Will Jalal Ever Stop Playing Around with Jodha's Love? Updated 20/8

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RadhikaS0

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Posted: 11 years ago

#151

19th Aug Episode Update

In last night's episode, Jalal just seemed even more insufferable than earlier.

As if shouting at Jodha was not enough, or to balance the scales among the three khas begums, he roundly snubbed Salima and Ruqaiyya too. Towards the end, he shouted some more at Ruqiayya, questioning what she had done for him as a wife and declared his intentions to divorce Jodha after his marriage with Atifa.

I cannot understand where all this "anger" or "harshness" is coming from. Even when he hated Jodha extremely, he never used such language with her. Without sounding crude, he still managed to convey his emotions to her and "put" her in place.

In his most angry outbursts with Ruqaiyya, Jalal still remained in control of his tongue. When Ruqaiyya made Jodha vacate her hojra, Jalal got the hojra back for Jodha without appearing to be sympathetic to Jodha or insulting to Ruqaiyya. That was TE. A man who could get done what he wanted to without anyone being able to guess his intentions.

Yesterday too, he could have simply gritted his teeth in anger and told Ruqaiyya that Atifa was going to be his beloved wife and another or maybe the only khaas begum and that Ruqaiyya had better show Atifa respect and courtesy. Or that he expected Ruq to be cordial to Atifa and take care of her personally in the harem. He would have "put" Ruq in her place without appearing vulgar.

And what's this about talaq? Jalal perhaps does not know that if a person is too hurt, then that person becomes emotionless and stone-like. If he goes on putting nails in Jodha's coffin, then pretty soon, she will be buried before his plan bears results.

Does Jodha know about the plan?

If the CVs show that Jodha knew about Jalal's plan and let him humiliate her like that in the name of drama, then I will lose respect for her character the way I have lost respect for Jalal's character in this track.

Yes, it would have been great if Jalal had taken not only Jodha but even Hamida, Salima, Todarmal, Atga and Man Singh into confidence about his plan.

I loved Jalal and Jodha both during their mutual ghrina phase. They were rude with each other but within tolerable limits. Jalal never overstepped the line of decency while talking to Jodha.

At least, in the Ben track and Sujamal track, he had some "personal" reason to be upset with Jodha and shout at her. (though that was not right too, but still he had some personal issues with her.)

Now, he is only apparently saving her from attack. There was no need to go OTT while showing his "hatred" for her. He could have shown his indifference and ghrina the way he had shown earlier.

This plan, complicated as it may be, is full of loopholes.

Anything could have happened to Jodha and her babies.
Anything can happen to his sultanat now with various states getting ready to revolt.
It involved extreme cheapening of women.
Anything could have happened to Jalal himself.

If Jalal had been attacked and killed during the shikar, would anyone have known of the plan or been able to get the throne back for Jodha's babies?

It's hard to believe that Jodha knows the plan. If she did, she would be more proactive.

Even if Jodha knows the plan, what can she do if someone attacks Jalal? He should have Atga and Todarmal in the loop so that they can step up his security and that of Jodha.

Conclusion

I would have loved to get back a TE who can fool his enemies without doing anything much, just by playing mind games with them, the way he did during the Ratanpur fort matter.

I lost a bit of respect for Jodha's character after the Khyber kidnap drama. I have lost a lot of respect for Jalal after this track.

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Donjas

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Posted: 11 years ago

#152

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0
19th Aug Episode Update

In last night's episode, Jalal just seemed even more insufferable than earlier.

As if shouting at Jodha was not enough, or to balance the scales among the three khas begums, he roundly snubbed Salima and Ruqaiyya too. Towards the end, he shouted some more at Ruqiayya, questioning what she had done for him as a wife and declared his intentions to divorce Jodha after his marriage with Atifa.

I cannot understand where all this "anger" or "harshness" is coming from. Even when he hated Jodha extremely, he never used such language with her. Without sounding crude, he still managed to convey his emotions to her and "put" her in place.

In his most angry outbursts with Ruqaiyya, Jalal still remained in control of his tongue. When Ruqaiyya made Jodha vacate her hojra, Jalal got the hojra back for Jodha without appearing to be sympathetic to Jodha or insulting to Ruqaiyya. That was TE. A man who could get done what he wanted to without anyone being able to guess his intentions.

Yesterday too, he could have simply gritted his teeth in anger and told Ruqaiyya that Atifa was going to be his beloved wife and another or maybe the only khaas begum and that Ruqaiyya had better show Atifa respect and courtesy. Or that he expected Ruq to be cordial to Atifa and take care of her personally in the harem. He would have "put" Ruq in her place without appearing vulgar.

And what's this about talaq? Jalal perhaps does not know that if a person is too hurt, then that person becomes emotionless and stone-like. If he goes on putting nails in Jodha's coffin, then pretty soon, she will be buried before his plan bears results.

Does Jodha know about the plan?

If the CVs show that Jodha knew about Jalal's plan and let him humiliate her like that in the name of drama, then I will lose respect for her character the way I have lost respect for Jalal's character in this track.

Yes, it would have been great if Jalal had taken not only Jodha but even Hamida, Salima, Todarmal, Atga and Man Singh into confidence about his plan.

I loved Jalal and Jodha both during their mutual ghrina phase. They were rude with each other but within tolerable limits. Jalal never overstepped the line of decency while talking to Jodha.

At least, in the Ben track and Sujamal track, he had some "personal" reason to be upset with Jodha and shout at her. (though that was not right too, but still he had some personal issues with her.)

Now, he is only apparently saving her from attack. There was no need to go OTT while showing his "hatred" for her. He could have shown his indifference and ghrina the way he had shown earlier.

This plan, complicated as it may be, is full of loopholes.

Anything could have happened to Jodha and her babies.
Anything can happen to his sultanat now with various states getting ready to revolt.
It involved extreme cheapening of women.
Anything could have happened to Jalal himself.
If Jalal had been attacked and killed during the shikar, would anyone have known of the plan or been able to get the throne back for Jodha's babies?

It's hard to believe that Jodha knows the plan. If she did, she would be more proactive.

Even if Jodha knows the plan, what can she do if someone attacks Jalal? He should have Atga and Todarmal in the loop so that they can step up his security and that of Jodha.

Conclusion

I would have loved to get back a TE who can fool his enemies without doing anything much, just by playing mind games with them, the way he did during the Ratanpur fort matter.

I lost a bit of respect for Jodha's character after the Khyber kidnap drama. I have lost a lot of respect for Jalal after this track.

Well written. I concur with your views. This plan of Jalal has loopholes galore. Even trying to analyze it makes one feel foolish.

There is nothing more pathetic than a very stupid man pretending to be clever, Jalal in this track has been shown to be just that. If the real Akbar, who crafted alliances and made grand strategies, was like this, he would not survived his early years.

I am just hoping for this track and it's associated nonsense to be over as soon as possible. Then we will see what comes next. It will interesting to note the TRP's after all this is good and done.

Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago

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RadhikaS0

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Posted: 11 years ago

#153

Ruqaiyya and Jalal

I do not generally like Ruqaiyyya's character because she comes across as a scheming and jealous/insecure woman.

But I am shifting my perspective to look at Ruqaiyya as a woman trapped in a loveless marriage.

She has got power and auda from this marriage. She has luxury and privileges and unlimited access to Jalal. She can get away with everything, without being questioned for anything.

Yet, there is one thing she lacks and that is true love. Just as Jalal, in spite of being a powerful emperor, was still missing something that changed him and his destiny, she too misses true, purifying love in her life. Unlike Jalal, she can never hope for it either.

She is also never going to be a mother.

Just as I felt Jodha was emotionally low and all alone in Agra in this track, and needed someone to assure her of being there for her, Ruqaiyya too is actually alone and has no one to assure her of being there to listen to her talk about her insecurities.

Sometimes, I do get irritated by Ruqaiyya hankering after power and auda and the BEK title. Even day before yesterday, she was concerned about losing her BEK title when Jalal announced he was ready to abdicate.

But, again, I wonder, is this longing for a title and power to control others stemming out of her insecurity and lack of love? Just as babies hold on to a blanket for comfort and security, she seems to be hanging on to the only constant factors in her life so far - power and auda.

Jalal has never been in her control as far as his personal life is concerned. He has kept marrying for various reasons and given her increasingly less time / attention. She knows she cannot hold him to herself. But a woman needs something to hold on to for reassurance. Ruqaiyya is perhaps holding on to her auda to reassure herself that no matter how many begums come into the harem, she is still Jalal's first and chief wife.

The power she has over the harem gives her a security blanket that she is in charge and she can control the lives of many people, as per her wishes, even if she can't control her husband.

***********************************************************************

On many occasions, I have wanted Jalal to punish her for her transgressions and expose her mistakes to others, just as Jodha's mistakes are always in the spotlight. I would have loved to hear him ask her what she had done for him as a wife and if she cared more for him or her power.

But yesterday, I didn't like it at all, because the context was all wrong.

If Ruq is caught doing something wrong, and then Jalal pulls her up, it would seem justified and acceptable. But Jalal shouting at Ruqaiyya in order to please his new fiancee is just OTT. It is as bad as his snubbing Jodha, Salima or Hamida.

Why does Jalal think he can shout at a wife in public?

He could have asked to be left alone with Ruqaiyya and then told her that she had better get used to Atifa and fast.

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Will the CVs ever let go of their penchant for showing women being insulted publicly, as if they have no self-respect or emotions?

I wish to see how Jalal behaves with Maham, if she is indeed the mastermind. If he had punished her suitably the last time he discovered her reality, he would not have to see this day. At least, this time, it remains to be seen how he punishes her.

No matter how he punishes her, he can not undo the words he spoke to Jodha.

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Donjas

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Posted: 11 years ago

#154

Radhika, we think so alike that it is eerie, but of course I could never write so well. It has been a treat to read your viewpoint and Abhay's.

According to me, the following things are needed for a good historical-

1 The degree of focus on the serial should remain constant. Here it is apparent that this serial has received lower attention over time. That translates to a poor product.

2 The CV's must have respect for the characters, especially the lead characters. It is very apparent that this is not so for our serial, the way the Rajvanshi kings were demanding independence yesterday as if Akbar was some rogue tyrant and not Akbar the great, who was known for amicable relations with his subsidiary kingdoms. Once respect for the hero is gone then self imposed limits on depiction are frequently crossed and that leads to disaster.

3. The CV's need to think things through rationally and coherently. In this track, it is obvious that the CV's have no idea what they are doing. They introduced this track as a kind of shock to the system with the expectation that it will repeat the great ratings of the Ben track. They went overboard in their depiction. Their belief was that the badder they show Akbar, the more dramatic it will be, and the more it will be liked. They were willing to destroy a carefully cultivated romance in this belief. The ratings turned out to be a dud and now the CV's are scurrying to save face.

4 The director problem. There are too many directors preparing this broth and once again the result is a spoiled product.

The good thing is, all these issues can be remedied provided you have the desire to do it. If 'Jodha Akbar' is truly Ekta's 'dream project' then, it can be done. If not I am hoping for a quick closure to the serial.

Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago

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RSlovesJA

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Posted: 11 years ago

#155

superb update dear.. 👏 👏 👏 👏

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ayushimehra

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Posted: 11 years ago

#156

Radhika, My little prediction.😆

But i doubt, Ruk , She is also in this plan. but acc to her Jalal will not marry with Atifa.

Acc to her, Jodha will be dead, But jalal changed all plan of Ruk.

I think, Maham , +ruk two culprits.

Maham also not knows, Jalal will ready to Marry with Atifa.

Her plan was, Atifa will be kill jodha kids. & then No Heirs. Hammam scene indicate that.

But seeing jalal is going to attracting with Atifa, Plan changed,( this Ruk not Knows.)

Maham used Atifa if she will Marry with Jalal jalal will be sure dethrone. Then benifits goes to

Ak. Atifa will be live with her husband then.

1 Dethrone Jalal

2. Marry Nigar with AK,

3 CB point, Nigar will be Blackmailed.

4 CB property automatticaly, given to be Nigar.

But Now, they used Atifa, to Dethrone Jalal.

but now Cb will be found, & Maham truth will out.

So she will be Banished, for Delhi.

Radhika adding more, (same Mansi thread )

, i think, if Show is going to Leap, for some months, Then Maham banishment is necessary, As you Wrote one previous post, Ak, or Atgha Death scene, has beeb shot.

So Angery. Ak will Murder Atgha.

Second if, Show is not going on Leap, then Maham involvement , Acc To spolier, is Sure

which punshment, goes to Maham.😕.

Ruk Punishment is also necessary, because she was forgiven after Salim Birth.

But Yes yesterday Episode was, EKK TEER SEE SOO SHIKAR.😆,

But Language used by Jalal was Harsh.

News spread whole over Inda, & Outside, So After this Jalal Impresson will leave effect, More.

But cause of this Atifa, Cost paid by All More.

so Acc to CV when King does a imp work, All realtions, stands side By.

But is Atifa is so Much Big culprit. Jalal using so much big secreat Mission. Lets see.😆

Liked Jodha Attitude, +If husband will do Wrong work, then wife will right to Stop.👏 👏

Ruk scene First time, she insulted front of many ladies. (if we always insult others some time reality check needed.)

But Last scene, is Jodha understanding, +jodha knows Jalal is doing some Plan wise.

i think, jalal not told jodha about Plan , but her sick sense indicating Her.

MS already watched surrung way, or TM or MS knows jalal is pretending. lets see.

Cannons for i think, for out side enemies. because Bagavat has been started.

Talak word is Jalal not knows, He can't leave jodha easily, because Akdha marries happened , acc to hindu Custom.

Advice to Cv Jalal Should Learn , importance of Saat Phere+Marriage.

But Hurting so much sentiments;;;;;;;;;;;;;; of Jodha Why ?

is Atifa or Ruk accepting Jalal will speak three times, Talak talak will happened.

Ruk weeping showing this. she is faking.

So Story reaching, where Pardafah is going to happen any time.

But How this incidence, effecting Whole India +IF,😆

MC +Maham working combind, Then HM also standing this Line,

Edited by ayushimehra - 11 years ago

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Abhay

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Posted: 11 years ago

#157

Radhika,
Fantastic Views...
Let me write my take, in my 15 minutes Break..
I can make 1 post today.. :)

Here you go...

You know what, i can understand Jalal is "ALSO" in Pain, as Jodha...And, hence we need to understand his DARD(?) also..
BUT the thing is, there was NO need to ENACT this Drama at the First Place.. Isliye iske aage main kya bolun..?.. ;p

The thing REDUCES to one thing, and that is, i can NOT digest that the Shahenshah of Hindustan who was so Shrewd and Smart enough to give and Take the Ratanpur Fort ""TWICE"" in FEW Minutes, has been reduced to such a "thing" that he has to put up an act(?) Just to catch up a Spy.?.
I can't give any explantion for this. LOL.

1. Which "top ka gola" is Atifa, that he has to do all this ' Natkiya Karyakram ' ..?.. Most probably a pawn of MA, maybe MC is also involved..

2. Kings have so many resources / power to get out the truth in a split second, but here, OTT / 007 tactics are ROFLing me..

3. BTW, If kings start to Romance(Fake.?) everY so-called assasin for his wife / Sultanate / etc. , then ho gayi Hindustan par Hukumat..!!.. ;p

4. What explains his OWN self talk in his hojra that why i am "falling" for Atifa.?.. [ To raise our BP.?., and we may get a OTT reason for this also in the End of track..LOL..]

5. CV's have not left any space for TOTAL justification, whatever be the reasons given at the climax..As they go overboard...

a. No need to shout at Kids in PRIVATE..
b. No need to talk of Talaaq in Public.. { It had a BIG meaning, whatsoever.. }
c. Why DID the CV's show Jalal LOOOKKKing at Atifa's Bare back on jungle outing.?. Kya PROVE karna chahte the CV's.?. [Oh yes, i know he is Shahenshah, he can do anything..BUT...After all this, THESE CV's also WANT us to Believe that he is JUST Faking.?.. LOL..]
d. There were many acts which were HIGH on Melo-Drama...Meri samaj ke bahar hain..

As i said in previous post, that CV's need better ideas to give us an Emperor with Functional Brains...This is NOT the way out...
Just ask / talk ANY person with an "administrative" BG/acumen..I am SURE the approach would be Different(even in this century.), as i have asked this to many.. ;p
You will understand what i mean.. :)

CV's can NOT give us that Jalal and Jodha who were HIGH on Self-Esteem and YET behaved Royally and showed a Rational and Tedha thinking, which be-fitted a Tedha Jalal and FIERY Jodha... Right now, the CV's who are working at BT are following a path of putting one character at a pedestal , mostly the ONE queen, and make the other act "JUST"(?).

CV's have a problem...They send Jodha out of the palace kabhi bhi and then give us a charged Jalal to ask ALL SORT of questions to her.. They are hell bent at trying something or the other to keep the BP / SUSPENSE up...They should understand, ki this is NOT a run of mill Soap...People expect some degree of normality..Clear Clues should be revealed on a time to time basis...But they understand ONLY the bhasha of TRP's ... Did you see so many promos this WEEK, back to back.?. LOL..

Finally, EVEN in reality, Jalal caught MA and Adham via a VERY "smart and FAST act" and he kept everything at a NICE pace, which i will update later. Not like this ACT of moving at snail's pace.."That" act of REAL Jalal itself gives me ENOUGH ammunition NOT to digest the so-called kingdom-saving / life-saving / kids-saving, etc-saving, act of REEL Jalal...Kabhi BHI nahi...I FAILED to see an "Authoritative and Smart Emperor" at Work...And could only see a LOT of careless-ness...Revolts can lead to various repurcussions...Even in reality, during the Maulvis Revolt of late 1570's , there was a lot of problem...And there was a SERIOUS threat for 1 year...
And right now, Jalal's empire is an infant in 1563, so how can such a BIG Risk be taken NOWWW...????...EmperorS do not act like this...CV's can show Everything as planned (LOL)...BUT the so-called Revolts of Kingdoms as far as Bengal(as per show), is serious..Isn't it.?. Bengal rulers repelled Mughals twice(Munim Khan and Daud Khan.)...They were powerful Afghans...Is this called Smart-ness to expose the infant Kingdom from ALL SIDES of Hindustan..???..

Ek Atifa(MA/Adham/MC/Sharif whomsoever) ko pakadne ke liye kya Drama kiya hua hai..?..I Can't Justify this even by 16th Cen standards(and would like to see if anyone else justifies it here), aur 21st Cen mein to kabhi nahi...Till date i supported LOT of tracks...But yeh to HADD hai...These are my personal views. :)

@Donjas..
Agree with your views... Perhaps, the revolt of other chieftains/kings were shown to give an impression that, when the Empire is IN Danger, then everyone runs for a greener pasture...But, yes i agree, ONLY Man Singh's words MATCHED the Honor / Ideals of Rajvanshis, of NOT to cheat the Person , in whom they have Sworned their Loyalty. (Though, we have 1-2 disagreements in history, like the Betrayal of a chief of Rana Sanga to the Rana against Rana Sanga's battle with Babur, in 1st battle of Panipat, etc. but i am talking about Akbar's time.)..
That scene was NOT good...They DID show ruler of Bengal revolting, which was fine, but why did they show, Rajvanshies revolting, is beyond my explanation...As they were NOT the aggressors..And ALWAYS supported Akbar in HIS Wars...That was another piece of Faulty Execution..
Don't worry, the Serial shows hopes of improvement.. :) Falling TRP's are the Key... But the Creatives need to Understand they are depicting SOME OF the BEST Royalties from Hindustan, and need to be careful. This track till now was not upto the mark...I mean, to Bring back the Brains of an Emperor, this was NOT the right time / path and yes NOT the NICE depiction of Royal Ladies being treated like this...

@All...
Even i am for a BALANCED and a Strong and Smart JJ, but not like this.. :)

Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago

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RadhikaS0

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Posted: 11 years ago

#158

Originally posted by: Donjas

Well written. I concur with your views. This plan of Jalal has loopholes galore. Even trying to analyze it makes one feel foolish.

There is nothing more pathetic than a very stupid man pretending to be clever, Jalal in this track has been shown to be just that. If the real Akbar, who crafted alliances and made grand strategies, was like this, he would not survived his early years.

I am just hoping for this track and it's associated nonsense to be over as soon as possible. Then we will see what comes next. It will interesting to note the TRP's after all this is good and done.

Thanks, Donjas!

@bold: Totally agree. He had so many enemies surrounding him within his family and in the court. I doubt if he always donned the cap of Sherlock Holmes himself without trusting anyone to investigate on his behalf. And if he had acted so unbearable just to catch some criminals, those of his close family who remained loyal to him till the end, including his 3 queens and mother and Man Singh, would have left him to his devices long back.

Next should be the discovery of Chand Begum and yet another expose of Maham. Wonder how many times Maham will be exposed and forgiven before she finally dies!

The Nigar mystery still remains. Whether she is on the side of good or evil and whether she has any connection with Maham / MC.

Do you also feel that the CVs do not script a track completely before starting it? That they just start it and then go along as per TRPs and audience reactions?

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MaddyO

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Posted: 11 years ago

#159

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0
Ruqaiyya and Jalal

I do not generally like Ruqaiyyya's character because she comes across as a scheming and jealous/insecure woman.
But I am shifting my perspective to look at Ruqaiyya as a woman trapped in a loveless marriage.

She has got power and auda from this marriage. She has luxury and privileges and unlimited access to Jalal. She can get away with everything, without being questioned for anything.

Yet, there is one thing she lacks and that is true love. Just as Jalal, in spite of being a powerful emperor, was still missing something that changed him and his destiny, she too misses true, purifying love in her life. Unlike Jalal, she can never hope for it either.

She is also never going to be a mother.

Just as I felt Jodha was emotionally low and all alone in Agra in this track, and needed someone to assure her of being there for her, Ruqaiyya too is actually alone and has no one to assure her of being there to listen to her talk about her insecurities.

Sometimes, I do get irritated by Ruqaiyya hankering after power and auda and the BEK title. Even day before yesterday, she was concerned about losing her BEK title when Jalal announced he was ready to abdicate.

But, again, I wonder, is this longing for a title and power to control others stemming out of her insecurity and lack of love? Just as babies hold on to a blanket for comfort and security, she seems to be hanging on to the only constant factors in her life so far - power and auda.

Jalal has never been in her control as far as his personal life is concerned. He has kept marrying for various reasons and given her increasingly less time / attention. She knows she cannot hold him to herself. But a woman needs something to hold on to for reassurance. Ruqaiyya is perhaps holding on to her auda to reassure herself that no matter how many begums come into the harem, she is still Jalal's first and chief wife.

The power she has over the harem gives her a security blanket that she is in charge and she can control the lives of many people, as per her wishes, even if she can't control her husband.

***********************************************************************

On many occasions, I have wanted Jalal to punish her for her transgressions and expose her mistakes to others, just as Jodha's mistakes are always in the spotlight. I would have loved to hear him ask her what she had done for him as a wife and if she cared more for him or her power.

But yesterday, I didn't like it at all, because the context was all wrong.

If Ruq is caught doing something wrong, and then Jalal pulls her up, it would seem justified and acceptable. But Jalal shouting at Ruqaiyya in order to please his new fiancee is just OTT. It is as bad as his snubbing Jodha, Salima or Hamida.

Why does Jalal think he can shout at a wife in public?

He could have asked to be left alone with Ruqaiyya and then told her that she had better get used to Atifa and fast.

******************************************************************************

Will the CVs ever let go of their penchant for showing women being insulted publicly, as if they have no self-respect or emotions?

I wish to see how Jalal behaves with Maham, if she is indeed the mastermind. If he had punished her suitably the last time he discovered her reality, he would not have to see this day. At least, this time, it remains to be seen how he punishes her.

No matter how he punishes her, he can not undo the words he spoke to Jodha.

Radhika even I did not much enjoy Jalal shouting at Ruk in yesterday's episode. To think I have been hoping for so long for Ruk's bhandafod especially after the fake pregnancy track. I wanted to long for Jalal to do this.

CVs behave like sadists and show extreme torture of Jodha and verbal abuse in alternate tracks. It is getting so pathetic and boring.
For no reason or justification I will feel, how Jalal behaved with pregnant Jodha was right. Not his pretending to love Atifa - but his lashing at Jodha. I wish CVs had stopped Jalal at declaring love for Atifa. It would still have been as much agonizing to Jodha. He would have come across far more dignified. The shouting at unborn babies was just the most disgusting thing.

The way CVs depicted Ruk ever since Jodha came back to Agra - she has spoiled every single special moment of Jalal Jodha from first hug to SR morning to their new intimacy.

Ruk sank to such extreme depths in the faking pregnancy track and to see she was not punished was just pathetic. Ruk was torturing viewers for such long time and her non punishment was like rubbing salt.

Still when Jalal shouted at Ruk yesterday, it was just pathetic cos the way it was done. When Jalal needed to be strict with Ruk, to make her aware he just brushed off her plots as jealousy and CVs even got Jodha to give her pardon in fake pregnancy track.

The punishment should have been when she was at her worst behavior. If not punishment her faking pregnancy truth should have been told to HB, GB, SB atleast and some imp Begums like Ruksar. So that they are aware to what extent Ruk went against Jodha in her jealousy.

Their knowledge alone would have been enough for Ruk to look at herself, what she was in their eyes about her would have made her become aware.

Instead Ruk has always been allowed to be insulting, boorish, violent and get away with her plots. To the extent that viewers started feeling disgusted with her.

CVs did same in MA track - her downfall was a joke and if THIS entire track is plotted by MA then instead of being Teda Jalal runs the risk of viewers thinking it is all because he did not punish MA properly the first time.

CB MA track is different cos Jalal did not have any knowledge of CB Nigar or any farman. So whatever MA did it is not on him.

If CVs had kept Ruk just gray and not so OTT all three Jalal-Jodha-Ruk relationships could have got such different dynamics.

CVs show Jodha trying again and again and Jalal could not care less how much Ruk insults Jodha as long he does not have to take sides and this is what made viewers angry at Ruk more.

Like yesterday's scene - if Jodha Ruk relationship could have been handled better by Jalal by reining in Ruk it would have been far more interesting and mature.

I am NOT talking about history here - less Abhay tells me about the 7 years stop talking etc.!!!

I think now when Ruk sees what all Jalal did for Jodha and her theory of Jalal moving on from Jodha was wrong, Jalal is going to stick by Jodha's side and his love for Jodha is strong - that might push Ruk over the edge.

I want to see Ruk punished first then she learns of MA hand in her MC and her remaining childless. If Ruk changes for better after this knowledge then the relationships would be so much more interesting.

Jalal shouting at Ruk yesterday did not bring much pleasure, it should have been when she was on her worst behavior not when we as viewers felt sympathy for Ruk.

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MaddyO

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Posted: 11 years ago

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I sometimes wonder at why Jodha is given such pathetic dialogues?

Is it something to do with budget? Cos all other characters in JA speak Urdu-Hindi while Jodha's dialogues are in Sanskritized-Hindi. Maybe there is only 1-2 dialogue writers and they were chosen for Urdu expertize but they are just not good enough for Jodha's style of speaking.

I also wonder if there are women in CV's team. How dare they show such pathetic treatment to Jodha and in pregnancy too!

Sometimes it seems different people write for different episodes and have no clue what the character has said!

When Jodha apologized to Jalal and even her trying to justify why she freed Khyber and said sorry for hurting his feelings was all ok. Then why again make Jodha talk to SB about Khyber and some silly stuff?!

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