How can Jalal be redeemed & Jodha happy? - Page 8

Originally posted by: smitra90

You might be right. Whoever is behind this, mahachuchak or rukaiya, i want this track to end as soon as possible with jalal acting to catch the culprit red - handed.

Originally posted by: sweety.hari

i dn't think RQ is having that much brain but ya she may take advantage of situation and create rift b/w jo-ja like she did yesterday by sending jo to ja to give prasad,nd she to felt bad for jalal behaviour towards atifa but happy to see jo hurting..😡i think there is something else😕

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Maddi, , Agree, i also think, Ruk plan is Here.

But Caughting Her, Two wishes, worring Me.

Originally posted by: nabiii

Maddy,another question if ruq has brought atifa then why has atifa said to Ja that ruq sent her to him! Won't she keep ruq in safe side as she is her agenda?

Thanks for making this post Maddy.

I really hope that they redeem Jalal . I always respected Akbar the great and found this screen Jalal absolutely irresistible. It was so much easier to understand and love this a flesh and blood human being with flaws who survived against all odds to become the great Emperor Akbar. Even the Jallad Jalal commanded respect because I could justify some of his actions by seeing him as a human being and not someone who was great from day one. I want to continue loving this character and am eager to see him redeemed. Also want it done for Jodha's sake, who deserves nothing less than a great man in her life.

Your theory makes a lot of sense. Ruk is beyond redemption. So they can pin it on her. A woman shown as a potential child killer is beyond redemption for non-sadist viewers. Please pardon me if I am inaccurate or repetitive...I am on a break from the show and rarely visit the forum these days. I try my best to follow the storyline but it is not the same as watching the show or reading different POVs on the forum.

I am most curious about the reason behind his behavior.

Is it a spell? Like black magic? I don't know enough about it ...so will refrain from commenting on it.

Is it an aphrodisiac? Hmm...that's interesting.

I would really like them to reveal the name of this compound for it to make sense. Ruk added it to Jalal's jaam...Aphrodisiacs are substances that increase sexual desire...there is an increase in libido...hyperarousability and increased( sometimes not) performance. There are some naturally occurring ones ... rhino horn, ghinseng and Spanish fly are the more famous ones. Most studies suggest a placebo effect...but Jalal doesn't know (right?)...then what is it that can make a man ingest it and get attracted towards a certain female...if Ruk gave him that drink, why didn't he do "it" with Ruk or even Jodha...CVs please tell me the name of this person specific aphrodisiac that makes him attracted to just Atifa( I'll use it on Brad Pitt next time he is in my city)...And, if Atifa is wearing something that attracts Jalal towards her, then again, it has to be person specific...it is clearly not working on her husband, Atgah or SD...I am assuming that Adham is out of town. We need to know the name of this discovery/invention by Ruk/ Atifa 😉

Besides that, CVs need to explain several other ugly aspects of Jalal's personality that were highlighted in this track.

He is shown to be a person who doesn't respect his religion...all the sins that he committed in the holy month need to be explained. How can viewers respect a man who doesn't respect his own faith? How can he make tall claims of respecting all religions when he doesn't respect his own religion? Beats me.

A very poor judge of character...and a poor judge..period...while Khyber is being punished for entering the harem, Nigar Aapa who brought soldiers to rape his harem ladies( including his beloved Jo and Ruk) is sitting in Agra Mahal enjoying the luxuries. He needs to pay that terrace Tarazu another visit.

An unfair husband...even if he is acting, his concern towards a pregnant Jo and a pregnant Ruk is very very different. If he suspects that Ruk is capable of hurting Jo, send her and Atifa on a pilgrimage...isnt that easier than torturing a pious pregnant woman who is about to give birth to his heir(s)? have Salima or someone else taste Jo's food. Didn't the Hakima sahiba with ultrasonic hands( the one who detected twin pregnancy in the first trimester) tell him that twin pregnancy is a "high risk pregnancy"? he could have played James Bond later(though we have all the elements...a seductress ...Ruks jaam, shaken not stirred; plethora of villains including the giant from 'the spy who loved me' and a lovely damsel in distress).

I really hope the CVs do justice to his character and explain all the whys" and "hows" in this skippable track.

Aphrodisiacs would not target a specific person like Atifa; so with or without aphrodisiacs, there has to be an element of spell / hypnotism somewhere somehow. Of course, with NR all common sense is out the window and anything is possible.

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

Thanks for making this post Maddy.

I really hope that they redeem Jalal . I always respected Akbar the great and found this screen Jalal absolutely irresistible. It was so much easier to understand and love this a flesh and blood human being with flaws who survived against all odds to become the great Emperor Akbar. Even the Jallad Jalal commanded respect because I could justify some of his actions by seeing him as a human being and not someone who was great from day one. I want to continue loving this character and am eager to see him redeemed. Also want it done for Jodha's sake, who deserves nothing less than a great man in her life.

Your theory makes a lot of sense. Ruk is beyond redemption. So they can pin it on her. A woman shown as a potential child killer is beyond redemption for non-sadist viewers. Please pardon me if I am inaccurate or repetitive...I am on a break from the show and rarely visit the forum these days. I try my best to follow the storyline but it is not the same as watching the show or reading different POVs on the forum.

I am most curious about the reason behind his behavior.

Is it a spell? Like black magic? I don't know enough about it ...so will refrain from commenting on it.

Is it an aphrodisiac? Hmm...that's interesting.

I would really like them to reveal the name of this compound for it to make sense. Ruk added it to Jalal's jaam...Aphrodisiacs are substances that increase sexual desire...there is an increase in libido, hyperarousability and increased( sometimes not) performance. There are some naturally occurring ones ... rhino horn, ghinseng and Spanish fly are the more famous ones. Most studies suggest a placbo effect...but Jalal doesn't know(right?)...then what is it that can make a man can drink it and get attracted towards a certain female...if Ruk gave him that drink, why didn't he do "it" with Ruk or even Jodha...CVs please tell me the name of this person specific aphrodisiac that makes him attracted to just Atifa( I'll use it on Brad Pitt next time he is in my city)...And, if Atifa is wearing something that attracts Jalal towards her, then again, it has to be person specific...it is clearly not working on her husband, Atgah or SD...I am assuming that Adham is out of town. We need to know the name of this discovery/invention by Ruk.😉

Besides that, CVs need to explain several other ugly aspects of Jalal's personality that were highlighted in this track.

He is shown to be a person who doesn't respect his religion...all the sins that he committed in the holy month need to be explained. How can viewers respect a man who doesn't respect his own faith? How can he make tall claims of respecting all religions when he doesn't respect his own religion? Beats me.

A very poor judge of character...and a poor judge..period...while Khyber is being punished for entering the harem, Nigar Aapa who brought soldiers to rape his harem ladies( including his beloved Jo and Ruk) is sitting in Agra Mahal enjoying the luxuries. He needs to pay that terrace Tarazu another visit.

An unfair husband...even if he is acting, his concern towards a pregnant Jo and a pregnant Ruk is very very different. If he suspects that Ruk is capable of hurting Jo, send her and Atifa on a pilgrimage...isnt that easier than torturing a pious pregnant woman who is about to give birth to his heir(s)? have Salima or someone else taste Jo's food. Didn't the Hakima sahiba with ultrasonic hands( the one who detected twin pregnancy in the first trimester) tell him that twin pregnancy is a "high risk pregnancy"? he could have played James Bond later(though we have all the elements...a seductress ...Ruks jaam, shaken not stirred, plethora of villains including the giant from 'the spy who loved me' and a lovely damsel in distress).

I really hope the CVs do justice to his character and explain all the whys" and "hows" in this skippable track.

Beautiful Post Maddy and cleo...

Maddy thk u for your beautiful post.. ur post made me think postitive...and to look at the other side of the coin..not sure if jalal is really acting or not..but for our satisfation lets convince ourself that he is acting and still loves jo..

I suspect two people here..one is Rukku and the other one is MC..

MC:ek teer se do nishan..kyb il kidnap jo..incase kyb fails atifa il finish jo... if atifa fails kyb il kidnap and soldiers il kill jo... one more thing atifa getting close to jalal as married women can dethrone him and also as an assassin can kill him

Rukku:to separate jolal..and to kill jo and her kids.. coz of MUZ title.. she can use atifa as a weapon to separate jolal and also to kill jo and her kids..

Here jalal got alert went hr was an attack on jodha for the first time all this is happening through some ones help..some one is trying to hurt him jo and his kids..who...then saw this papita and jolal first MU...next dek scene confirmed that she is from kabul..who cud be the one..and who is helping them from palace...so ghar ke chor ko pakad ne ke liye natak shuru kiya jalal..jodha ke dur hone ka.. aur fighting ka drama..

Sab ko dikana ki he is attracted to atifa and no more in love with her ...finally now papita's husband is going to take culprit help to dethrone jalal ... in that case automatically that culprit il come out and gets caught..who knows may be tm is following atifa husband secretly...if atifa is rukku's toy then rukku il do something to save jalal becoz right now jalal jhal phek diya machli pakane ko..ki go and complain about me to kazis..

Atifa ke husband complaint kare bhi to phasega na kare to bhi pasega..kardiya.to ab proof ke liye culprit ko help karna hi padega..so they il caught the culprit...if its sent by MC...

If they from rukku's side she il do something so that neither they il force jalal to dethrone and they il make that husband to divorce aitfa..so rukku too il get caught..

Cleo:

y jalal cant send rukku without propoer proof..nor he can punish her..being a king he need evidences..wat reason il he give to everyone.. they il think that jalal has become mad & blind in love that he suspects his childhood friend and wife...

coming to tasting the food though the food is tasted also we cannot be sure from whr and how they il try to harm jo and his kids.. take it khyb itself..no one thought MC soldiers ill attack during jashan night..see problem here is he is not sure who sent this kabul gand..if its maha chuchak thr is some one from mahal helping them..who are they...

inspite of strict security kyb escaped from jail and went to jo's hojra..again who is helping her..again how did sharif reached jo''s hojra exactly to find khyb...

jallu want to find who is helping his enemies so that every time they tries to attack him..these many days he was fine and not bothered coz all were trying to attack him..so he tolerated...but this time they kidnapped jodha..and tried to kill jo and his kids...so how cud jalal sit quiet...and increase secutiry and asks salima to chk her food..wat guarantee they il try to kill jo and his kids using ark.. they can use any method..and one more thing is neither salima nor moti nor jalal cant stay with jodha 24/7...so to find who is behind the culprit he used teda pan... he tried to get close to atifa..

agian 2 cases..
if atifa is sent by MC..then her husband takes kazi's help to dethrone jalal..and they need evidence..who il help them...either adham or sharif.. so logically both are thiefs..so they il get caught..

if its plotted by rukku then wen atifa's husband goes to kazi's then rukku il have to save jalal in some or the other way that atifa and her husband are not married in real..then rukku il get caught..coz she is the one behind this atifa track..rukku wanted to seperate jalal and jodha..not to dethrone him.. see if its rukku's plan then wen all evidences against jalal then she has to come out and save jalal that atifa is not married..then automatically she gets caught...

coz this kabul gang entered in palace before meeting jalal in dek..and that too atifa in jodha's hamam..so kuch to gad bad hai...some one is helping this kabul gang inside the palace..it they are from MC then who can help them...either it cud be nigar or maham or sharif... if they are from kabul but not sent by MC then who s behind them rukku???


more over atifa is shown to be a mughal..how cud she sing such hindu kanha songs ..sounds suspicious..

Originally posted by: Gem12

Beautiful Post Maddy and cleo...

Maddy thanks for your beautiful post.. ur post made me think postitive...and to look at the other side of the coin..not sure if jalal is really acting or not..but for our satisfation lets convince ourself that he is acting and still loves jo..

I suspect two people here..one is Rukku and the other one is MC..

MC:ek teer se do nishan..kyb il kidnap jo..incase kyb fails atifa il finish jo... if atifa fails kyb il kidnap and soldiers il kill jo... one more thing atifa getting close to jalal as married women can dethrone him and also as an assassin can kill him

Rukku:to separate jolal..and to kill jo and her kids.. coz of MUZ title.. she can use atifa as a weapon to separate jolal and also to kill jo and her kids..

Here jalal got alert went hr was an attack on jodha for the first time all this is happening through some ones help..some one is trying to hurt him jo and his kids..who...then saw this papita and jolal first MU...next dek scene confirmed that she is from kabul..who cud be the one..and who is helping them from palace...so ghar ke chor ko pakad ne ke liye natak shuru kiya jalal..jodha ke dur hone ka.. aur fighting ka drama..

Sab ko dikana ki he is attracted to atifa and no more in love with her ...finally now papita's husband is going to take culprit help to dethrone jalal ... in that case automatically that culprit il come out and gets caught..who knows may be tm is following atifa husband secretly...if atifa is rukku's toy then rukku il do something to save jalal becoz right now jalal jhal phek diya machli pakane ko..ki go and complain about me to kazis..

Atifa ke husband complaint kare bhi to phasega na kare to bhi pasega..kardiya.to ab proof ke liye culprit ko help karna hi padega..so they il caught the culprit...if its sent by MC...

If they from rukku's side she il do something so that neither they il force jalal to dethrone and they il make that husband to divorce aitfa..so rukku too il get caught..

Cleo:

y jalal cant send rukku without propoer proof..nor he can punish her..being a king he need evidences..wat reason il he give to everyone.. they il think that jalal has become mad & blind in love that he suspects his childhood friend and wife...

I agree that he cant punish anyone without proper proof...I remember his boring and repetitive dialogue

"mughal Sultanate mein ...sau gunhaagaar...ek begunhah"...but isnt Jodha begunah? why didnt he do the same level of investigation with other begunahs like TM. But Begum-e-khaas is presumed begunah inspite of her hundred and one obvious crimes...he has punished people for lesser crimes...And why is a gunahgaar like Nigar given a clean chit just because she is a blood relative? Also...he acknowledged that the first and third trimester is important for mother's n child's health...are the twins gunahgaar? If their mother suffers...they suffer.

coming to tasting the food though the food is tasted also we cannot be sure from whr and how they il try to harm jo and his kids.. take it khyb itself..no one thought MC soldiers ill attack during jashan night..see problem here is he is not sure who sent this kabul gand..if its maha chuchak thr is some one from mahal helping them..who are they...

food tasting is not the point here...Jo's security( or lack of it) is the point...why hasnt she been shifted to another hojra? There was an "attack" on begum-e-khas and everyone was happy with another khaas begum tasting her food...Jo was actually kidnapped by a MC pawn and no Khaas food taster for her? sorry but he cant get off the hook just because he is "acting' or under a 'spell"...he can function well at all levels but should be excused for being a emotionally and verbally abusive husband to a pregnant wife because he is busy playing James Bond or is under a "spell" ...they better explain it to the viewers after this track is over.

inspite of strict security kyb escaped from jail and went to jo's hojra..again who is helping her..again how did sharif reached jo''s hojra exactly to find khyb...

jallu want to find who is helping his enemies so that every time they tries to attack him..these many days he was fine and not bothered coz all were trying to attack him..so he tolerated...but this time they kidnapped jodha..and tried to kill jo and his kids...so how cud jalal sit quiet...and increase secutiry and asks salima to chk her food..wat guarantee they il try to kill jo and his kids using ark.. they can use any method..and one more thing is neither salima nor moti nor jalal cant stay with jodha 24/7...so to find who is behind the culprit he used teda pan... he tried to get close to atifa..

why cant someone stay with Jo 24/7/... For God sake,he is shehensha-e-hind. the richest and the most powerful person on planet earth...why is torturing Jodha the only way to crack the mystery? I dont have a problem if he wants to play a spy...but even James Bond does not deliberately put his wife and kids on line to save the world. I am sure that they will give a flimsy excuse to "redeem" him...but is that good enough? They go OTT while butchering a character...but dont care to use the few grey cells they have when they try to redeem that character.

agian 2 cases..
if atifa is sent by MC..then her husband takes kazi's help to dethrone jalal..and they need evidence..who il help them...either adham or sharif.. so logically both are thiefs..so they il get caught..

again,why torture Jo for that? His puppy eyes are not good enough for me(and Jo)

he can put SD in jail the moment BB delivers.He is the shehensha...remember.

for Adham, pursue the darn embezzlement case. Throw MA out of Agra. He knows who the enemies are...why does he need to commit a sin to trap the likes of SD and Adham?

if its plotted by rukku then wen atifa's husband goes to kazi's then rukku il have to save jalal in some or the other way that atifa and her husband are not married in real..then rukku il get caught..coz she is the one behind this atifa track..rukku wanted to seperate jalal and jodha..not to dethrone him.. see if its rukku's plan then wen all evidences against jalal then she has to come out and save jalal that atifa is not married..then automatically she gets caught...

Again...why so much trauma and drama?...just to prove that Ruk is wrong😕...doesnt he know that? if he doesnt, then he deserves what he is getting...he has enough reasons and resources to build her another Mahal in the jungle...make it look like he is not punishing her, yet keep her away so she doesnt create trouble for a pregnant MUZ...what is wrong in sending her on a pilgrimage( make it look like she volunteered to pray for the Mughal heir)?

coz this kabul gang entered in palace before meeting jalal in dek..and that too atifa in jodha's hamam..so kuch to gad bad hai...some one is helping this kabul gang inside the palace..it they are from MC then who can help them...either it cud be nigar or maham or sharif... if they are from maham kabul but not sent by MC then who are behind them rukku???

ok...if he has no control over Agra security...send Jo to Amer. Enemies dont target Jo because she is jalal's beloved queen...but because she is MUZ. He can insult her all he wants, she will still remain a target. He needs to get that.


more over atifa is shown to be a mughal..how cud she sing such hindu kanha songs ..sounds suspicious..

Now lets leave this who is behind atifa..


we all are thinking jalal is acting etc etc...

but yesterday girls spoiler pics whr all ladies were thr jo in green dress and atifa in new dress..
but monday kidnapping track starts... jo is in yellow dress..so jo il be brought back and saved and jo il leave to amer thats wat we heard ...in bet atifa il get caught and truth il be out..to ye new dress and jo green out fit scene kaha se aya.. it means even after kidnapping track atifa il be thr?? logically her track is for 10 days..now its more than 10 days.. so even after kidnapping track can we assume jalal il go ahead and marry atifa?? highly confusing..