is it escapism? - Page 9

Originally posted by: abhi786

Mandgy good post... I agree JOdha asking for kyber release infornt of all & that too after he announced the death sentence... His ego is hurt and his anger & pain is justified and also the scolding to JOdha..

But what couldn't understand those harsh words " You doesn't deserve my love or tommorow I love atifa & will marry her "... Did JO really deserves this harsh words, especially the women 10 days before praised as PYAARI BEGUM ..

I don't know Jalaal is faking it or spell or even attraction... JO behaviour towardas kyber gave jalaal pain & hurt which lead him go more attracted & drawn toward atifia ..

But in this track I am understanding Ruku more..

Ruqu felt the pain, hurt, ignorance seeing Jalaal love towards JO, just like Jalaal now feeling pain ... What Jalaal doing is get close towards atifa, but Ruqu can't go to another man right... So she Fake her pregnancy & bring back Jalaal towards her.. After all she also felt the pain, anger on Jalaal & especially hate on JO ..

Why that time I felt bad for Jalaal, seeing Ruku broke the trust & bond between them, even though she didn't deliberately do it ..Now Jalaal is repeating & giving the pain to JO , even though he is also not doing it deliberately..

Jalaal got dhakka from JO he gave it back his pain & anger he throw BEN on Jodha, again he is hurt on JO due to kyber, now he is throwing atifa on JO.. Same circumstances but here jalaal forget JO is pregnant with HIS Child..

In Ruku FP track JO is there for timandari 24/7 & Jalaal showered love, attention, extra care & asking her health and all...HB also brought special hakems for Ruku in her pregnancy ...

In JO pregnancy after atifa enter Jallu not for once asked JO about the babies & her health, instead shouted, showered his anger pain words " YOU doesn't deserve MY love " ? HB didn't even come to see how JO is doing, neither any care by none for the so called HEIR of Sultantante..

That time Jallu clearly told to JO that the mother of his child is more important to him ..He would always make her happy, he even said he loves her to Ruku before JO...JJ never leave ruqu alone infact when JJ went to mandir they keep Salima to take care of Ruku...

But now leave beloved or Khass Begum,being a mother of his child he left JO & went to shikar with atifa .. Didin't even told salima /ruwu or HB to take care of JO till he comes back ?

Now can't the same Jalaal can't tell JO he loves her ? Can't he say leave atifa our relationship will be the same ?

If Jalaal can't comfort, shower love to JO now atleast can't give her the mental pain & hurt her by hurtful words which will break her especially now in her pregnancy...

After atifa entry I neither see any love, care, comfort, shower happiness for Jo from HB, who says her a daughter nor jalaal who is the the father, beloved & pati who are so eagerly waiting for the HEIR..

If Jo is not pregnant the track JAFA story would have been good...

It's really feeling bad & sad to see JO go through all this alone where she needs Jalaal support & love more.. It's really contrast to Ruku FP track where everyone took extra care & showed love and concern while here NONE there for JO...

Originally posted by: sweetystubborn

I hope the opening of this track is really meant for something covered up with all witnessed twists , curiosity and confusions , may the end be grandious on a positive basis to carry all expectations and hopes at their own awaited levels , I really hope that Jalal will be shown as a PLANNER sorting out smartly this labyrinth , the one who has orchestrated all this magnanime plan under an astounishing scenario that most fail to decode , not again as a fool pouring tanks of tears to apologize as always but for a change , with a drastic whirlwind that will permit him to lift his head high with pride as a King , as an Emperor of Mughal Sultanat and sorting out that tough phase so magnanimously as an Ultimate Saviour ! I want TE back and if this track comes to end again on a usual amere and tasteless note unknowingly meant to triumph again naari shaktis then I QUIT !

Originally posted by: mdeshpande

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Brilliant!! Thoroughly enjoyed reading your post. The various thoughts and points are well worded and well put !!

As for the debate of who is right and who is wrong, am not going to take anyone's side. As everyone knows, there are always two sides to a coin.

In yesterday's epi, everyone's pain was so palpable..Jo's, Jalal's, even Ruk's. Yes, i felt that she too, was remembering the first time Jalal got attracted to another woman, that feeling of hurt, helplessness and incompleteness!!

Originally posted by: sp108

I loved your post Mandy...As of now I have a feeling that Jalal is aware of Atifa's intentions and playing a cat and mouse game...But despite that I would love to see what you have so beautifully talked about in your post in a different track...Jalal attracted to another woman and Jodha accepting the reality that Jalal can have other women in his life too (though she would remain always special to him) and Jalal not feeling guilty about it either...Me and my wishful thinking!

PS - I am liking Jalal-Atifa romance too (i know...me ready to get whipped for this)

Originally posted by: Arieltabi

Mandy great post.
My mom was saying something similar to this yesterday after watching the epi. Though she isn't liking this Jalal-Atifa and angry at Jalal and Atifa. But she is angry at Jodha too.
She said why she is showing too much concern for Khyber.Apne ghar ko chorke dusro ke bare me jyada sochne lago toh apna ghar hi tutta hai.

Originally posted by: rpeez

Awesome post Mandy!

This track at this juncture, signifies Jalaal's deep-rooted resentment at being taken for granted. I was watching the dhakka episode with my female friends, and all of them were shocked at the dhakka, and how that would be an ultimate insult for a guy.

The mental make-up of females and males are totally different, and it's difficult to compare, them, but, yes Jallu's actions right now, at least his anger is more in-line with the typical male behaviour.

For a change Hamida made sense, when she said, how humiliated Jalaal felt because of public revoking of his order. There are some things that are part of our culture, that are not part of morality as such but are still followed, because they help society function better. A guy holding a door open open for a girl is one such thing. They may not be right or wrong, but, they make your life pleasant, that's it.

Originally posted by: Joja

Am coming to forum after ages. HAd stopped watching during Jodha's night walk and run away episodes.

Started watching now, and what am I seeing?

Last time i was angry with Jodha (During Mathura episodes)

Now angry on both. Jalal for his love (not sure if its his drama or if he is attracted or whatever)

And Jodha - is she Mad. Her life is almost ruined. He did say he is angry and very clearly said he does not like her breaking rules. And again she wants to save that Khy and ruin her life more.

Rightly said - Apne ghar mein aag ko chod aur dosornke ghar ke aag bhujane chale

Originally posted by: adianasr

Mandy, somewhere I do think this track is for Jodha to knw that some boundaries cannot be crossed - though she may need many more such lessons - but I do think she will realise the foolishness of the Champawat Rajkumari issue - where she had given her word impulsively without realising all the potential pitfalls involved - which she now will - as well as understanding that there is a time and place for everything when it comes to the Emperor - she actually forgets that he is the Emperor and only remembers that he is her husband - this is something that she needs to understand and apply - as long as we get a Jodha who reflects on her actions and does not think that she has done no wrong - this track would be worth a lot - and of course TE's return is the cake, the icing on top and the cherries as well 😉!!!!!