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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: ---jais---


Jaya kaha ho aap . Missing you and your post .
Btw good post of jodha . I am also not understand her overprotective nature towards khyber.

Hi I was travelling, so could not come on line nor could watch the episodes and now I am back and my Hathway network has some issues with Zee hence no telecast of Zee channel for few more days. Mansi is providing the SMS update after the episode and I am living on that right now.
See the problem with Jodha is that she is a pure soul who believes in everyone instantly and that was the same case with Shehnaz as well. Added to that in this case, if not for Kyber, she would have lost her kids and any mother will try to save that person who saved her child from the death. Since Kyber can't express his point or his feelings, since he can't talk, she is taking an extra inclination towards him. When she was thinking him to hurt or her kill her, he turned out to be her savior hence she feels that she is indebted to him and owe him save his life.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: rima4ever

fantastic analysis

its so good to read your review
in a forum filled with jalal hate posts

I wasn't aware the forum is doing hate posts on Jalal ... but then I haven't had time to check the forum since I am replying the posts on this thread. let the hate posts be ... this week all will change tune, I think?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: shilpagowda

i was trusting him before - i doubt now - he surely is fallen for her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!how can he lie to jo & more over the way he was seeing her when she was undressing --it is totally awful 😡 i hate cvs for this🤢 & confessing his love in front of Atga i am worried for jo now😭

Take heart, he is just acting with Atifa. Of this I am quite quite certain!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44
nice analysis😊
After going through various post of the forum member me too believe that jalal is playng a game. I watched these episodes again and again for my satisfaction n yes I can say now we need to get ready to welcome our TE.
though we know he is playing a game with atifa but its disgusting to watch their scenes.
I just don't want another misunderstanding between ja-jo due to khyber.
We might get a clear idea of this jalal-atifa track once the next promo comes.
I seriously don't want 15 years leap. at the most I can accept ja-jo as parents to small salim
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Mansi appreciating u for ur positive analysis... Aftr four episodes just now I watched complete episode to see only his expressions... But I dint feel any tede plan from his side... He is one disgusting moron who likes to sleep around with any random woman n watching them undressed... I'm only feeling bad for Jo at this preg time there was no one to take care of her... How shamelessly that jalal was saying that he shud b there with Jo at this time but stil he cudnt control his feelings for atifa so left Jo...

Jalal became cheap characterless person insulted tansen (I feel tansen shud go from Agra) and dint listen to atgah fatherly advice.(who is damn irritated with jalal )... How much ever plan he has y wil his self talk think abt atifa? Who wil listen his self talk??
Does it look good to see a married woman undressing n smiling lik idiot?? (Even if he has plan)

He can't b redeemed mansi until cvs show sme strong reason to convince us... I hv two questions for them
1) why is he thinking abt atifa during self talk during painting scene??
2) why is he hiding n ignoring Jo and also shouting at her during preg time ?

Jalal is thinking about Atifa during painting scene because that is when he gets the first doubts as to why this lady is attracting his interest. I think like ben she too must be using some drug-like substance - maybe some pheromone scenets etc - to attract Jalal. If he is able to think for himself why he is attracted then that itself shows that he is not fully entrapped and is able to logically analyse things.
In the end they plan to show that perhaps that he did not want to alarm Jo during pregnancy that another benazirr-type lady has been sent to kill him by MC. Maybe he kept Jo in the dark so as to not alarm her during her pregnancy time. At least I think some such explanation will be given by the Creatives!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Donjas

The arguments that Jalal is play acting make a lot so sense but I am still not convinced. What is more likely, the CV's show a spineless, foolish Jalal who once again makes a big mistake and is then rescued or a Teda, clever Jalal who is in total control of the situation and is toying with his prey.


Let me remind you that the last time the Teda Jalal was seen in this serial was in October of last year. The CV's have been bashing him ever since, why should they do a U turn now. Their track record suggest that Jalal has really fallen in love with this Atifa but she is some plant of MC. He will learn and repent. The repenting and ghrina will provide material for the next 100 episodes.

I am hopeful but my hopes are low.

Please stay on the hopeful side ... that's all I am able to divulge for the time being!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: thethinker

Although my mind is switching like a pendulum, i have this obsessive compulsive thing that i need to know what jalal and atifa are upto. Cannot, just cannot wait for 9 more agonising episodes.

Ofcourse i had predicted and badly want jalal to be on the right side of things for a break. But there are some nagging points... here goes

By now we all know that horrid atifa is some sort of a charmer trying to phasao the 'perceived casanova' in jalal but the big question is - does he know and is playing along or does he not and is being genuinely taken in.

If he knows:
1. Why is he not just doing pardaphash and ending this stupid nonsense. What is he waiting for? Why is he playing along? If you say he wants to get to the roots of this chaal, then y not take jodha or atgah into confidence? Even if he doesnt yet knw what atifa and her hubby want, ger gustakhi to use her special powers to trap the shehenshah shd be enough reason for punishment.

2. If the CVs want to show that jalal knew all along they will have to justify his romantic endeavours with atifa. The cvs will have to replay all these coochie coo moments shown from jalal's perspective. But the CVs have gone too far and shown too much yo establish this mystery. If they have to replay all the scenes it will take them till october!

For instance (once it is clear that jalal knew) the creatives have to show why he drew her painting, why he looks at her when jo is in his room, why he touched her the first time abd second and third, why the shikar, why the peeping into her hojara... the list is endless. And i dont think they will leave anything for the audience to guess.


If he doesnt know anything

1. Why would the CVs engage in OTT establishing of the fact that he is attrscted towards her? They could have wrapped these disgusting scenes in one episide. Devoting 10 episodes to this means there is more than meets the eye.

2. Why have double meaning dialogues if at the very end they will mean nothing? There has to be a reason why jalal is being given these words.

Great writeup Mansi, its the only saving grace in this confused state of happenings.
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I think the answers to your questions are that the Creatives are over-hyping all this for greater dramatic effect during the khulasa. All sorts of nonsense happens in the dramatic phase of tracks just to make the bhandaphod a bombshell!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Mansi if he has any tede plan then y he took atifa alone?? Y not her husband who is equally important in this crime.. He left whole harem there wer new Kabul gang n atifa husband r stil there... Doesn't he think that they try to harm his begums if he knows they came to harm him... If he really has tede plan he wud hv called both atifa and her husband then trying to cme close to her n her husband see that... Then they may discuss their plan in their tent which he can overhear it... But this is no tede plan n he truly has fallen for her... If he really thinks that atifa n her gang came to harm them... Wat for he is waiting?? Y can't he just put them in jail and interrogate... Y he took this much risk ?? Can't he know that those Kabul ppl can kill their wives? How can jalal b so sure that jodha wil b safe in this two days ?

I think that may not even be the real husband of Atifa. If Atifa is a plant by MC then the "husband" must be also drama acting as a wife-beater just to pull Jalal's sympathy for Atifa?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Friends, when I sent my word update by SMS last night to many friends who didn't want to watch this horrible episode, I got back return SMS-es saying "If the word update itself makes me want to puke so badly, thank God I didn't watch the episode!"

Truly, at first glance, the episode yesterday was more than puke worthy. It was DISGUSTING especially the scenes of Jalal and Atifa.

Firstly that shikar trip and Jalal's over-fondling of Atifa's hands and his eyelocks and the way he was standing too close to her and constantly rubbing shoulders with her were HORRIBLE. Add to that, his words then to Atga, when Atga was warning him against such licentious behaviour with Atifa. Jalal said "I know what I am doing is very wrong. But what can I do, Atifa has conquered my senses. I know I am cheating on Jodha but I cannot seem to help it! I never thought I could love anyone but Jodha but Atifa has ensnared me." YECH, BLECH, I felt awful to hear that admission. The words kept banging in my head like a bad migraine. And then over and above all this was that GODAWFUL scene of Atifa undressing in her khema - and Jalal standing just outside staring through the flimsy purdah. The b****y shameless hussy! How much more do we need to see before this track ends? This Atifa in this last undressing scene looked as if she knew he was there staring at her unashamedly and indeed only a jezebel like her would even undress without adequate closing of the her room with decently thicker curtains!!!!!!

I was ready for technicolor vomit myself, folks, I don't know how I lived through it all.

Mansi I LOVE your choice words in the above para. I remember you had called Jalal luchha lafanga in theory 1 last week 😆😆

Then I saw an SMS from Diksha saying "Watch the scenes again ... for Jalal looks as if he knows fully well what he is doing. He knows what Atifa is up to. He is in fact following her every move with shrewdness. Watch his words to her with double meanings in the shikar scene and later watch his exact smile in the Atifa undressing scene. His smile looks like he knows she is trying to trap him!"

True enough yesterday afternoon itself we had all seen a spoiler that said that Atifa was a plant of Mahchuchak in the same possible mould of a Benazir, perhaps, and Jalal was fully aware of what Atifa was up to and was being very crafty in his handling of her, but we forgot that spoiler in the distaste of watching Jalal with Atifa in the less-than-savoury scenes.

So, as Diksha advised, I watched the episode again and again a few times more ... and guess what, Diksha was 100% right. If you watch Jalal very, very closely - and register his expressions and not just his words - they are very revealing that he is on top of this game that Atifa is playing. He clearly seems to know that she is a "honey trap", so to speak, and he is doing everything very calculatedly to outplay her at her own game, it seems.

Here are just some of the moments when we can clearly see that Jalal is fully aware of what is happening to him a la Atifa ... and that he is playing his own game in the process with her, trying perhaps to ensnare her in her own trap ...

- On the shikar trip, he tells her "to take her purdah off her face and show it to all" which seems in hindsight like a snide remark to imply that she needs to stop hiding behind her chaal and show her real ugly face to the world.
- Then later he slays a bear with a lance thrown from a great distance. A very impressed-looking Atifa, batting her eyelashes at him, then says "Oh God, you can throw a weapon this far?" He artfully replies "Why have you never seen this kind of prowess before?" "No" she says "I thought killing animals from so far needed a bow and arrows." "Oh that's because till today you have not seen Jalaluddin Mohammed doing shikar!" he says with loaded double meaning.
- He then proceeds to throw the lance again at another animal. "Allah" says Atifa, "Its unbelievable." "Well you better believe it", says Jalal again with double entendre.
- "Huzoor, should we collect the bear to take back?" one of the sipahis then asks. "No let it lie there," says Jalal. "What is this shikar that the Shahenshah is doing where he's not interested in taking back the dead animals?" the sipahi tells his colleague. The other sipahi replies "Looks like he is less interested in the shikar itself and more interested in putting his skills on display !" It seems at that moment that the sipahi has got it just right, and that Jalal is less interested in shikar itself and more interested in giving warnings to Atifa that she had better beware of his shrewdness and counter-offensive!
- Then look again when Atga tells Jalal that he doesn't approve of his behaviour with Atifa for it is a gunah under Sultanate Law and Shariat law. Look carefully at Jalal's face as he looks at the ground and takes a moment to register Atga's concern - and then collects himself with an underhand glance at Atga and then answers with a seemingly docile air of submission to Atga. I thought that one look of Jalal as he thought something to himself and then glanced with narrowed lids at Atga and then answered in a put-on acquiescent tone was too much of a clue to his real game.
I have written the update of the whole episode below for those who still don't want to watch the episode.

But if any of you have the stomach for it I would highly recommend that you see the episode for yourself because the word update is not able to bring out the little nuances of Jalal's expressions and his look of knowingness. I am not able to fully bring out the cues that Jalal is giving out that he is on top of the situation and engaging in his own charades.

Anyway, here's what all happened in the episode yesterday ...

Jodha is in Jalal's hojra asking him why he is not taking her for the shikar trip. "You know I usually don't like these trips and the killing of innocent animals. But still you used to take me along for the company. This time you yourself don't seem to want me to go with you?" she asks. Jalal looks shifty-eyed, and he stares everywhere - at the walls, the floor, everywhere - except at her. He goes to sit on the bed and she follows him there. He briefly looks at the painting of Atifa and then hums and haws and says "You see, Jodha Begum, if I take you alone, the other Begums will feel upset. And it's impossible to take the whole lot. You wanted me to be a good husband to all the wives, didn't you?"

Jodha has to reluctantly accept the point. "Okay" she says ... but as she gets up to go she lingers a while longer looking at the painting of Atifa with a question in her eyes. He sees her looking at it, and bows his head so as to not reveal his thoughts.

In the jail cell of Khyber, his handler (who is disguised as a sipahi) finds a small gaping hole in the corner of the cell and matches it to the map in his hand. "How strange that neither the Shahenshah nor his wafaadaars know that there is a direct surang from this very cell to the inside rooms of the Palace. And yet begum Mahchuchak knew this and has put it on the map. Now all her plans are to come to fruition", the handler thinks.

Meanwhile some sipahis guarding the cell from outside are talking about the lucky sipahis going on shikar with the Shahenshah. "They will first do shikar and then have a jashn, no doubt" they say to each other wistfully. "Wish we could take their place some time," another sipahi says. "It's all in Sharifuddin Sahib's hands, and he won't let us switch places" says a third sipahi. Just then they hear a noise and go into the cell of Khyber to investigate. But there is just Khyber there making his graons and grunts ... and no one else.

The soldiers are relieved that the noises are only from Khyber and leave the cell. But then one of them notices that the handler of Khyber (the other inside-sipahi) was missing. They go to look inside the cell again ... but now that sipahi inside has returned and is standing there! They go away.

In the jungle, Jalal and Atga followed by the whole troupe of Tansen are seen riding on horses on the shikar trip. Jalal tells Atga to set up a khema for them all at the next clearing and Atga agrees and leaves the group to go ahead. Jalal is now riding alongside Atifa who is wearing her dupatta as a purdah on her face. "Is the weather so bad as to require a purdah?" Jalal asks her. "No Huzoor, but my husband wants me to always keep my face covered," she replies. "But your husband is not here. What I mean is, you are safe in the protection of the sipahis of the Mughal Sultanate. So why don't you lift your purdah off your face and take in the beauty of Nature while we can all take in the beauty of your face?" Jalal says. Atifa removes the purdah off her face and Jalal is seen shamelessly looking at her all the time they are riding forward.

Suddenly it looks like rain. "All of you please take shelter from the rains in the encampment," Jalal says to the group. "What? Can we not go on to do some shikar?" asks Atifa as if she is hell-bent on shikar, to which Tansen replies "No the Shahenshah wishes to rest. And until the weather clears shikar won't be possible either."Atifa to the contrary says "Oh God, how much peace there is in the open air that we won't get in the khema" and Jalal notices this and decides to give in to her wishes.

Jalal then shouts out to Tansen "I too am ready for more shikar, so Tansen Saab, you and the rest of the troupe please rest in the khemas and I will proceed for shikar." Tansen is too glad of the rest. Jalal and Atifa are thus left alone to enjoy the weather and the shikar, as they keep glancing at each other.

In Salima's room, Jodha is buying more toys for Rahim from the same toy seller. Jodha demurs when Salima asks why. "The other days some toys broke, so Rahim gets some more!" she says. "When you have your own kids, I don't know how you are going to manage them?" says Salima to Jodha - when suddenly Salima has to go in answer to a summons by Hamida. As soon as Salima goes, the toy seller asks Jodha "What is your reply Jodha Begum for my Rajkumari? Willl you help her?" Jodha fishes out a paigam she has written for the Rajkumari, and gives it to the toy seller and says "Tell your Rajkumari to keep patience. And not worry either. I will keep my word to help her." "Thanks Ma'am" says the toy seller stashing away the paigam as she takes leave of Jodha and Rahim. Jodha then thinks to herself "I am sure that when I tell Jalal that the Champavati Rajkumari is not ready for marriage with Atga's son, Jalal will cancel this marriage."

At a particular spot in the jungle, Jalal is then seen telling Atifa "Come, give me your hand", as he helps her clamber onto a wooden lookout structure suited for spying the animals from. They both are alone, but for a few sipahis standing at the base of the lookout. As Atifa gets onto the lookout with Jalal he holds her shoulders to steady her. "From here we can get a good panoramic view of the jungle" he says when they hear the sounds of some wild animals. "Some noise there?" she says. He replies "It sounds like a bear!" He then removes his overcoat and asks her to hold it. He takes a lance into his hand and proceeds to throw it javelin style in the direction of the bear. It seems on target as the bear gives a wounded sound. "Oh God," says a very impressed Atifa, batting her eyelashes at him, "You can throw this far?" "Why have you never seen this kind of prowess before?" he asks her. "No" she replies "I thought killing animals from so far needed a bow and arrows." "Oh that's because till today you have not seen Jalaluddin Mohammed doing shikar!" he says with double meaning.

Jalal then tells his men to go and check if the bear there is still alive or not. The men run. "Huzoor, the bear is dead" they say. "Allah" says Atifa, "Its unbelievable." "Well you better believe it" says Jalal again with double meanings. "Huzoor, should we collect the bear to take back?" one of the sipahis asks . "No let it lie there," says Jalal. "Okay let's do another shikar of another animal" says Jalal drawing another lance into his hand. The sipahis at the base of the lookout talk to each other "What is this shikar that the Shahenshah is doing where he's not interested in taking back the dead animals?" The other sipahi replies "Looks like he is less interested in the shikar itself and more interested in showing off his skills!"

"Can you see any more wild animals hereabouts?" Jalal asks Atifa as he throws the lance one more time. She continues to be very impressed and their nearness to each other is growing closer. Atga riding back towards them sees them both on the lookout and is very uncomfortable with what he sees. Jalal's behaviour with Atifa troubles him a great deal!

After the shikar, at the khema, Tansen and his troupe are engaging the whole shikar group with their music. Jalal watches mesmerised as Tansen sings but is more interested in hearing Atifa as she sings a couple of lines here and there between Tansen's lines. Jalal s eyes wear the look of a man drunk on the singing of Atifa. Suddenly when Atifa completes her two lines and Tansen starts singing his part of the melody, Jalal signals to Tansen to stop singing. Atga is very miffed. "What is the Shahenshah doing, this is apmaan' on Tansen!" he thinks to himself.

"I want only Atifa to sing" says Jalal openly. A downbeat Tansen then leaves the stage with his veena, and Atifa begins singing again - whereby we and Atga have to suffer Jalal looking at her like a besotted fool. At the end of the singing, Jalal goes up to Atifa saying "Subanallah!" and gives her his ring as a gift. As she turns to go along with everyone else in the room, Atga lingers to have a word with Jalal.

"Huzoor, if I have your permission, I want to say a few words to you." Atga says hesitantly. "Sure" says Jalal. "What you are doing these days is very wrong, Huzoor, it's a gunah!" Atga says. " What is the gunah?" asks Jalal. "To bring a married lady with you, to keep looking at her and getting close enough to be touching her is all a gunah not only according to the laws of the Sultanate but even according the Shariat Law. And you know all this better than I do, but as your atalik and bearing in mind my own position in the Mughal Sultanate it's my duty to warn you." Atga says.

Jalal looks shrewdly at Atga for a second and then suddenly wears a docile tone. "You are right, Atga Sahib, you are my atalik and always interested in my welfare. But when I hear Atifa sing, I lose control of my senses. I know it is wrong what I am doing, especially to my wives .. and most especially to Jodha Begum, to whom I am doing "na insaafi'. I know I should have been with Jodha Begum at this time and should not have come on this shikar trip. But to tell you the truth, not only Atifa's face but even thoughts of her are pulling at me. Truly speaking, I never thought I would love anybody but Jodha Begum. Atifa has made me her slave. And further, my own mind has done gaddhari' with me." Jalal gives a feeble smile of resignation as if to indicate submission to the pull of fate" ... Atga nods his dissent but keeps quiet.

In the next scene, Khyber's handler is seen releasing him from his chains in the jail cell. "Khyber, come this way, follow me" says the handler leading him to the surang opening in a corner of the cell. The restless Khyber follows.

Sharif suddenly decides to visit the jail cell of Khyber for he is the jail in-charge. He orders his sipahis to open the cell door, but when he enters there's no sign of Khyber or the sipahi in charge of him! Sharif is alarmed. "Where are these two?" he asks his other sipahis and slaps one of them in disgust. Then he realises what has happened. Khyber has bolted with the sipahi guarding him. "Go find this darinda, he is faraar'" shouts Sharif in a fiery wash of anger. "How can such a huge darinda hide himself from public eyes, unless he has got wind of some secret passage?" he wonders privately. Sharif looks around the cell in detail, as he suddenly spots the surang aperture in a corner of the cell. He is filled with dread and alarm!

In her hojra, Jodha is asleep at night, when she has pleasant dreams of Jalal sitting on the bed beside her, caressing her face and telling her how much he loves her. They touch foreheads together and Jodha is enjoying this dream - when suddenly the dream takes a different turn. Jodha sees herself as standing and watching Jalal and Atifa together, where Jalal is caressing Atifa's hair and locking foreheads with her. Jodha awakens from her dream with a great fear in her heart. "Oh Kanha," she prays "why am I getting such dreams? Thinking about him wrongly like this isn't okay, " she tells herself. She tries to calm herself down, but her eyes and face are very troubled.

In the jungle meanwhile, Jalal is walking along as he passes the khema of Atifa. To his pleasant surprise through the sheer purdah of her khema he can see her undressing inside. He is fixated. He keeps shamelessly watching her undress, and gives a smile as if he is ready to go inside for the kill. Inside the khema, Atifa looks mighty pleased with herself as if she almost knows she is being watched by him. (Shameless trollop!)

In the palace we follow Khyber as he passes Ruq's room and then Salima's. Then he finally lands in Jodha's hojra. He nears her bed and then through the flimsy curtains of her bed's purdah he stops to stare at Jodha, with animal passion in his eyes. The episode ends here.

In the precap, we see Jodha and Jalal exchanging heated words. "Jodha is shouting at Jalal "Don't forget that you got the title of Akbar' for showing compassion and not for killing people with your sword." Jalal shouts back "That doesn't mean, Jodha Begum, that anyone can enter my harem and I will forgive them. Khyber will die, and his death will be so gruesome that no one will dare enter my harem again".

My comments on this episode:

Judging from the many spoilers that hit our forum yesterday, it looks like the whole of this week will go on this Atifa track. Spoilers also suggest that Atifa is a plant of Mahchuchak and that Jalal knows she is here to trap him and he is playing cleverer games than she to entrap her at her own games.

To all those refusing to watch the serial for fear of having to bear watching Jalal romancing Atifa, I have just one word to say. Fear not, guys, for if it's true that Jalal is smarter than Atifa in this game she is playing with him, then every forthcoming episode will give us many hints of "teda Jalal" being cleverer than Atifa and outsmarting her. Just because we are scared to watch Jalal romancing Atifa we should not avoid watching the perspicacity of Jalal ... for we will miss the thrill of seeing Jalal outmanoeuvring her. We all wanted to see "teda Jalal" in action, and here it looks like we have the chance to see him like that finally, so why lose the opportunity to see him at his best just because the scenes between him and Atifa are a bit too close for comfort?

Accha, coming to what might happen now in today's episode, I think Jalal may be in a state of readiness to enter the khema of Atifa where she is undressing (God help us!) but he will be saved from really entering ... because they may all get sudden word sent by Sharif that Khyber has escaped from jail along with his dubious handler, and that a surang was detected in the cell leading into the harem.

I think Jalal will run back to the palace with the entire shikar group, and start himself searching the rooms of his Begums for signs of Khyber. (If Jalal is really distraught that Jodha may be in danger from Khyber then we can deduce who Jalal still loves from the bottom of his heart!).

According to another spoiler that came, Khyber will be actually caught red-handed caressing a wisp of hair from Jodha's forehead as she sleeps blissfully. Jalal will then probably overpower Khyber and have him chains very soon and declare a "saza-e-maut" for Khyber. That is when perhaps when we will see this precap scene of the altercation between Jodha and Jalal. She will tell him he didn't get the title of "Akbar" for killing people, he got it for compassion ... and Khyber did not do anything harmful to her and he therefore needn't be killed. But Jalal will fire off at Jodha that no one, but no one, can get away from a death sentence after entering his harem with such impunity.

Normally I would expect that this week would be just full of Khyber and his saza-e-maut ... and Jodha maybe will be using her "wish" to save Khyber from death. This week I would also expect that Jalal will continue his outplaying of Atifa while giving the impression of coochey-cooing with her ...

... but yesterday SBS dropped another twist into the works and said something else is also going to happen this week or next. They said Ruq will now try to kill Jodha. Oh my God, what a tangled web this is all turning out to be! For if Ruq is trying to kill Jodha, and we are to take that old spoiler we once got that Maham will expose Ruq, then perhaps Maham is also going to be seen more this week, as Ruq tries to kill Jodha. Maham may even be seen encouraging Ruq to do so ... just so that she can then trip up Ruq, maybe, as the culprit to Jalal?

Over and above all this during this week, I am inclined to believe this sanket we are all getting that by October there will be a leap of fifteen years, whereby Salim will be shown as a grown up boy.

My hunch is that now the tracks that are all open will start getting closure one by one at high speed between now and October. We have the Khyber issue, the Atifa issue, the Chand Begum issue, the Nigar identity issue, the Adham fraud issue and the death of Atga, Adham and even maybe Maham.We have the birth of the twins and the death of the twins to go through (and maybe also the stillborn child of Bakshi to witness?) And then we have to also go through Jalal and Jodha taking a mannat for the birth of Salim and the actual birth of Salim.

I think all this will now hit the screen at full speed by October, and we will end this pre-leap phase with the successful birth of Salim. Then we will have the leap and we will see Salim as a boy of fifteen and pick up the story of Jodha Akbar from there! The leap too has been confirmed by a credible spoiler.

I would seriously say to all of you folks who read my posts, don't stop watching just out of fear of seeing Jalal with Atifa. This is by far the best time we may have had - for in the immediate present we may be able to see "teda Jalal" at his best ... and in the longer run too, it's going to be an action-packed two and half months before the leap!



Mansi once again salute to your positivity. 😃

I am in 2 minds about this track.

1.
Whether Jalal is actually getting caught in some honey trap by Atifa? Like she has put on something or done some hockery-pockery to make him forget himself. When she is around he is forgetting everything else in her presence. So she is actually slowly reeling him in - and he will only discover the truth when she falsely accuses him.

All of Adga Khan's dialogues over 2-3 episodes suggest to a scene in DEK where her husband is going to accuse Jalal and Atifa they have committed a sin. Why else would we have Adga say Jalal is committing a sin, he can lose his takht, this is against Sultanate laws and also Shariyat? So this big DEK scene is going to come I think.

If Jalal knows and is pretending also - how can he prove this in DEK? If her husband accuses that he took his wife along on shikar, he heard they spent time together etc.


2. If Jalal knows everything and is pretending - then I don't get why he would not behave better with Jodha in private. When Jodha came to his hojara Jalal could have given her a smile or an affectionate touch like he does to her head. Jalal did neither - surely nobody was watching him then.

Jalal's first priority should be his babies and surely if Jodha is upset then his babies are at risk. So should he not atleast try to behave better with Jodha in private? To assure her that everything is fine, he cares about her and babies.

Ever since the Jashna night, Jalal has not visited Jodha even once, not even smiled at her but only shouted. If he is pretending to fool Atifa then he should be more worried about the impact on Jodha and his babies. He could have worded his reply to her better by smiling and saying there is a lifetime for shikars right now Jodha Begum should rest so his babies stay healthy.

Jalal came across as fibbing to Jodha and he gave her a reason she would not refute. However, he did not look guilty. He did say she wants him to be a good husband - even granted he does not want to tell her cos she will worry - why not BEHAVE BETTER WITH HER IN PRIVATE?
Be more reassuring?


Since they have already shown lot of closeness and many touch Atifa scenes for not just viewers but palace people consumption - why is there going to be 9 more episodes for the track to end?

I think for sure we are going to get overdose of Ruk now. It seems impossible Jalal will reach haram to overpower Khyber! So most probably it will be SD and loads of his guards. Maybe seeing that he is caught and Khyber has not succeeded his handler himself will catch him saying he did not know about surang.

Ruk will screech and shout and poison everybody against Jodha. I am sure Ruk will not even wait for Jalal to take a breath after return to Agra before she launches into a tirade against Jodha.

Today Jalal will issue order to kill Khyber (we got the pic of him tied in the open) and Jodha will use her wish for him to be pardoned.

Khyber is going to be problem for Jodha. Since she is very grateful to him for saving her and most importantly her babies - she would not want to see him killed. To be fair Jodha has only opposed Khyber being tortured not his in jail. Cos to Jodha he is another case like Shehnaz.

Jalal will be right now in wanting to punish Khyber and even if he is not a risk to Jodha he can be to others. Whether Khyber should be killed or just sent somewhere away from Agra?

So this will cause a big MU between JJ.

The matter of Adga's son marriage will be another cause for MU I am sure. I think Jodha should have discussed this with Jalal when she went to meet him. Why wait? So another MU on the way.

Jodha is right here in supporting cos the letter clearly said rather than marry a Mughal the lady will prefer to end her life. So just imagine the shame and scandal if Jalal Adga etc. go ahead with the marriage preparations only to have the lady end her life.

I am curious about sbs spoiler - Ruk will get after Jodha - BTW what is new in this? Ruk has been against Jodha from day one!

I wish this track exposes Ruk and her plot to kill Jodha - maybe that is why there are going to be 9 more episodes.

I do not care about Atifa but I only want to see Jalal and Jodha together no MU and Jalal care for pregnant Jodha.

Ruk bhandafod and BIG PUNISHMENT in DEK? CVs favorite Ruk? Will we EVER get it?




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Originally posted by: NATURESHIVANI

Sjperb post dear and thanks for clarifying some doubts i watch yesterday epi and i feel that he was not attracted but try to pretend like attracted n the way he continously flirting n the last scene it seems like he want to know how much low is she can fall for now i can think he will play the two side of coin together may be finger croosss hope we get every thing unfold soon

I think we have to wait till this week is over at least, maybe even a few episodes next week ... this track is slated for 10 episodes I heard!

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