is it escapism? - Page 7

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Beautiful post mandy

I hope both jo and jalal learn their lessons at the end of the track. That would be a mature way to wind up the track. The scenario that scares me is jo mahaan and jallu buddhu and jallu crying.

Originally posted by: chitterati

Bang on... I was pretty sure that Jalal was really into Atifa(till posts of Jalal aficionados like khushi, Adia forced me to consider otherwise)

if Jalal is not faking his affections, then this started even before the khyber tiff with Jo surfaced. And perhaps the reason for this is Jalal's need to feel like a "man" in his equation with Jo. Men have egos but big men have bigger egos, and nothing could be more satisfying to male ego than rescuing a damsel in distress, that is the most absolute reaffirmation of his masculinity. With Jo always being the protector, being his equal and being independent - Jalal the husband is feeling insecure. He even said this to Jo,that I am sorry I could not protect you or my kids. For an emperor, that's an inherent insult right there. In Atifa he sees someone, who needs his protection,who needs his care versus jodha who loves him dearly but is apparently pretty self sufficient.

Jalal has always felt the need for jodha, but Atifa appeals to his need of being needed.

Mandy - fantastic post, and yes he seeks out Atifa as an escape from pressures of being with jodha. And yes, Jo's timing, if not her intent in revoking khyber's death sentence. She was wrong both as a queen and as a wife - as a queen once king had given his verdict, she should not have asked him to take it back, as a wife - your difference of opinion with your husband should not be apparent to a third person, let alone his awaam.

But having said that, escapism is an immature way to handle stress, this way you just end up exchanging one set of problems with another set of issues.

Originally posted by: chembi

Mandy well written post and observe all jalal's dialogues towards jodha from jail to hojra and his self talk and he spoke the dialogue about the respect given by other men to their wife blah blah only after witnessing atifa's hus behaviour towards her.It influenced somewhere to him mandy.Adding to that jo's behaviour also irks him mandy.We get some picture na😉

Originally posted by: peepu

Bang on chitteratti and mishtidoi

Excellent post mandy

Actually we should see where jalal is coming from

His authority as a king has been challenged..he was captured because he thought by the heart to think for his sister.

He fell down as an emperoro and his women won him the battle.

So he has started to assert himself he cant alwayas sugarcoat and pardon prisoners.

This step of jodha is as silly as the party for a khwaja sera.

Btw jalal never said to her that I will be a one woman man now.But I think after the track he will realise what jodha means to him.

She cant be substitued by any woman who has the looks and who can sing good.

Jodha might be silly at times, might be irritatinglu mahaan at times but he will realise she rules his heart.

Reality check will also come for jodha

She as you said was taking all for granted

Now she will learn that she has a big man as husband and she has to be alert.

She needed the much needed check that every woman is behind her husband and the jealous and possessive streak comes back in her.

Last time we saw him lecturing meena bazar should be for all your begums

And she also willingly shared rukku beside jalal

So jalal got the impression jodha is satisfied with power of MUZ and has no room left to respect him.

Hameeda also got the same inkling though its wrong

Jodha only desires love she is not after any post or status.

So in pregnancy women behave ina weird way likewise jalal also is acting as a man with a bruised ego...and .this is not escapism mandy

A temporary retreat by both the lovers

One is in adrenaline rush and other is under pregnancy sway.

Jodha feels insecure as she is pregnant and jalal is now away from her and he has many other begums

Jalal on the other hand is insecure as his woman is taking his rulings for granted

So both became meherbaan on garbage..

Khyber though deserves mercy not unwanted attention likewise atifa also deserves mercy not unwanted attention.

This mutual insecurity has led them to the tiff

My only grumble is jodha being unattended in pregnancy..

Not only by jalal but by all.

I would have loved teda jalal pampering her I indirectly saying in doing this for my kids.but no cvs got the cliched route

Lets see na jaane ja ke pahuchega kahan par karwan apna.

Originally posted by: sweetystubborn

Mandy , I couldn't resist myself from penning down this useless remark but I had to 😆 In few days , all Jalal-Atifa scenes that we got , weren't they far way more enticizing and passionate then Akdha's numerous repetitive ones ? There are some sort of provocation for desire , difficulty in resisting but can't extinguished that attraction and desire that are bringing them close to each other so much to get the gut to break all limits, prejudices and rules they have between , and that's the provocation and resisting to the strong desire that making their scenes really worth watching and interesting ! You were complaining that Atifa's puffed cheeks but don't you find her glowing and gorgeous today during the sweat weeping scene without any imperfections to notice in her and her make-up did it perfectly , this particular scene was a very passionate one with Rajat's sensual faces not to mention , I rewatch this scene again and again and both Rajat and actress playing Atifa were PERFECT ! I loved also when Atifa while weeping his sweats on face was timidly shying and looking at his handsome face ☺️ They were so close , face to face and Jalal's corner smiles and faces were to die for ☺️

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

You know, I have to write this...don't know how I'll be perceived, but I was laughing my heads off, when yesterday Jodha shrieked and became fanatic that how can Jalal love other...I mean come on lady, I surely don't agree you're an ostrich to reality...I mean, OK it hurts...and a lot, but surely that doesn't prove Jalal doesn't love you...and all he said was false.

Originally posted by: mandyg

that scene made no sense..dear lady this is polygamy and his love has to be spread..jodha zara agli baar kahna se polygamy ki definition pooch lena😆

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

When she said to SB, "humein pata hai unke bahut saari begumein hain, aur unhe sabse prem karna chahiye, parantu unhone kaha toh woh sada sabse ADHIK humse prem karengein"

...I was flabbergasted, this can't be "mhaari Jodha"...surely pregnancy hormones are playing havoc on her senses😆