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Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

In fact Ela, Jalal needn't even have married Jo at all if all he wanted was having her in bed..her father was at Jalal's mercy...Kings those days were ruthless n often kidnapped the harem of the defeated kings, including wives, mother, sisters, daughters, etc...Jalal already had that reputation...but he chose to marry her, n her father readily "sold" her...

But then, despite facing all kinds of insane plotting, their love flourished...n blossomed...this is the love story which people remember even today after 400+ years...would you & I be interested in a "lust " story???...definitely not...

By saying this, we are only demeaning JJ love for each other, which it does not deserve...imho...

Originally posted by: adianasr

Ela, if all Jalal was interested was satiating lust, then he could have made Jodha submit to him with or without marriage using Amer as leverage and she could have done nothing about it except hate him, and curse her fate. One Jalal's eye was fixed in getting the Rajputs on his side preferably thru friendship and relation and if not by subjugation. Two Jalal wanted her to come to him of her own free will becoz that is the kind of man he is - even that girl in the marketplace in the earliest episodes - he lets her go after showing her man up becoz she did not want to be with him. So if Jalal had just wanted to satisfy his lust then he would have done so and Jodha would have not been able to do anything about it - even today there is no good safeguard against marital rape despite this being the 21st century and that is a fact.

Originally posted by: elasingh

But where is the free will of Jodha? Jodha went to him becoz she trusted him...believed him when he said she was his Radha...so gave herself to him whole heartedly...what about Jalal? what has Jo done is so bad that he said that he no longer loves Jodha...Just few days back he told Jodha that "she is the most pyaari begum in the world"...and suddenly he says that she is a wife who cant make her husband happy? What should we understand by this?

I have no problem with ppl who say that Jallu is faking...If he is then I am willing to understand his point of view to a large extent...

But I do have problems with ppl who feel Jalal is absolutely justified in going to Afifa and it is Jodha's fault...Is Jo's fault of bigger then Ruku who made Jalal look like an absolute idiot so many times ...not just in fake pregnancy issue but also during Ben track...

If Jalal cant be happy with Jodha then it is his destiny that he be lonely all his life and live a life of casanova...He will belong to NO ONE and no one will belong to him...

Originally posted by: adianasr

Ela, Jalal going to Atifa due to Jodha's attitude - possible since such situations do happen both with men and women - and its only justification is the momentary release and escapism that it would provide - and it can happen - but that does not make what Jalal has for Jodha as lust - unless he truly no longer feels anything for Jodha - which is not the case - In his equations with all the other wives and concubines in his harem - once he slept with them he no longer has any thoughts of them - for Ruqs his feelings are more of friends with fringe benefits but even here he has no connect with her beyond a feeling of camaraderie - with Jodha, whether she is with him or away, his thoughts, his feelings, his entire being and his soul has been connected to her - he has not even needed physical proximity to be connected to her - so it cannot be called lust.

remember even today there do come times when even we are attracted to others - though we may be committed to one - we may act upon it or we may not - but that was the 16th Century and when a man especially the King was attracted to a woman, then he did act upon it - its like an itch - once scratched it goes away - but that does not mean the man or the King cannot Love or his Love is only Lust - the problem is that we are looking at Love as a physical and verbal statement - when in actuality it is a silent language of the soul - and hence can never be explained.

In fact, I actually would have loved to see a scenario as mentioned by Shyamala and Mandy, but unfortunately EK does not have the sensitivity to carry it off - and it also cannot be done in 6 episodes the way this Atifa kissa is being shown - it requires a gradual build up - beginning with the attraction which builds up and finally escalates into a physical release and then fizzles out.

Yahan the biggest point which is against this scenario is the Zinakari accusation that would put Jalal's throne in jeopardy - which he knows - in such a situation if he was really attracted and wanted Atifa, he would have got her in an extremely subtle manner that would have ensured his throne's safety, his image remaining intact and his getting the girl.

Originally posted by: adianasr

Raksha, I would have loved to see a Jalal who does err on the side of physicality since I do think that such trangressions happen - but unfortunately that would end up giving us a penitent Jalal who would be crying buckets and buckets - which now I just refuse to watch - and that is the one reaon why I was on the watch for TE and when I saw the hint of his return just jumped for it - unfortunately EK does not have the psychological sensitivity to explore mature human relations which she has proved with her botched up handling of the Ruqs - Jalal - Jodha inter-relations

Originally posted by: adianasr

Firstly Ela, here Jalal is not attracted to Atifa, let me make that clear - Atifa is here not for Jalal but for Jodha and this was a connect that Jalal made when he caught her in the hamam at a time when Jodha was supposed to have been there - and this act by Jalal is to deflect Atifa's attention to himself - thus he has made her loose her own focus and hence react to his every move

Do not mix the Atifa case with the Jalal - Jodha interactions on the Khyber and Rajvanshi princess issues Ela - even if Atifa had not been there Jodha would have faced Jalal's anger and ire over both - but since Atifa does happen to be here and Jalal is deflecting Atifa by acting enamored of her, he is using his frustrated ire with Jodha to give credence to his supposed attraction for Atifa thats all.