How can Jalal be redeemed & Jodha happy?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think this is the most annoying and intriguing track of JA! Jalal and Atifa scenes are a torture to watch 😡

What Jalal is making Jodha go through is extremely disgusting and pathetic. It seems he does not care about Jodha's health and his babies also. I do not want to see this Jalal. I want to see Jalal redeemed, I want to see that his love for Jodha was not an act.


I keep thinking HOW the CVs will redeem Jalal character? Based on what we have seen of Jalal over past one year, it is sure he has no control on his emotions where Jodha is concerned. He goes over the top always and there is no middle ground. Still Jalal took time to realise (Raks 😉) his love for Jodha.
How can then Jalal fall in love with Atifa in such a short time? Never!
If he was shown just taken a fancy to her and wanting her, can be but fallen in love with Atifa?! WHY????!!!!!

There was no hint of a crack also in his relationship with Jodha when Atifa came along, if at all Jalal and Jodha were blissfully happy about their babies soon to come into this world.


So HOW can this track make sense - why would Jalal pretend fallen for Atifa? Who does this behavior of Jalal BENEFIT the most?


I think MahaC might NOT be behind this plan. If she is and her plot is to trap Jalal in accusing him of sin and de-throne him from takht then WHY would Jalal fall so easily for this? Especially when Adga Khan warned him of such a possibility?

Also even if Jalal said he is moving away from Jodha - why should MahaC care for that? Jodha will still be as much pregnant!
Also if MahaC has sent Atifa after Jalal and Jodha - WHY would she also send Khyber after Jodha? Like his handler did by sending him in haram?

Will Jalal go to such extreme lengths to show fallen for Atifa just to foil a plan where he will be accused of sin? Especially when Jodha is pregnant with twins? Won't Jalal just send Atifa away?


So here is MY take on what could be the track.

Jalal saw Ruk talking with Atifa from far and heard Jodha's name mentioned. Jalal did not hear anything else but saw Atifa face clearly.

Jalal wondered if Ruk is plotting something, esp after her faking the pregnancy. Jalal knows Ruk's jealousy for Jodha and her obsession for audha. Jalal therefore went to Ruk and gave her a subtle warning not to do something that will take her away from him. He also reminded that she was also going to be Ammijaan of Jodha and his baby. He might have felt happy Ruk participated in the Jashna. Maybe thought his warning had worked.

Later Jalal was shocked to see Atifa in Jodha's hamam. When Jodha walked in first he was worried about her reaction and also shaken that even after increased Haram security how can ANY woman just walk in Jodha's hamam? He got worried about Jodha's safety.

Jalal realized if Ruk is plotting something then he has to be extra careful.
Ruk has as much resources as him and control of the haram and her informants are everywhere in palace.
Also WHY was Atifa sent so close to him? Why was the scene staged for Jodha to walk in on him and Atifa? What might Ruk be plotting?

Jalal painted Atifa picture from his seeing her for the first time with Ruk. He was wondering and feeling tense about what could be Atifa-Ruk plot? Just then Ruk walked in startling him. Jalal also realized that he was actually feeling a strange attraction for Atifa.

Ruk Jalal dialogue where he told her she knows him from childhood there is no hiding anything from her - he realized that if it is some plot of Ruk then he has to be very careful to learn of the plot and about his reactions in front of Ruk. Cos she knows him really well.

When Jalal was introduced to Kabul group and Atifa in DEK, he genuinely felt sudden attraction towards her, he could not keep his eyes off her. Jalal told Adga Khan not to investigate them because he wanted to find out about Atifa personally.

After feeling the strange attraction for Atifa and her singing with Tansen, where again he could not stop touching her - Jalal started questioning his own strange attraction for Atifa. When he was given something to drink by Ruk that was not his normal jaam, Jalal started to get first hint of what Ruk might be trying to do. Atifa husband hit her news was given to him when he was with Ruk.

Maybe Jalal then started getting the plot. Ruk wanted to get Jodha away from him. Atifa was the bait he was supposed to take. Jalal might have thought about why Atifa would do this if she is married? Also would Ruk plot this if his takht might be at risk? So Jalal might have felt that Atifa would not be married. Also Ruk knows Jalal's soft heart about woman abused and a forbidden fruit might be more attractive. If Ruk had introduced Atifa in haram as some random girl then Jalal might not have shown any interest. So maybe Ruk is giving him something in his drink.

Why Jalal might be playing along instead of sending Atifa away? Cos he has no proof about the plot, he does not know to what extent Ruk might go. Jalal also might feel if he just sends Atifa away then Ruk might plot something worse. So Jalal maybe wanting to catch Ruk Atifa red-handed NOW.

Before coming to this realization Jalal might have been feeling attracted to Atifa and wondering at his own reaction, so the self talk. After realizing that he was given something to drink - Jalal might have stopped drinking the stuff. However, he kept pretending that he is feeling more and more attraction for Atifa.

So after Jalal stopped drinking the stuff that is the point he stopped the plot and took control.

Jalal might not be knowing exactly what Ruk has planned. It is possible he thinks that Ruk wants to separate him from Jodha, and if Ruk feels her plot is not succeeding she might do something worse and go after Jodha. So Jalal is pretending to go along so Ruk feels happy she is succeeding driving Jodha away from him. Jalal also does not exactly know how the man who might be pretending to be Atifa's husband fits into this? What is going to be his part in this?

Jalal still does not know exactly is the end game? He is therefore not worried about Atifa husband going to clergy if this is Ruk's plot. He feels confident that he can easily pay off Atifa's husband and quieten this matter.

Why is Jalal doing this to Jodha? Cos Jalal might be worried about her safety and knows that he simply cannot be with her 24 hours, and also if Ruk is plotting something against pregnant Jodha, then Ruk can go to any extent. He does not yet know how far Ruk can go, he also does not trust Ruk now.

If he just accused Ruk she will deny and he has no proof. Also Ruk is the ONE person who knows Jalal and Jodha relationship closely. If he told Jodha that he is pretending about Atifa, Jodha will question and might want to talk directly with Ruk - assure her again. Jalal knows Jodha's graciousness and kindness is NOT working on Ruk. He KNOWS Ruk.

So for now Jalal is playing along, his reaction to Atifa saying Ruk sent her was interesting. So maybe he realized that Ruk feels she is successful now in getting him to fall for Atifa, that is why he upped the ante by love talk and letting her husband catch her.

Maybe Jalal is waiting for the end game from Atifa Ruk, wanting to see after he has completely taken the bait what is the next plan?

If Ruk is feeling she is getting him away from Jodha, then will Ruk stop plotting against Jodha? This is something he needs to find out by their next move. He wants to catch them red-handed fast.

How can he be so callous and uncaring with Jodha? Not visit her or ask about her health and babies? Maybe they will show Jalal is worried that Ruk might go to any lengths to separate Jodha from him. Therefore he wants Ruk to feel she has succeeded to get proof against her. Ruk is one person who will KNOW if Jodha really believes Jalal has fallen for Atifa or not. Cos Jodha is an open book. So this could be the reason he has not told Jodha.

If Jalal is ready to go to this extreme length in hurting Jodha, then Jalal really must be feeling that Ruk is capable of going to any lengths against Jodha. He must be feeling Jodha and babies life is at risk.

Maybe the kidnap plot will throw a spanner in this plot and he will go to search for Jodha. Will that make Ruk realize that Jalal still loves Jodha and will that make Ruk and Atifa do something worse? Where Jalal will catch them red-handed.

Jalal is not realizing Jodha is strong physically and mentally but how devastated she will get if she feels he has fallen for Atifa, how his words will hurt her. Unfortunately Jalal has taken Jodha for granted in this, and he has always pampered Ruk. If this is actually Ruk's plot then I want to see her caught red-handed and harshly punished.

The question is will CVs redeem Jalal? Jalal actually fallen for Atifa or caught looking foolish in some plot will make him more weak. If Jalal does this cos Ruk is the plotter then his behavior and not telling Jodha might make tiny little sense!

I do not want to see Jodha so hurt. It is painful to watch the horrible treatment they are showing towards a pregnant woman. Jodha heart broken and believing Jalal lied to her is something I will detest to watch.

What I so much want to see is Jalal somehow come out of this not as lusting after a married woman but still madly in love with Jodha.

So this theory is my wishful thinking about this track. Right now I want to see Jodha happy in her pregnancy, cared for and pampered by Jalal. So hope this crappy track gets over soon, Ruk is caught red-handed and punished - of course she will use her wish to go scot free!

Anything to see Jodha happy, IF only if Ruk is caught red handed and Jodha believes Jalal did this for her and babies can I see some salving of the love story. Jalal doing this for MahaC somehow does not make sense!

I watch JA only for Jodha now, cos Atifa's Jalal or Ruk's Jalal is of no interest to me.
Jodha's happiness is what I want to see. For HER SAKE Jalal has to be redeemed.

PS : this track idea is of Thethinker - I am just taking her idea further and wishing this is shown ahead.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Maddy
If this is true, then Jalal would NEVER have trusted or cared for Ruks again EVER in his life, which was not true in reality. So Ruks can be an accomplice, not the main plotter. But well, CVs have not cared for history. If they can make Akbar get beaten in the hands of Abul Mali and Jodha win a war, they could make Ruqaiyya a devilish villain in chief too.
Your theory is quite possible. It might explain why Jalal has not told the truth with Jodha and hurting her too as he knows Ruqs has spies everywhere. He feels attracted to atifa due to the drink Ruqs gives him and that is why he wonders in self talks. Later he overcomes and plays along. Hence the smirk that 'Ruqaiya sent you to me?'. Also that is why they haven't shown us atifa-ruqaiya convo as they showed ruqs-ben convo. That is also why Jalal goes to Ruqaiya and complains to her about Jo so that she may think that her plan is succeeding. Ofcourse Ruqs will use her wish that Jalal will not let her name to anyone and not expose her at all.
Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Maddy after all these that b____ wil use her wish for forgiveness... I think she has two wishes... Cvs somehow wil redeem him at end of track by showing any twist... But jerk jalal wil never b same for me lik before... Knowingly (if acting) or unknowingly (drink or spell) he had hurt Jo so much... He deserves only hatred...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely Maddy😛...
I have been going thru this track numerous times in my head now...Sometimes I try to think logically about all the sequences and fail ...then I start thinking about why Ekta - a smart business woman would ruin a show that has been termed as an EPIC love story and when Akdha have become so so popular as Jodha and Akbar...She will definitely NOT...So where is the catch😊
The one thing that all of us have noticed is that Jalal changed 360 degrees towards Jodha after the hamam scene...Also we all have questioned how Atifa can enter Jodha's hamam (especially after security was upped for her as told by Jallu the previous day)...Maybe Jalal took the cue from here that there is someone within the palace who is helping ---- I THINK THIS THE PURPOSE OF THIS TRACK...FINDING THE CULPRIT LURKING INSIDE THE PALACE FOR THE SAFETY OF JODHA AND BABIES...
We are also unanimous in the fact that Jalal is giving confusing expressions (ESPECIALLY WHEN JAJO SCENES ARE THERE) and mouthing all the lovey-dovey dialogues to Atifa that he has mouthed to Jodha once...SO SOON, SO FAST...We also need to remember that Akdha love story has so far been more of a soul connected, emotional love story where both Jalal and Jodha have gone out of their normal way to display their love for each other...I THINK THIS TIME IT IS JALLU...
The sequence of events that you have mentioned is very very possible Maddy...Self-talk in hojra and touching Atifa when she was beaten by her husband (which Atga noticed) has something to do with RUKU's drink...But the other lovey-dovey scenes with Atifa are his own plans to fool all...If we think carefully, jalal didn't tell Jodha about the hunting trip with Atifa...Maybe wanted to avoid the emotional stress for her...His not looking into her eyes can also be the fact that he has to withhold the information from his beloved, which is difficult for him and he is feeling guilty for that...But I don't think it is Ruku alone...MC...I am still not sure about Nigar (remember she once served Jodha)😕
IN THE END I AM SURE, JALAL WILL BE REDEEMED, HIS ACTIONS WILL BE JUSTIFIED AND WE ALL WILL BE HAPPY...WE MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF FLASHBACKS AND CONFESSIONS IN THE END...BUT DURING THIS TRACK AND PERIOD, A PREGNANT JODHA IN PARTICULAR WAS PUT TO EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL STRESS WHICH CANNOT BE NEGATED AND JALAL (MATLAB CVS) TOOK A BIG RISK WITH THAT...I AM DAMN SURE CVS WILL ALSO SHOW SOME FALTU REASON WHY JALAL DIDNT REVEAL THIS PLAN TO JODHA SO THAT WE ALL WILL BE SHANT...STILL...COULDNT THEY THINK OF SOMETHING BETTER🥱...ATILAL IS TORTURE..🥱...JODHA GETTING HURT CONSTANTLY IS ALSO NOT A GOOD IDEA🥱...PLUS A LOT OF LOGICAL QUESTIONS HAI MERE PAAS...WHICH NEVER GET ANSWERED IN ANY TRACK🥱...
Edited by Pals2411 - 11 years ago
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Maddy pallu if ruk mixed smethng in drink then she wud b trying to give him daily that drink to show it's effect n succeed in her plan... So is possible for jalal acting lik this?? Y only once she gave n stopped aftr that??
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I post what I just posted on Ela's thread...
I think the mastermind is MA...she took Kabul name to put blame on MC...Ruqu joined her when MA went to her, like Sujamal time...I say this bec
WHAT WAS MA DOING OUT SIDE ATIFA'S HOJRA? ????? ...she must have come to plot further...she had promised to dethrone Jalal...remember?

NOW, when Jalal ke dethroning ki baat uthegi, Ruqu will speak up n MA ko saath le doobegi...she cannot Allow Jalal to be dethroned...



Edited by ---Khushi--- - 11 years ago
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Good theory maddy.
But i do not think ruk is involve in this atifa plan. She may take the advantage of this situation because she will never want jalal will be in any danger and still atifa is show as a married woman and she is well aware of mugual rule and shariyat rule( i do not know much about them) that to make a relation with married lady is sin and against rule. She will never want that there is any danger in jalal throne. Thats what i think she is not involve in this.
And if jalal is acting than i am not convince with his acting because its giving a lots of pain and hurt to jodha which he will never want whatever the reason of his acting and also he will not want to give any mental depression to jodha which cause jodha bad health and effect his unborn children.
There is only two situation left . Jalal is under any spell and there is no any control in his mind and heart or he really attracted towards atifa which i donot want.

whatever the reason of this track it is very disgusting and yuck. I cannot see jodha in pain and hurt. These time she deserve only happiness not sorrow. Till now cvs only show jodha in painful condition. I hope they end this track soon and jodha get happiness which she deserve.
Edited by ---jais--- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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👏 Awesome Maddy. I like your whole idea and there is very high possibility. I like both JJ but love Jodha the most. But do respect Jalal and I dont want loose it. Atleast for Jodha's sake Jalal should be redeem. Just wish they will stop showing Jatifa scenes even if it is acting, I just can't tolerate it anymore🤢. I hope this track ends fast coz I can't see my Jodha in pain. Why is it needed to show her facing dead so many time. One more thing maddy Atifa got new dress in yesterday's off screen pic.
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Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Maddy pallu if ruk mixed smethng in drink then she wud b trying to give him daily that drink to show it's effect n succeed in her plan... So is possible for jalal acting lik this?? Y only once she gave n stopped aftr that??

I CAN ONLY THINK OF ONE LOGICAL ANSWER BHAVANA...STARTING SHE GAVE THE DRINK ...BUT WHEN SHE SAW JALAL WAS ALREADY BEING ATTRACTED (I MEAN JALLU WILL KNOW ABOUT THIS DRINK AND ACTING HERE😡)...THEN WHY IS THE NEED TO OFFER HIM THE DRINK REGULARLY WHEN HE IS GOING LIKE A PUPPY AROUND HER🥱...SO NO MORE DRINKS FROM RUKU TO JALLU🥱
AFTER HAVING SAID THAT...WHY WAS RUKU NOT VERY HAPPY (IN FACT SAD) THAT JALLU WAS ATTRACTED TOWARDS ATIFA YESTERDAY😕...I MEAN IF THAT IS WHAT SHE WANTED, THEN WHY DID SHE SAY YESTERDAY THAT I AM UNHAPPY THAT YOU ARE ATTRACTED TO ATIFA😕...IS RUKU INVOLVED😕...EEKS😡
SOCHNA BAND KAR🥱...IT IS CONFUSING...BUT I AM STILL DOING THAT🥱
Edited by Pals2411 - 11 years ago
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Maddy i appreciate ur prediction n ur energy to think abt Ja's ghatiya activities again n again.
If at the end Ja is shown he was pretending nevertheless he won't come out frm his guilt to make Jo helpless,give her agony, mental stress for his so called pathetic investigation...there wl b questioned,did he ever think for a while for giving mental stress to Jo what if Jo harmed herself being emotional as medical science says pregnancy makes a lady more emotionally feeble than others time. How wl Ja redeem himself for his so called ghatiya plan he ignored Jo hence with Jo again the abduction situation has been happened!
Anyways, i don't care why,how, for which reason ja is shown jerk. I just want to see Jodha's faith on Ja n her unconditional love for Ja won't b deceived her. Then poor Jo won't enable to keep faith on Ja in her life ever whom she considers as pillar of her life. However, ja could have given little hint to Jo abt his worse plan(if ja has genuienly any plan) keeping hidden ruq's name to her then atleast jo didn't face so many painful behavior frm Ja. For making Jo's life hardship at the time of her pregnancy, Ja won't escape frm his guilt despite he has planned to catch culprit(if ja has investigated solely)!
If Ruq is behind this nasty chaotic situation then not only she wl b accused for crimal of Jo but also she wl b accused to b gaddar of mughal saltanath for pushing emperor toward to a married woman. So ruq ki toh tain tain fish!
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