Will Jalal Ever Stop Playing Around with Jodha's Love? Updated 20/8 - Page 11

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: nabiii

@abhay: superb post...i like ample the quotes u have written of famous philosopher romi abt women.
I m telling a very much true occurrance...
Once prophet(Musa(he had direct connection with Allah)) of Allah asked Him...when Allah becomes happy what does He do?
Allah answered that He gives rain to His slaves.
Then prophet again asked to Him that when He becomes happier than before,what does He do?
Allah said that He sends guest to His slaves home.
Again, prophet asked Him that when He becomes happiest, what does he do?
Allah answered that He sends baby gal at His slaves home as new born baby.
This way almighty Allah has kept women on highest position.
Sometimes i perplex to think that is this the real consequence of Jodha Akbar serial of Ekta's more than 2 years analysis on Akbar's biography where in every track its mandatory to show Akbar's beloved Jodha is getting insult, rebuking,shouting n most of the times for doing it cvs use Akbar as weapon where ever real Akbar had huge respect on women n never misbehaved with his begum. This time cvs crossed their limitation to introduce this horrible track where pregnant Jodha has to face every moment mental stress by his hubby!
Atlast ekta totally has made both JJ as like as her typical hero-heroine of her another shows.
Btw, welcome back n keep to continue making this type nice post in forum sometimes.


Hi Nabiii

In the present track esp, JA is not much different from any other serial. The characters are being treated as contemporary people with modern-day emotions and reactions. Just the settings and costumes and names are taken from history. The rest of the show has ceased to be NR. It is now pure, unadulterated N(atak) only.

Ever since, the serial started, Jodha was respected only for the brief period in which she came back to Agra and till the war ended.

Once Jalal and Jodha returned to Agra from the war front, the insults have started again.

Like you said, Akbar would never have treated any lady, least of all MUZ, whom he called his Wali Ni'mat, in this degrading manner. And from what I know of MUZ, she doesn't appear to be the kind of person who would take such humiliation without protest.

I do not understand the mentality of CVs of Hindi serials. Why does hate / ghrina rule over love / respect? Why so much obsession for the negative? What makes them think only negative emotions sell, only negative people attract audiences?

It is this kind of thinking that makes them glorify their negative characters and reduce the leads to secondary artists.

I also fail to understand why the CVs want to use their minds to spin "stories" when there is so much archival material available about the life and times of Akbar.? Why can't they just stick to showing history as it happened? Dramatisation is acceptable, but fictionalisation not, esp if such fictionalisation completely destroys the image of one of the greatest royal couples in our history.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

And, About why this treatment is RESERVED ONLY for ONE Queen is UNKNOWN to me.!!.


Simple Abhay
To make her the the winner in diversities. The show is that queen centric. But unfortunately it is Jalal's image that suffers most, not the queen's. He ends up looking dumb and she comes out in trumps.

Real Akbar would NEVER have treated MUZ that way.
Also
Real MUZ would never have been so insolent.
Real Ruqaiya would never have faked pregnancy.
Real Mughal army would never have been so incapable.
Real Akbar would never have been so dumb.


Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Is here nobody interested to see why Shariff did Delhi revolt?
Is here nobody interested to see why Shariff was asked to be trampled under elephant by his own wife?
Is here nobody interested to see why MUZ was given 12000 horse cavalry?
Is here nobody interested too see how MUZ became active in trade and became one of the richest ladies of those times?
Is here nobody interested to see how Maheshdas became Birbal ?
Is here nobody interested to see why Akbar took his pregnant wife on wars too?
Is here nobody interested to see how Sikri was built?
Is here nobody interested to see how navratnas came?
Is here nobody interested to see how Mirza Hakim turned grey later on?
I mean I don't know really Radhika ,why do the PH is wasting time on these baseless tracks ,when so much is to be showed.When these all tracks might take even a year too .Why that Salim Anarkali should come in Oct god knows.
People have signed here to see the love(relationship) story of a couple.If only love story was to be shown of hero heroine then YRF makes dozens of them.This show was made more to show the relationship between the duo and how it sustained and blossomed in a polygamous set up and also with so many problems .When it comes to show problems why to make fools of the leads.
Why to make fun of the history and historical figures.Doesn't PH know that we ,as the viewers of new technoage have info readily available with us .How can we buy the crap they show?
Radhika ,last time when I called zee ,that person insulted me asking whether I can read or write? If I can read ,then I should read the disclaimer about NR .See how they talk with the viewers?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Is here nobody interested to see why Shariff did Delhi revolt?

Is here nobody interested to see why Shariff was asked to be trampled under elephant by his own wife?
Is here nobody interested to see why MUZ was given 12000 horse cavalry?
Is here nobody interested too see how MUZ became active in trade and became one of the richest ladies of those times?
Is here nobody interested to see how Maheshdas became Birbal ?
Is here nobody interested to see why Akbar took his pregnant wife on wars too?
Is here nobody interested to see how Sikri was built?
Is here nobody interested to see how navratnas came?
Is here nobody interested to see how Mirza Hakim turned grey later on?
I mean I don't know really Radhika ,why do the PH is wasting time on these baseless tracks ,when so much is to be showed.When these all tracks might take even a year too .Why that Salim Anarkali should come in Oct god knows.
People have signed here to see the love(relationship) story of a couple.If only love story was to be shown of hero heroine then YRF makes dozens of them.This show was made more to show the relationship between the duo and how it sustained and blossomed in a polygamous set up and also with so many problems .When it comes to show problems why to make fools of the leads.
Why to make fun of the history and historical figures.Doesn't PH know that we ,as the viewers of new technoage have info readily available with us .How can we buy the crap they show?
Radhika ,last time when I called zee ,that person insulted me asking whether I can read or write? If I can read ,then I should read the disclaimer about NR .See how they talk with the viewers?


I am here with both my hands raised in response to your questions. I thought the show was about a strong smart rake helped to become emotionally stable by a graceful royal princess and achieved so much to be heralded as one of the finest Emperors the subcontinent has seen. And about what he achieved politically and as a person with her solid emotional support. It was something like that initially. But eventually the show became like this. Heroine suffers heroine wins. Hero shouts. Hero apologises. Hamaari tele heroine ki jai ho.


Even AK and MA are still alive and there are talks of leap. Where is Birbal? Where are Jalal's other political conquests? Where is his Sati abolition and other social reforms? Where are his adventures in disguise into his kingdom with Jodha? Withso much story in stock why do we have atifas and mirchi wars?😭
Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: AntaresVega


Awesome replies Radhika. Sandy a, I think referring to family members is going a bit too far. I mean, like, how would you feel if someone asked you something like that? Oh and I'm not moral policing, I'm just supporting my friend here.


Lyra,

Thanks for the support. 😊 Relax, Sandhya has clarified she only meant it as an illustration.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Radhika
Our royal (!) Couple had been out hunting many times and Jalal has shut out Ruqs out of the expeditions ( though I wonder what Jalal would have hunted with the nirdosh pashu pakshi champion with him😆). But we never knew. 😕

Similarly may be Jalal didnt neglect jo and he did visit her and we didn't know. 😛
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: nabiii


i m so glad that u have liked my view. I can't support this type immature,illogical plan(if there is) frm Jalal. Nonetheless my anger,frustration,irriation on Jalal wouldn't b happened atleast if he expressed he is also getting pain simultaneously to give hurt Jodha.


Nabiii

I am dying of curiosity to know what this super-secret plan is. I'm sure when it is unveiled we will all be dumbstruck by its brilliance (that will put even the gold dress that Ruq gave him to shame).

After all, the zee guy said this is the BEST track ever.

So never mind how hurt Jodha is, whether she commits suicide or goes insane, whether the awaam gossips about her (thank God, EK didn't introduce paparazzi somehow into the track), whatever.

What is of importance is that the TE is at work. He is working the most brilliant plan ever, like James Bond, the super-secret guy. And just like James Bond, Jalal gets to flirt with / get intimate with pretty girls, drink to his gills, and generally freak out. And when the climax happens, you would be so awestruck, you will say, "Jo who".


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Cleo12345


I agree with the line in bold...sums up everything. But why are they doing it? I have zero respect for people like EK who use and misuse history and mythology for their financial benefit but do admire her fine business acumen. But is she and BT business dept too busy to focus on the collections/potential collections from JA?...or is milking a serial as long as they can is somehow a better business strategy than gracefully ending a popular profit earning serial( like the makers of a popular mythological serial that managed to beat JA in trp race did) ?...I don't know...I don't understand all the financial nitty gritties of the tv soap world...After all there are people who deliberately declare bankruptcy for short term financial gains. Wish we had an expert on this forum who could explain the real reason behind this suicidal behavior to all of us.
However, not only did the serial commit suicide, they also managed to do a lot of damage to JA love story. I came across a recording of Ashutosh Gowarikar's movie while cleaning my DVR last week. I love the movie and decided to watch it one more time...i couldnt...the serial has left such a bad taste in my mouth that I couldn't enjoy watching the very graceful Akbar and Jodha in the movie...really hope that this effect is not irreversible. And pray that Ekta and her team are never allowed to make a serial on 'gone with the wind' or 'the sound of music' and ruin those masterpieces for everyone.
I am all for the leap...because I dont give a hoot about Salim-Anarkali story. They can show a Sunny Leone track and I dont care...At least their focus will shift from their favorite pastime of butchering Jodha and Akbar's character.


Patience, Cleo, is the name of the game. Wait and watch TE at work. 😊

I don't know if even Sunny Leone would want to work in this show now. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: mnr123

First of all I wud say that History Greek has given amazing explanations n suggestions here. 👏
I partly agree wid u n partly don't ya Jalal is at fault to yell at Jodha when she is pregnant as far as atifa track is concerned whether he is infatuated/acting/under a spell doesn't matter but when he is yelling at her that he doesn't love her.. Jodha is not standing up to her rights n demanding n explanation frm him rather she is contemplating suicide.
Khyber track was introduced by cvs not to redeem Jalaals character but to butcher it further n to butcher Jodhas character too 😆 Khyber twice kidnapped Jodha means Jalaal failed as a King n Jodha willingly ran with Khyber after she found out villagers were stoning him for stealing their food. I was ok till that point coz Jodha really didn't knew Khyber's insensitive ness towards other ppl except her.


Hi,

Agree with line in bold. The real HK / Jodha would have stood up for her rights. And even this reel Jodha used to earlier stand up for her rights and the rights of others, till the Ben track. Wonder why the CVs made her like this then? 😕

I really do not agree with this portrayal of Jodha where she would go off with a man just because she sympathizes with him. Nor would the Jodha I know be unaware of the problem Khyber can pose to others, even if he is kind to her.

Like you say, the track hasn't redeemed Jalal, but destroyed both JJ.


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