE to us...
Kuch to hone wala hai... ;p

^^^These were my random thoughts.. ;p



On a serious note, following are my views on today's Episode...


If i liked anything today, it was ONLY TodarMal..GRACE trickles DOWN from that MAN's advices...

Jalal - Faking(?) , but i am not enjoying this.. Reason --> At the cost of / Rather, for his wife.?. Which i am not getting...I simply FAIL to see this attempt JUST to unmask Atifa...I don't see here any Clever Emperor, rather a Emperor who SEEMS "" insensitive "" ..!!...I am NOT enjoying this portrayal...

At one time CV's give Dialogue that Emperor is above ALL, next moment, the actions of Jalal these days just to UNmask Atifa make HIM go down as weak person devoid of ideas... He could send Jodha to Sikri, for protection..Even if he is faking, he can assign BANDIS to Jodha for her care, or JUST tell Salima to take her care... Seems, She has ONLY Moti..
CV's did the UNthinkable in Khyber-Jodha track..What can say here.?. Then, they are NOW hell bent at Experimenting With An Emperor...

Salima Begum is a graceful lady...She and her advice, are always BALANCED...
Liked Zakira's Loyalty...

Ruqaiya AGAIN did NOT tell Jalal that Amanullah came to meet Atifa..But is this NEW.?. ;p
She tries to take advantage...LOL..And, in the END , even she was not comfortable with Jalal doing ""THAT""..

BTW, one thing became CLEAR.. LOL.. Who loves what.?. ROFL..
Ruqaiya -- Her BEK Status..
Jodha -- ONLY her husband..

OMG...And precap's Dialogue was really over my head, that due to " HIS humiliation by Jodha " in Public , he is marrying Atifa..Though, i will wait to see...

Personally, Tedha Jalal was when , he took everything INTO account and acted in a shrewd manner in the Ratanpur Quila Track...And, that Jodha was also upto the Mark..She gave to MA in her own STYLE... There "" Jalal was thinking about EVERYONE's prestige "" , and Jodha was with HER HUSBAND.

But his Jalal is NOT Tedha, and one thing i detest is the use of a Pregnant Lady as a BAIT(supposedly)...
CV's need BETTER Ideas...

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Posted: 11 years ago
GM, Abhay!
No, I didn't watch the episode - just read the WU.

Even at this moment, there are two paths down which the story can go.

1. Jalal is faking.

What a twister of a plan Jalal seems to be acting (pun intended) upon! He comes across as most insensitive and UNGRATEFUL. He must know that if he is alive to romance Atifa today, it is because of Jodha. (Ruq must also know that if she is still BEK today, it's because of Jodha.)

I DO NOT accept the theory of jadu tona / hypnosis. Men are fully capable of being uncaring of pregnant wives and unborn babies and taking out all their frustrations on these hapless creatures, whilst being completely in their senses. They do not even feel remorse / guilt later and conveniently pin the blame on the wife, because a wife is tied to her husband and has no escape, no matter how he behaves with her.

(You know, in our community, a man ties a coarse "rassi" around his wife's waist during the wedding rituals. I asked my mom at the time of my wedding the significance of this rope tying act. She said a man ties the rope around a woman and takes her home the way he would take cattle, bought from the marketplace, home. A wife is as good as cattle to a man.)

I still stand by my words that NO JUSTIFICATION will be shown. (At the end of the vish drinking track, when Jalal enters Jodha's hojra for the first time after she gains consciousness, he mumbles that there is no need to look back and go into apologies.)

A man, esp an emperor, can do anything in the name of catching culprits without having to answer his wife for anything.

(What I do not understand is why does a powerful emperor have to do everything himself? What do his noblemen do? Didn't Akbar have "knights" like King Arthur?

Even if he has to do everything himself, why can't he simply ask the suspect to spill everything. Was Akbar so merciful that he couldn't employ third-degree, if required?)

2. Jalal is oblivious to everything.

You said yourself Jalal has drowned himself in the river Lethe. 😕

Personally, I believe this is how the track will proceed. Jalal may actually be attracted to Atifa, who knows.

(Akbar did get attracted to and marry the beautiful wife of Shaikh Abdul Wasi after getting her divorced from her husband.)

What this Atifa's role is, is a mystery. She may end up in his harem, like Wasi's wife.

Note: Viewers are already so fed up of Atifa that EK may not dare to show her a s along-term harem inmate. So the marriage, if it happens, may be a short-term contract or a drama or Atifa may be killed.

Atifa may be sent to kill Jalal / Jodha and babies. (If this is so, she has certainly not taken any steps in this direction so far.)

Or Atifa may be Ruq's pawn to separate JJ and kill Jodha's babies. (In that case, the tables seem turned against Ruq herself, who stands to lose her BEK title, if Jalal abdicates the throne.)

Ultimately, it may be Jodha who reveals the true face of Atifa to Jalal and saves him from certain doom. An indicator to this is Salima's advice to Jodha to "get back Jalal".


Abdication Drama

I don't understand why Jalal has to leave the throne to marry a woman. He was powerful enough to be considered the shadow of Allah on earth. He was above law.

The real Akbar did marry a woman (^^^) after getting her divorced (citing a law by Genghis Khan, his ancestor, that if an emperor desired a woman, her husband had to leave her).

No one dared to accuse the real Akbar of zinakari.

So this talk of leaving the throne, like Henry the VIII, is way too OTT. 🤢





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Posted: 11 years ago
Very well Ayushi,I like your relationships understanding and that learning from each other is a valid point
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

Radhika,

Did you watch the Episode.?.
I DID watch, and i could see your Post coming out to be True..Jalal won't emerge Wise...This is NOT CLEVER-ness as per what i know...This is a Self-Destruction Process BEYOND redemption...

Salima Begum's advice to Jodha was a BIG NOTICE to us...
Kuch to hone wala hai... ;p

^^^These were my random thoughts.. ;p



On a serious note, following are my views on today's Episode...


If i liked anything today, it was ONLY TodarMal..GRACE trickles DOWN from that MAN's advices...

Jalal - Faking(?) , but i am not enjoying this.. Reason --> At the cost of / Rather, for his wife.?. Which i am not getting...I simply FAIL to see this attempt JUST to unmask Atifa...I don't see here any Clever Emperor, rather a Emperor who SEEMS "" insensitive "" ..!!...I am NOT enjoying this portrayal...

At one time CV's give Dialogue that Emperor is above ALL, next moment, the actions of Jalal these days just to UNmask Atifa make HIM go down as weak person devoid of ideas... He could send Jodha to Sikri, for protection..Even if he is faking, he can assign BANDIS to Jodha for her care, or JUST tell Salima to take her care... Seems, She has ONLY Moti..
CV's did the UNthinkable in Khyber-Jodha track..What can say here.?. Then, they are NOW hell bent at Experimenting With An Emperor...

Salima Begum is a graceful lady...She and her advice, are always BALANCED...
Liked Zakira's Loyalty...

Ruqaiya AGAIN did NOT tell Jalal that Amanullah came to meet Atifa..But is this NEW.?. ;p
She tries to take advantage...LOL..And, in the END , even she was not comfortable with Jalal doing ""THAT""..

BTW, one thing became CLEAR.. LOL.. Who loves what.?. ROFL..
Ruqaiya -- Her BEK Status..
Jodha -- ONLY her husband..

OMG...And precap's Dialogue was really over my head, that due to " HIS humiliation by Jodha " in Public , he is marrying Atifa..Though, i will wait to see...

Personally, Tedha Jalal was when , he took everything INTO account and acted in a shrewd manner in the Ratanpur Quila Track...And, that Jodha was also upto the Mark..She gave to MA in her own STYLE... There "" Jalal was thinking about EVERYONE's prestige "" , and Jodha was with HER HUSBAND.

But his Jalal is NOT Tedha, and one thing i detest is the use of a Pregnant Lady as a BAIT(supposedly)...
CV's need BETTER Ideas...


Super post Abhay.. Really agree with you on every wors..CVS need better ideas.. This track is just JO humiliation track.. just unbearable.. and using his pregnant wife as a bait is untolerable by any standards.. Hate this .. Wish I had known someone from this CV team.. would have really blasted them left,right centre.. for showing such ridiculous tracks and tarnishing the image of two respectable royals beyond reapir.. But Alas ..
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Posted: 11 years ago
Why did Jalal Leave the DEK on being Summoned by Atifa?

Was there any need for Jalal to leave the DEK and go meet Atifa? He could have told the messenger to tell her that he would meet her after the DEK. I have never seen him leave the DEK for anyone before, not even Ruqaiyya or Jodha.😲
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Why did Jalal Leave the DEK on being Summoned by Atifa?

Was there any need for Jalal to leave the DEK and go meet Atifa? He could have told the messenger to tell her that he would meet her after the DEK. I have never seen him leave the DEK for anyone before, not even Ruqaiyya or Jodha.😲


Radhika, Please read, Mansi thread, Mansi Maddi, My post you will get your ques ans.
some more, Tammy.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

GM, Abhay!

No, I didn't watch the episode - just read the WU.

Even at this moment, there are two paths down which the story can go.

1. Jalal is faking.

What a twister of a plan Jalal seems to be acting (pun intended) upon! He comes across as most insensitive and UNGRATEFUL. He must know that if he is alive to romance Atifa today, it is because of Jodha. (Ruq must also know that if she is still BEK today, it's because of Jodha.)

I DO NOT accept the theory of jadu tona / hypnosis. Men are fully capable of being uncaring of pregnant wives and unborn babies and taking out all their frustrations on these hapless creatures, whilst being completely in their senses. They do not even feel remorse / guilt later and conveniently pin the blame on the wife, because a wife is tied to her husband and has no escape, no matter how he behaves with her.

(You know, in our community, a man ties a coarse "rassi" around his wife's waist during the wedding rituals. I asked my mom at the time of my wedding the significance of this rope tying act. She said a man ties the rope around a woman and takes her home the way he would take cattle, bought from the marketplace, home. A wife is as good as cattle to a man.)

I still stand by my words that NO JUSTIFICATION will be shown. (At the end of the vish drinking track, when Jalal enters Jodha's hojra for the first time after she gains consciousness, he mumbles that there is no need to look back and go into apologies.)

A man, esp an emperor, can do anything in the name of catching culprits without having to answer his wife for anything.

(What I do not understand is why does a powerful emperor have to do everything himself? What do his noblemen do? Didn't Akbar have "knights" like King Arthur?

Even if he has to do everything himself, why can't he simply ask the suspect to spill everything. Was Akbar so merciful that he couldn't employ third-degree, if required?)

2. Jalal is oblivious to everything.

You said yourself Jalal has drowned himself in the river Lethe. 😕

Personally, I believe this is how the track will proceed. Jalal may actually be attracted to Atifa, who knows.

(Akbar did get attracted to and marry the beautiful wife of Shaikh Abdul Wasi after getting her divorced from her husband.)

What this Atifa's role is, is a mystery. She may end up in his harem, like Wasi's wife.

Note: Viewers are already so fed up of Atifa that EK may not dare to show her a s along-term harem inmate. So the marriage, if it happens, may be a short-term contract or a drama or Atifa may be killed.

Atifa may be sent to kill Jalal / Jodha and babies. (If this is so, she has certainly not taken any steps in this direction so far.)

Or Atifa may be Ruq's pawn to separate JJ and kill Jodha's babies. (In that case, the tables seem turned against Ruq herself, who stands to lose her BEK title, if Jalal abdicates the throne.)

Ultimately, it may be Jodha who reveals the true face of Atifa to Jalal and saves him from certain doom. An indicator to this is Salima's advice to Jodha to "get back Jalal".


Abdication Drama

I don't understand why Jalal has to leave the throne to marry a woman. He was powerful enough to be considered the shadow of Allah on earth. He was above law.

The real Akbar did marry a woman (^^^) after getting her divorced (citing a law by Genghis Khan, his ancestor, that if an emperor desired a woman, her husband had to leave her).

No one dared to accuse the real Akbar of zinakari.

So this talk of leaving the throne, like Henry the VIII, is way too OTT. 🤢








Nice Post..Will add my views soon.. :)

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: neeshaa16


Super post Abhay.. Really agree with you on every wors..CVS need better ideas.. This track is just JO humiliation track.. just unbearable.. and using his pregnant wife as a bait is untolerable by any standards.. Hate this .. Wish I had known someone from this CV team.. would have really blasted them left,right centre.. for showing such ridiculous tracks and tarnishing the image of two respectable royals beyond reapir.. But Alas ..



Thanks Neeshaa...It's getting over my nerves now.. I want this track to end soon..

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



Thanks Neeshaa...It's getting over my nerves now.. I want this track to end soon..



New Promo,

Atifas motive is to kill jalal
Qazi asks jalal niqah qubool hai?
Atifa kills jalal and Jalal falls on ground. All begums shout
atifa says now my mission is complete.

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