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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: ---jais---

Bang on mansi and a very good explanation about jalal behaviour.
Firstly when i watched the episode i felt like disgusting but after watching repeat at 11 pm i felt that why this track is rushing and every time when jalal was with latifa there was strange smile on his face as like what do you want am doing all these thing and i will trap you on your game but still i will not keep my hope high because in the end i do not to want to full disappoint.
And this atifa she is such shameless lady . If she was really satayi hui abla nari she fear to live in company of shehnshah after her husband beating. But wo to chance ka maaza le rahi thi and in the last part she knew shehnshah is stand in outside of her khema and she was undressing without any shame and that time jalal has mischeif smile. And also when he talked to atgha sahab he said directly that he love atifa and he is doing wrong with jodha i cannot think jalal can say this to atgha so easily it seems like he want to tell another person that now he is love with atifa. Mansi for jalal-atifa track now i will wait and watch that how this track will unfold.
But this time my problem is jodha and her overprotectiveness towards khyber which i am not liking it. Her sympathy towards khyber is fine but now she is going too far. I can understand he will not harm jodha but what about another harem lady and person . He can harm anyone. And if he will alive there is no gurantee that he will not harm people so on this i am jalal side not jodha. She is doing wrong. Wnd without any reason unknowngly make a distance between jalal.

Exactly Jais, we do not see Jalal's expresions properly if we see the episode only once. It is when we watch again and again the real smirks and expressions fo jalal make themselves visible to us! Yes, Jodha is overdoing things!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: nabiii

Few kostins...
1.If Jalal knows atifa is MahaC's agenda then why is necessary to pretend with her? Is atifa powerful than Jalal that to catch her he needs to act with her? Jalal can easily arrest atifa! Can't he!

He needs proof of Atifa's antecedents, I think ... hence the drama!

2. Isn't so hard to believe without any dicussion with Atgha, jalal alone has made plan against Atifa?
Maybe Atga also knows and both Jalal and Atga are acting so that eavesdroppers will be misled? Anything is possible!

3. Okay i m agreeing Jalal has huge tera plan but for establishing his tera plan why is he almost ignoring Jodha? Now many r saying jalal is hiding b/c jo is preggy. So, my question is if he is so caring abt jo's health then after meeting with atifa how many times ja has inquired abt jo's health n spent times with her! For catching atifa whats type of logic it is that he has no single time to inquire abt preggy wife n unborn babies? Did he not promise he wl ample take care of Jo at the time of jo's preggy.
Don't ask for logic ... the Creatives never have proper logic!😃

4. Jalal is becoming angry with Jo near n there after atifa's entry. I understand Ja has alergy with Khy even i have no prblm with it. But why does he shout terribly with Jo for this issue despite knowing Jo is pregnant n she is grateful on khy b/c Khy saved her n babies? Can't Ja discuss with this matter calmly n cordially with Jo? He did huge pamper with ruq at the fake pregnancy time but now he went to ruq for complaining against Jo even for one time he didn't ask ruq abt how she is caring Jo, does Jo eat properly or not? Why!
Maybe Jalal is jealous if Jodha shows care and concern for some other man!??? And his own attention to Jodha is deficient because I suppose he is preoccupied with unravelling the Atifa truth?

5. Jalal said Jodha that if the wife isn't able to serve husband, she has no value! Unbelievable cheap dialogue... If Ja has plan against atifa, is it meant he wl have to misbehave with Jo like this?
No pardon for this language!

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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: nabiii

Few kostins...
1.If Jalal knows atifa is MahaC's agenda then why is necessary to pretend with her? Is atifa powerful than Jalal that to catch her he needs to act with her? Jalal can easily arrest atifa! Can't he!
2. Isn't so hard to believe without any dicussion with Atgha, jalal alone has made plan against Atifa?
3. Okay i m agreeing Jalal has huge tera plan but for establishing his tera plan why is he almost ignoring Jodha? Now many r saying jalal is hiding b/c jo is preggy. So, my question is if he is so caring abt jo's health then after meeting with atifa how many times ja has inquired abt jo's health n spent times with her! For catching atifa whats type of logic it is that he has no single time to inquire abt preggy wife n unborn babies? Did he not promise he wl ample take care of Jo at the time of jo's preggy.
4. Jalal is becoming angry with Jo near n there after atifa's entry. I understand Ja has alergy with Khy even i have no prblm with it. But why does he shout terribly with Jo for this issue despite knowing Jo is pregnant n she is grateful on khy b/c Khy saved her n babies? Can't Ja discuss with this matter calmly n cordially with Jo? He did huge pamper with ruq at the fake pregnancy time but now he went to ruq for complaining against Jo even for one time he didn't ask ruq abt how she is caring Jo, does Jo eat properly or not? Why!
5. Jalal said Jodha that if the wife isn't able to serve husband, she has no value! Unbelievable cheap dialogue... If Ja has plan against atifa, is it meant he wl have to misbehave with Jo like this?




Nabiii I agree with EVERY WORD.

Whether Jalal has a plan or not, as a husband he is showing callous attitude towards Jodha and his babies. He wants to show that he is getting drawn to Afita faking it - does that mean if he is attracted or even fallen in love with Atifa he is going to forget his babies?!!!

Horrible track towards pregnant Jodha cos NOBODY seems to care or bothered about her in Agra.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: chocobrownies

Hi Mansi!! Awesome analysis and balanced review, pleasure reading it.. 🤗

Reading ur reviews looks great than watching actual episode.. I couldn't watch yesterday episode but morning catched it.. 😊
I can't control my frustration watching Jalal n atifa scenes.. One scene I loved Jalal n Atgha scene.. And doesn't even dared to share his proper thoughts.. I loved him as a perfect atalik.. JO had a horrible dream about atifa effect on jalal.. Now she too got some alarm about this new scenario.. Even though if this was manipulative side to play in his own tricks, I couldn't find his tedapan interesting but a heartwrenching way.. Why he couldn't share his plan to atgha? Why he insulted Tansen is that was also his tedapan? All these things seems to a unbearable tedapan from his side..or this shows his one man acing up alone in taking out circumstances without harming anyone specially jo.. Then I am waiting for some more tricks in rukayya case too.. But cv's need some tragedic involvement in their writing.. Hoping for some positive growth in further episodes.. 😊

Choco, this whole mess that Jalal is doing just to unravel Atifa's plan ... please lay the blame not on Jalal the character, but on the Creatives that have put such ideas into his head and such words into his mouth. I can hope that Jalal is going to be shown as on top of things, but the process of doing so has been like a roller-coaster!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ridhiAkdhafan

nice analysis😊

After going through various post of the forum member me too believe that jalal is playng a game. I watched these episodes again and again for my satisfaction n yes I can say now we need to get ready to welcome our TE.
though we know he is playing a game with atifa but its disgusting to watch their scenes.
I just don't want another misunderstanding between ja-jo due to khyber.
We might get a clear idea of this jalal-atifa track once the next promo comes.
I seriously don't want 15 years leap. at the most I can accept ja-jo as parents to small salim

Good, that you also see the actions of Jalal differently than before. And isn't it better to have slightly aged Jo-Ja as parents of Salim rather than having a full Salim-Anarkali story with some other non Jo-Ja parents?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: MaddyO




<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Nabiii I agree with EVERY WORD.

Whether Jalal has a plan or not, as a husband he is showing callous attitude towards Jodha and his babies. He wants to show that he is getting drawn to Afita faking it - does that mean if he is attracted or even fallen in love with Atifa he is going to forget his babies?!!!

Horrible track towards pregnant Jodha cos NOBODY seems to care or bothered about her in Agra.
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maddy, exactly...for defending ja has no love,attraction,lusty for atifa,there r many analysis is going on but amid this most of us have forgotten,Ja has failed to prove him best pati(jodha,s belief) of jodha when jodha needs Ja the most!sigh
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: nabiii


maddy, exactly...for defending ja has no love,attraction,lusty for atifa,there r many analysis is going on but amid this most of us have forgotten,Ja has failed to prove him best pati(jodha,s belief) of jodha when jodha needs Ja the most!sigh


Bang on point Nabbii and Maddy,

Agree with both of you that no one is caring about Jos health in spite of her being pregnant with twins .. its just a pathetic track.. Jalal is really hurting Jo big time and going to rpent a big time as well. ..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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awesome review di...
after a longest time...i am posting in this beautiful thread of yours

the current track is giving me a headache...damn headache...yesterday episode compel me to even think whether this track was even needed becos it doesn't make sense to me...fine since atifa had made an entry...they have 1000 ways to tackle atifa track...not in such a way...

and seriously the dialogues are disgusting to even hear...maybe jallu is pretending...maybe he wants to trap atifa...but seriously the dialogues makes a mockery out of a epic romance that we watched for 1 year and still do...

well i am not analysing much on the issue and situation...i am just going by the flow...let jallu do what he wants...i am just waiting to see how the story unfolds in this track and how its tackle and the climax...and ending...even though its disgust me to watch(regardless of whatever plans he has in my mind)...its a torture...i am still going with the flow...the end of this track might be something positive...

i am just wondering...which i think you have answer for it...if he knows atifa has sent by MC and her troupe and if he has a plan to trap them...he can discuss the issue with atgah and tell him to keep it a secret till his plan is a success...why isn't he talking to atgah abt it privately...it doesn't mean it needs to be in the jungle...it can be anywhere in Agra Fort...

the only conclusion that is going to come out from this track...which i predict...jodha is not going to forgive him easily...the reason is she is keeping a unshakable trust on jallu that no matter what happens...he will not betray her love and trust...though she is suspicious abt jallu but she still trust him...one day or another...she is going to catch jallu red-handed and that will break her trust completely on him...she will not forgive him easily...she maybe in a MU...

precap...khyber's end is coming soon...

and this annoying champawat ka rajkumari track is going to create more problems for jodha and rift b/w JJ...i don't think jallu will listen to her since he has given his word to that chamapwat king

i guess we have to wait and watch
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Mansi once again salute to your positivity. 😃

I am in 2 minds about this track.

1.
Whether Jalal is actually getting caught in some honey trap by Atifa? Like she has put on something or done some hockery-pockery to make him forget himself. When she is around he is forgetting everything else in her presence. So she is actually slowly reeling him in - and he will only discover the truth when she falsely accuses him.

All of Adga Khan's dialogues over 2-3 episodes suggest to a scene in DEK where her husband is going to accuse Jalal and Atifa they have committed a sin. Why else would we have Adga say Jalal is committing a sin, he can lose his takht, this is against Sultanate laws and also Shariyat? So this big DEK scene is going to come I think.

If Jalal knows and is pretending also - how can he prove this in DEK? If her husband accuses that he took his wife along on shikar, he heard they spent time together etc.


2. If Jalal knows everything and is pretending - then I don't get why he would not behave better with Jodha in private. When Jodha came to his hojara Jalal could have given her a smile or an affectionate touch like he does to her head. Jalal did neither - surely nobody was watching him then.

Jalal's first priority should be his babies and surely if Jodha is upset then his babies are at risk. So should he not atleast try to behave better with Jodha in private? To assure her that everything is fine, he cares about her and babies.

Ever since the Jashna night, Jalal has not visited Jodha even once, not even smiled at her but only shouted. If he is pretending to fool Atifa then he should be more worried about the impact on Jodha and his babies. He could have worded his reply to her better by smiling and saying there is a lifetime for shikars right now Jodha Begum should rest so his babies stay healthy.

Jalal came across as fibbing to Jodha and he gave her a reason she would not refute. However, he did not look guilty. He did say she wants him to be a good husband - even granted he does not want to tell her cos she will worry - why not BEHAVE BETTER WITH HER IN PRIVATE?
Be more reassuring?


Since they have already shown lot of closeness and many touch Atifa scenes for not just viewers but palace people consumption - why is there going to be 9 more episodes for the track to end?

I think for sure we are going to get overdose of Ruk now. It seems impossible Jalal will reach haram to overpower Khyber! So most probably it will be SD and loads of his guards. Maybe seeing that he is caught and Khyber has not succeeded his handler himself will catch him saying he did not know about surang.

Ruk will screech and shout and poison everybody against Jodha. I am sure Ruk will not even wait for Jalal to take a breath after return to Agra before she launches into a tirade against Jodha.

Today Jalal will issue order to kill Khyber (we got the pic of him tied in the open) and Jodha will use her wish for him to be pardoned.

Khyber is going to be problem for Jodha. Since she is very grateful to him for saving her and most importantly her babies - she would not want to see him killed. To be fair Jodha has only opposed Khyber being tortured not his in jail. Cos to Jodha he is another case like Shehnaz.

Jalal will be right now in wanting to punish Khyber and even if he is not a risk to Jodha he can be to others. Whether Khyber should be killed or just sent somewhere away from Agra?

So this will cause a big MU between JJ.

The matter of Adga's son marriage will be another cause for MU I am sure. I think Jodha should have discussed this with Jalal when she went to meet him. Why wait? So another MU on the way.

Jodha is right here in supporting cos the letter clearly said rather than marry a Mughal the lady will prefer to end her life. So just imagine the shame and scandal if Jalal Adga etc. go ahead with the marriage preparations only to have the lady end her life.

I am curious about sbs spoiler - Ruk will get after Jodha - BTW what is new in this? Ruk has been against Jodha from day one!

I wish this track exposes Ruk and her plot to kill Jodha - maybe that is why there are going to be 9 more episodes.

I do not care about Atifa but I only want to see Jalal and Jodha together no MU and Jalal care for pregnant Jodha.

Ruk bhandafod and BIG PUNISHMENT in DEK? CVs favorite Ruk? Will we EVER get it?




Maddy I don't know whether Jalal has something up his sleeve or becoming a slave to Atifa's beauty. Like every time we use to think Jalal has some plan B plan C and end up with none, it can happen this time as well. But if things go wrong and Jalal had to face the heat in DEK, I hope the only person who can save him will be Atgah Khan. But if he planning to bring this out open in DEK to disclose the truth of Atifa, the he may lead her to believe he was trapped by her sinful beauty and can't take his eyes and hands off her and is dying to spend his night with her alone in the jungle. So it doesn't require Jalal to enter her Kema but him watching her changing can cause him damage (if he is planning this). At the precise moment while Jalal is watching her through the curtains and smiling to himself, if her husband and few other people reach the spot and declare Jalal as Gunhegar and a sick, pervert who watched a married lady changing and might ask for the justice to her husband and also for her. In that precise moment, Jalal might propose her husband to divorce her and then he will marry her to give justice. This might backfire on their plan as they may not have planned for divorce. And using that momentum, Jalal might reveal their truth about they being planted by MC.
Again, about 9 more episodes, I think they may be planning to bring evil out of Ruqu to harm Jodha in Jalal's absence. So I think Ruqu and Maham will eat away few episodes. An my wishful thinking that along with Kyber, I wish even Chand Begum enters Jodha's hojra from that same Surang and reveal herself to the world.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Mansi once again salute to your positivity. 😃

I am in 2 minds about this track.

1.
Whether Jalal is actually getting caught in some honey trap by Atifa? Like she has put on something or done some hockery-pockery to make him forget himself. When she is around he is forgetting everything else in her presence. So she is actually slowly reeling him in - and he will only discover the truth when she falsely accuses him.

If Atifa is indeed wearing some attractant scenets like pheromone etc. then its a good sign Jalal is questioning why she is attracting him. It shows that is not fully trapped and he is still able to ask questions with some mental clarity here and there!

All of Adga Khan's dialogues over 2-3 episodes suggest to a scene in DEK where her husband is going to accuse Jalal and Atifa they have committed a sin. Why else would we have Adga say Jalal is committing a sin, he can lose his takht, this is against Sultanate laws and also Shariyat? So this big DEK scene is going to come I think.
I got a different idea from the Atga scene. There could be one possibility though its a bit way out ... what if Jalal has told Atga his suspicions and Jalal and Atga had this discussion for the benefit of some eavesdroppers?

If Jalal knows and is pretending also - how can he prove this in DEK? If her husband accuses that he took his wife along on shikar, he heard they spent time together etc.
Jalal may have to prove that this man was not Atifa's husband at all! So the question of philandering with "another man's wife" doesn't arise.

2. If Jalal knows everything and is pretending - then I don't get why he would not behave better with Jodha in private. When Jodha came to his hojara Jalal could have given her a smile or an affectionate touch like he does to her head. Jalal did neither - surely nobody was watching him then.
The only explanation I can think of so far is that maybe Jalal didn't want to tell Jo during her pregnancy the bad news that MC has sent one more assassin to take his life!

Jalal's first priority should be his babies and surely if Jodha is upset then his babies are at risk. So should he not atleast try to behave better with Jodha in private? To assure her that everything is fine, he cares about her and babies.
For dramatic effect the Creatives will sink everything, I think ... even the natural affinity of a father on his "yet-to-born-and-so-much-desired babies"!

Ever since the Jashna night, Jalal has not visited Jodha even once, not even smiled at her but only shouted. If he is pretending to fool Atifa then he should be more worried about the impact on Jodha and his babies. He could have worded his reply to her better by smiling and saying there is a lifetime for shikars right now Jodha Begum should rest so his babies stay healthy.
No explanation for this one. In fact no excuses for the Creatives!

Jalal came across as fibbing to Jodha and he gave her a reason she would not refute. However, he did not look guilty. He did say she wants him to be a good husband - even granted he does not want to tell her cos she will worry - why not BEHAVE BETTER WITH HER IN PRIVATE?
Be more reassuring?

😡😡😡😡 Again, no explanation or excuses for this one!

Since they have already shown lot of closeness and many touch Atifa scenes for not just viewers but palace people consumption - why is there going to be 9 more episodes for the track to end?
The Creatives love to make the audiences walk on hot coals! When we sweat they have a ball!

I think for sure we are going to get overdose of Ruk now. It seems impossible Jalal will reach haram to overpower Khyber! So most probably it will be SD and loads of his guards. Maybe seeing that he is caught and Khyber has not succeeded his handler himself will catch him saying he did not know about surang.

Ruk will screech and shout and poison everybody against Jodha. I am sure Ruk will not even wait for Jalal to take a breath after return to Agra before she launches into a tirade against Jodha.
Yes for sure we are gettinga lot of Ruq, but if she trips and falls, my day is made!👍🏼🥳

Today Jalal will issue order to kill Khyber (we got the pic of him tied in the open) and Jodha will use her wish for him to be pardoned.
That is for certain. And thus Jodha will use up her one and only wish and become feeble in the face of Ruq's "double-wish" status!

Khyber is going to be problem for Jodha. Since she is very grateful to him for saving her and most importantly her babies - she would not want to see him killed. To be fair Jodha has only opposed Khyber being tortured not his in jail. Cos to Jodha he is another case like Shehnaz.
I hope in full filmy tradition Jodha brings outa Raakhi and ties it for Khyber. then both Jalal and Khyber will both know what she feels. This Khyber is also getting on my nerves with his animal passion!

Jalal will be right now in wanting to punish Khyber and even if he is not a risk to Jodha he can be to others. Whether Khyber should be killed or just sent somewhere away from Agra?

So this will cause a big MU between JJ.
I think out of sheer fear we all use the word MU so often in our posts. If we take a count of the most used word on the forum it may be "MU".

The matter of Adga's son marriage will be another cause for MU I am sure. I think Jodha should have discussed this with Jalal when she went to meet him. Why wait? So another MU on the way.
No I differ here, maddy. I think Jodha and Jalal will end up giving this Rajkumari a bhashan on religious harmony and that's how she will agree to marry Atga's son. Ekta will do this "religious harmony" thing!

Jodha is right here in supporting cos the letter clearly said rather than marry a Mughal the lady will prefer to end her life. So just imagine the shame and scandal if Jalal Adga etc. go ahead with the marriage preparations only to have the lady end her life.

I am curious about sbs spoiler - Ruk will get after Jodha - BTW what is new in this? Ruk has been against Jodha from day one!
I thought SBS said Ruq will try to kill Jodha!😲😲😲😲

I wish this track exposes Ruk and her plot to kill Jodha - maybe that is why there are going to be 9 more episodes.

I do not care about Atifa but I only want to see Jalal and Jodha together no MU and Jalal care for pregnant Jodha.
Ruk bhandafod and BIG PUNISHMENT in DEK? CVs favorite Ruk? Will we EVER get it?

If we change the Creatives we will get Ruq punishment. That's why Diksha and I are applying to join Balaji Creative Team, just to finish off Ruq in one stroke. Believe me, if I get a job as Creative I will finish Ruq with one just one masterstroke of my pen ... I will make Jalal says "Uska sar kalaam kar do!" Then I will make somebody ask "But why Shahenshah?" And then I will make Jalal answer "Kyunki uska mazaa alag hi hai!"


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