Will Jalal Ever Stop Playing Around with Jodha's Love? Updated 20/8 - Page 12

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Wonderful post radhika 😊 I agree with evrythng 👍🏼 loved last purple lines 👏 👏


Thanks! 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
Why is JA going against popular expectations?
So many seem to be wondering why JA is committing suicide, why it has such pathetic CVs, why EK is so indifferent to falling TRPs...

The truth is EK knows her audience very well.

We may crib, cry, protest, whatever. We may even stop watching briefly. But we will not give up on the show, as long as it's on air. The pull of the leads (I mean the real characters, not the actors or the reel characters) is so strong that we will continue to watch whatever they dish out in the hope that someday, the show will rise to our expectations.

Earlier, there used to be lollipop scenes of JJ. Now they are replaced by shout-cry scenes along with bittergourd scenes of Jalal and Atifa . We may not like them. But definitely there are people who like them and will continue to watch the show, while crying into their hankies all the while.

How much do TRPs count? I have seen some shows going on with very poor TRPs. At the end of the day, sponsors matter. If EK manages to keep sponsors happy with promises of turnarounds, such dips in TRPs don't matter to her.

From where do we get spoilers? Obviously they are leaked by the PH itself. Just to keep us hooked. Why do Zee people give reassurances to callers with some "positive" news?

Right now, we are hoping this is all a grand plan by TE. We are hoping all the criminals, or at least, Maham / Ruq, will be caught and punished. We are hoping for a grand reunion of JJ after the storm passes over. We will keep getting spoilers/reassurances to this effect so that we keep watching.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



Your lines in BOLD are in total resonance with my feelings at present, about this track... I remember, we 2 were the ONES to propound the Faking/Jadu Tona/ Not in his senses theory, when this Atifa track started in order to JUSTIFY Jalal when the Entire Forum was after him, but the way in which some of Jalal's acts have been displayed leaves an awful taste in my MIND, atleast, and right now I am not happy with what is happening.

If he was faking(which is imminent) then also, during Jungle trip his EYES fixed on Atifa's back while she was dressing at night(?) in her hojra, before the mirror DID NOT / NEVER gave any faking intention(I have not seen that episode, just read some frustrating PMs by many members..) It is outright abhorring to see Jalal like this, and I hold the CV's responsible for creating such a abominable lull here, by creating this EXTREME situation and using a Pregnant Lady as a BAIT.!!!. They go to EXTREMES like this and then IN THE END show their TYPICAL DAILY SOAPS theory that it was the HERO's PLAN.!!!!.

To me the simplest explanation/justification of this act by the CV's is that they are TRYing to do a "La Phoenix" act here. Are they TRYing Re-surrection after ABSOLUTE carnage.?. BUT..the point to which this track has been DRIVEN NOW, ULTIMATELY shows the Failure of an Emperor.. Is he so desperate / weak/helpless, that he needs to DO ALL this DRAMA(?) to EXPOSE a PLAN(or multiple PLANS).?.

Earlier, I had high hopes and I thought Jalal will DEFEAT Khyber somehow(REAL Jalal was a GREAT WRESTLER despite his short height, and used to fight with 2 BIG MUSCLE Men at a time...From Ain-e-Akbari..)..But that was NOT shown..!!.. Anyways...I was quiet but I did not like that..

It appears that Jalal(and CV's) has taken a dip in the Lethe, and Jodha has been forcefully given to the Akheron, followed by her dip in Kokytos, and Monday onwards into the Phlegethon, and the VIEWERS are left with only one choice, i.e., to dive into Styx..!!

Hence, the Track is Accomplished. Kudos CV's...They have NO sense of responsibility towards what they are showing..My brother was asking me, Was Akbar like this.?. And, was Jodha treated like THIS by Akbar - THE GREAT.?.

I did not want to SEE Jodha-Akbar like this..NO JUSTIFICATION.!. Neither Tedha Jalal nor a Crying/Pregnant Jodha..



Abhay,

We were kind of expecting that you may shed some light on the historical aspect of this track, if any.

The CVs sense of responsibility ends with the disclaimer. I never thought I would say this. Nor did I think I would read such a post from you.

We always maintained that the show was not fiction but a dramatised version of history. The present track seems to have affected us too negatively.

Whoever the CVs may be, women in Hindi serials have no value. Either they are scheming "ladies" or crying "ladies". There is no in-between zone for them. So we can have either the ever-scheming, jealous Ruq, or the ever-crying and much-misunderstood Jodha.

I seriously wonder how Salima has been shown to be balanced so far. Wonder when she will get butchered?

As long as the plan works, all is forgiven because it is the hero's plan. I shudder what would have happened if Jodha had learnt of some danger to her kids or to Jalal and behaved like this with Jalal.

PS: Thanks for the reference to Greek mythology. I looked up and learnt something new today. Every black cloud has a silver lining. 😊



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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: neeshaa16



I had spoken to zee a few day ago ..that time he said the total length of the track is three weeks..means this whole week to go... but at least I hope it ends by this week..cant bear to see Jo tortured mentally anymore..


Hope so. If the marriage happens, then it may stretch.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Beautiful song you have used Ayushi.well written


Rashmi, song? 😊

Ayushi,

My main point is this only.

How is it OK for Jalal to be indifferent / upset / angry / fine with Jodha, as and when he pleases? He may be angry with her one moment and hold her hand the next.

Does his holding her hand in public and showing his trust in her make up for all the demeaning things he said to her?

Who is the true Jalal?

The one who says he cannot live without Jodha

or

The one who feels Jodha has abused his love and trust?

This is not the first time since his famous bringing Jodha back from death scene that he has ripped her through verbally. It happened earlier in the Sujamal track and it's happening now.

We are hoping that he may be acting,. it may be some jadu tona or he may be under some spell.

We are happy he held her hand and trusted her.

But as a woman, I know Jodha can never completely erase those harsh words from her psyche, no matter how loving and attentive he may be to her after the track is over. No matter what his intentions may have been. No matter how dangerous the circumstances may have been.

And how long will that phase of loving Jodha continue? Till the next insult Jodha track is scripted.

Who gives the CVs the right to show Jalal playing with Jodha's emotions in this manner and leaving her totally confused as to what's there really in his heart - passionate love or wild anger/hatred?



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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO




This is absolutely mind boggling! Why would Jodha be safer if Jalal is detached from her? 😡
Jodha will still be as much pregnant!!!

I mean it was about his waris being born and that is why Jodha is target cos she is pregnant. If at all Jalal is putting Jodha more at risk by this distance and not caring about her safety! He has put guards for Atifa but NOT for Jodha! What kind of logic CVs think they are showing!


Maddy

That's why he is the TE and the CVs logic is the Teda Logic. We mere mortals with straight logic cannot understand it. So I don't even attempt to. 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek




Radhika,

@Red Underlined...

As far as I know / feel / think , there won't be any BIG Leap...The Leap will be only for the "Twins" Death period, and hence a minor leap of some months...

And, going by ANY TIMELINE, Salim - Anarkali Love Story is NOT going to FIT EVEN in a 15 year Leap...Will write more Later on this. :)

Had there been a LONG Leap in October, then we must be hearing about the Auditions for the NEW CAST who would be playing Salim-Anarkali... ? ... But that did not happen... :)

And, there are many more reasons...I don't think any BIG Leap is going to Happen..

BTW, All this HOOPLA and falling TRP's is due to the CV's of PH, seems that the Earlier CV's have been roped in to the NEW Serials of Ekta.. And, now have been replaced by some inexperienced / naive ones...



Abhay

Frankly I don't care if they stick to the present point in time only and drag it on and on for next 5 years, take a leap forward to 21st century or go back to the Stone Age. I don't watch it anymore.

I have also shifted along with the CVs to EK's new show. And believe me, it's much better right now than JA. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: tamy267


I so agree with u Abhay...u know today I was watching a mashup of JA epis till Benazir...and I realized how much the show and the characters r butchered..they lost all the flavors of the leads..in fact their most of the traits r gone now..I acutally cant connect the old Jalal and Jodha with this Jalal and Jodha.😭
@Red that is what EK CVs do in all her shows...they go over board in creating suspense and convincing audience and when audience curse the character (who pretending to be bad) as much as can do, at the end they show the character is very smart and explains all his/her actions in flashbacks..I've watched 90% of EK shows so I am used with this😆🤢..but playing with historical figures that too Akbar and HK is too much! but u know that is what we r complaining, normal audience view JJ as normal soap characters..they dont bother what is done to Akbar and his Royal Queen! they dont pay much attention to it..they only take the fun!😕

good thing is many audience stopped watching it given TRPs dropped and also I can see my mother, friends also stopped watching, but there is also another group of audience who started watching JA from this track!😆😆 so diversity of taste is there u see.😕

I personally want justifications at the end which we can buy and be convinced and satisfied from mind and heart that ok this is good..all should be at peace in the end.😊


and I do hope my old JJ return from this



Tamy

What justification did Jalal give to Jodha after the Ben track? None.

If we think CVs will give justification now, as to why Jalal behaved the way he did with Jodha, and why, while he was thus behaving with her, he flirted shamelessly with Atifa, then we will be disappointed. In fact, CVs don't bother to even tie up loose ends when they wind up a track.

I agree with you that most people take JA as fictional characters and don't care about how they are being shown.

In fact, for many people, this is how the real JA must have been. I know, because my mom-in-law believes everything that is shown is the absolute truth.

This is the tragedy. The Cvs are playing with history and teaching false information about JA to a gullible public that has little knowledge of history.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


Simple Abhay
To make her the the winner in diversities. The show is that queen centric. But unfortunately it is Jalal's image that suffers most, not the queen's. He ends up looking dumb and she comes out in trumps.

Real Akbar would NEVER have treated MUZ that way.
Also
Real MUZ would never have been so insolent.
Real Ruqaiya would never have faked pregnancy.
Real Mughal army would never have been so incapable.
Real Akbar would never have been so dumb.



The queen's image is suffering here! She is being shown to be always opposing her husband for trivial reasons, always going out of her way to help unscrupulous people, taking insults lying down, and attempting suicide in almost every other track.

What trumps are we talking of here? A Todarmal's wife coming up to her in the end and saluting her is not trumps. Trumps would be if her character was properly threshed out and she is shown to be the kind of intelligent and resourceful woman she was.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


I am here with both my hands raised in response to your questions. I thought the show was about a strong smart rake helped to become emotionally stable by a graceful royal princess and achieved so much to be heralded as one of the finest Emperors the subcontinent has seen. And about what he achieved politically and as a person with her solid emotional support. It was something like that initially. But eventually the show became like this. Heroine suffers heroine wins. Hero shouts. Hero apologises. Hamaari tele heroine ki jai ho.


Even AK and MA are still alive and there are talks of leap. Where is Birbal? Where are Jalal's other political conquests? Where is his Sati abolition and other social reforms? Where are his adventures in disguise into his kingdom with Jodha? Withso much story in stock why do we have atifas and mirchi wars?😭


May be because the CVs have shown what they had researched earlier about Akbar and now they are too lazy and complacent to research further.

They find it easier to sit in AC rooms of 5 star hotels and come up with tracks over beer. Who cares for history when Atifa track is so titillating and Khyber track is so macho?

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