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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Dear Mansi,

I keep wondering how you come up with so much positivity in spite of the most disgusting episodes. But this time Mansi.. I agree with you and Diksha that Jalal is really playing along.. I hope so.. but I could not understand one thing here..what was the need to lie to Atgah? Was it just that he thought that there is someone eavesdropping from behind the curtains.. May be..

But Lo.. he insulted Tansen also.. Tansen should really walk out of Agra .. what an insult to such a great singer.. it was terrible to watch.. Atifaa's strip tease was more than pukeworthy.. it seemed that she had purposely kept the mirror in such a position where she was able to see Jalal but Jalal wont be able to see her..So she knew the exact moment when Jalal was watching her and then proceeded with her next move.. I think you are right. Jalal was ready to enter her Khema but may be he got the news about Khyber so he stopped.

One more thing was that how come Atifaas husband agree to send Atifaa with Jalal and all other men. Any husband would have not left his wife alone ..Atifa was more than happy when Jalal asked her remove her purdah..


What an irony here Jalal is flirting with Atifa (at least on the face of it it looks so) and there Khyber is trying to flirt with Jodha.. Now Jalal declares death sentence for Khyber ...and what about himself.. he is also in the same position as Khyber.. flirting with a married lady..


So Jo will wonder and think about it this way.. but also I feel Jos extra sympathy for Khyber is not needed.Indeed any husband would be angry if a stranger walks into his room and touches his wife.. OMG... I think Atifa is also playing this dirty game as Maddy had already written that if Jalal will sleep with Atifa.. her so called husband will raise a debate in DEK and get Jalal framed and dethroned.. as he has committed a sin.. ..

But I hope Jalal will trap Atifa before all this.. Jalal -Atifa scenes are not what we want to watch.. Shairf-uddin kuch jyada hi Sharif ban gaya kal.. wah.. kya baat hai... its duty time for him.. kab se??

There will be more MU between Ja-JO because of Atgah's sons marriage proposal.. But Mansi...I feel terribly sorry for JO.. Whats her fault in this .. Since Jalal has hidden this Atifa matter from her.. she will be hurt no ends.. because of Jalal's behavior and his lying about the shikar .. as to why he did not take her.. He should have confided in her.. he is making a big mistake here because she will undergo such a mental trauma .. Upar se Jalal ki yelling .. scolding khaani padegi.. pathetic track.. We would love to see our teda Jalal back.. but .. he should have bothered about Jos condition and told her everything beforehand..Hes going to repent a big time for not telling her.. Ruks will try her best to instigate Jo ..

I am waiting for Ruks-MA exposure track..



Neesha a small correction - I did NOT write Jalal will spend the night with Atifa - rather I wrote Jalal will send her away to her khema and SHE WILL FALSELY ACCUSE JALAL, by taking advantage of the fact that everybody has seen Jalal and her spending time together, he paying her too much attention.

I do not think Jalal will spend night with her.
Even if her undressing scene continues and there is no interruption, I think Jalal will tell her she is beautiful or such stuff and then walk away.

Last line in bold - EVERYBODY IS! 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
#32
Few kostins...
1.If Jalal knows atifa is MahaC's agenda then why is necessary to pretend with her? Is atifa powerful than Jalal that to catch her he needs to act with her? Jalal can easily arrest atifa! Can't he!
2. Isn't so hard to believe without any dicussion with Atgha, jalal alone has made plan against Atifa?
3. Okay i m agreeing Jalal has huge tera plan but for establishing his tera plan why is he almost ignoring Jodha? Now many r saying jalal is hiding b/c jo is preggy. So, my question is if he is so caring abt jo's health then after meeting with atifa how many times ja has inquired abt jo's health n spent times with her! For catching atifa whats type of logic it is that he has no single time to inquire abt preggy wife n unborn babies? Did he not promise he wl ample take care of Jo at the time of jo's preggy.
4. Jalal is becoming angry with Jo near n there after atifa's entry. I understand Ja has alergy with Khy even i have no prblm with it. But why does he shout terribly with Jo for this issue despite knowing Jo is pregnant n she is grateful on khy b/c Khy saved her n babies? Can't Ja discuss with this matter calmly n cordially with Jo? He did huge pamper with ruq at the fake pregnancy time but now he went to ruq for complaining against Jo even for one time he didn't ask ruq abt how she is caring Jo, does Jo eat properly or not? Why!
5. Jalal said Jodha that if the wife isn't able to serve husband, she has no value! Unbelievable cheap dialogue... If Ja has plan against atifa, is it meant he wl have to misbehave with Jo like this?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: chitterati

Was waiting for your post, and yes you are bang on!!! After the initial horror of watching Jalal do the Atifa dance had subsided, I too came to the conclusion that Jalal is just playing on, I mean this is the guy who had the decency to turn his face away when he accidentally caught jo undressing... Some one who had so much self control that he did not even touch his wife, will suddenly be all over someone else's wife !

It is possible, that initially he was attracted to her, but then on thinking further he could see through Atifa's plans.

And that Atifa female was all to happy to do a back flash, if she is as satayi hui as she claims to be, then Itna jaldi she has forgotten about her possessive, short tempered husband

Regarding precap and Jo JA jhagda...arz kiya hai

Woh kabhi humse Khafa naa ho,
Yeh zaroori toh nahin,
Har Khwab jo pura gar na ho,
Neend adhoori toh nahin

Ab toh Milne, bichdne ki aadat ho chali hai hamein
Faasle chand Lamho ke hain, zindagi bhar ki doori toh nahin.

Oooh! I don't really understand such high-flown Hindi and Urdu and all, but your shayari was understandable even by a dolt like me ... and it was very apt!👏👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Hi ,

Mansi very good write up.
Well in the scene of Jajo ,during the dailogue, where he says that he wants to be a good husband,this dailogue only tells us that he wanted to protect Jo from some danger which is known only to him now.
Also when she was looking at the painting of Atifa,he did not have a look on his face that he was "caught."
Again when she left ,he just coolly looked at aatifa's painting with no admiration in his eyes for her painting.
Also during the Shikar scene,Jalal told Aatifa that she is " safe with Mughal soldiers around" .Was it a warning he was giving to her? And also I don't think a married lady with a abusive husband would come alone for hunting even if Shehenshah was calling.She would have given an excuse .But Atifa did come ,this shows her motive.
Also she said that she wants to do more Shikar and she feels bored inside Kheema.The exp by Jalal were awesome as if he had caught her there.
In the Machan scene , we can see he just holded her but there was no love or lust while holding her,And when he said that she has not seen Jallaludin doing Shikar, these words had a warning to her that messing with him is not easy and it will have dire consequences.
When he told her that point any animal far away ,I can kill it.This had a meaning that he can see far fetched things.
If he had really fallen in love with Atifa ,he would have never felt guilty of neglecting Jo.But the dailogue with Atgah showed that he had guilt of not telling things to Jo and leaving her alone.
Also the undressing scene was a cheap tactics of Atifa but look at Jalal's exp and his smile as if he was laughing at her foolishness.Which sane lady will openly undress in a tent with thin curtains and that too in front of mirror.Look at the position of mirror,from that I am sure ,Atifa could see Jalal staring at her,
So we did get many clues that TE is upto something.

Yes Rashmi you have found so many more clues than I could find! See, there are so many little things that point to TE being up to something for sure!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: akdhalover

M waiting to praise jalal all over again!😃

But just now another thought struck me was it right for jo To defend khyber ??
In a way yes and in a way no
Yes as he was the one who saved her and her kids from mahaC and for a mother nothing is more important than her kid's life
And khYber did that so naturaly she will have some sort of respect for that person
But as chetterati beautifuly said in ela's thread entering harem is crime its wrong for someone to do that!
But khyber isnt aware of such rules and stuff so will it be right to punish him???
M realy confused
I want to knOw yOur take on this!

I hope at the end of all this supporting of Khyber, this Jodha goes and ties Raakhi for Khyber so that both Jalal and Khyber understand the exact nature of her feelings for Khyber!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi,

Thanks for your SMS update as well as this. I really don't know till how long Hathway doesn't solve the issues with Zee channels and till such time I will be solely dependent on your updates only.
Since I can't say anything about Jalal's expressions and there by the hidden meanings in his words and action without watching him, all I can say is that if you are in love with your partner, the please don't take them for granted and neglect their wishes for someone else. I ma telling this not just because of Jalal's behavior but also about Jodha's.
If Jalal was telling her to stay away from Kyber, she needs to have followed it as there are so many things we ladies miss which were observed by men. Because men knows better about another man's intentions by gauging his expressions / eyeball movements which we will not even be able to recognize. While Sharif could make out Kyber's emotions towards Jodha, she fails to recognize that and thinks concerned for his welfare. Her over protectiveness of Kyber may cost her dearly as I had seen in a Tamil movie (I have forgotten its name) where the heroine will take care of a small boy as her own brother or more like her son, ever since he loses his mother but that guy will grow so much of possessive nature on her that when she married someone else, he tries to kill her husband to get her for himself. I hope things doesn't go that far for Jodha.
However, I think with the news Surang from Jail to harem, looks like Chand Begum's talash will come to an end and the surang might end to the exact room where Maham has kept Chand Begum. With all the sudden komotion, Maham may not be able to shift CB from the hideout and she may come to light suddenly which will change the scenario and attention might shift to CB and meanwhile, Ruqu may have already tried her trick on Jodha while Jalal was away at jungle on Shikar trip as she may not get another chance to harm Jodha in Jalal's presence. This would have been witnessed by Maham and we can expect both of them get exposed mutually in the DEK.
Somehow I feel Jodha might use her wish to save Ruqu than Kyber as if Jalal comes to know that Ruqu had tried to kill Jodha and his kids, will he allow Ruqu to live? he may declare death sentence to her which might be nullified by Jodha's wish and there by Ruqu will live alone in the palace , away from her near and dear ones.

Jaya, I completely agree with your point that "all I can say is that if you are in love with your partner, the please don't take them for granted and neglect their wishes for someone else. I ma telling this not just because of Jalal's behavior but also about Jodha's." That is brilliant because both are taking each other majorly for granted! let it be any twist of teda Jalal etc but still I thought love was about sharing everything with your partner. here both are acting as if the other one should be the last person they should explain things to.
Also I totally agree with your prediction that maybe the surang will lead to Chand begum. Hehehe ... njust think of this! If Chand suddenly see this gigantic and monstrous Khyber her madness will clear up in a shot!😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi!! Awesome analysis and balanced review, pleasure reading it.. 🤗
Reading ur reviews looks great than watching actual episode.. I couldn't watch yesterday episode but morning catched it.. 😊
I can't control my frustration watching Jalal n atifa scenes.. One scene I loved Jalal n Atgha scene.. And doesn't even dared to share his proper thoughts.. I loved him as a perfect atalik.. JO had a horrible dream about atifa effect on jalal.. Now she too got some alarm about this new scenario.. Even though if this was manipulative side to play in his own tricks, I couldn't find his tedapan interesting but a heartwrenching way.. Why he couldn't share his plan to atgha? Why he insulted Tansen is that was also his tedapan? All these things seems to a unbearable tedapan from his side..or this shows his one man acing up alone in taking out circumstances without harming anyone specially jo.. Then I am waiting for some more tricks in rukayya case too.. But cv's need some tragedic involvement in their writing.. Hoping for some positive growth in further episodes.. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: ashpat

I have said in my past couple of posts that I still have faith in my Akdha and their love. Now, we just have to see if this is Tedha Jalal or Jalal under spell or what. It would be better to Tedha Jalal coming out this trap and shine through.

I had managed somehow to watch last week's episodes because I wanted to see observe Jalal, jodha, rUq and atifa's equations and their expression to decipher but I could not bring myself to watch today's episode. May be I will watch later or after this gets over.

More than this track, what is worrying me constantly is 15 years leap. I DO NOT want salim-anarkali track. I just want to see PariJat as Akdha and that's all I care about. I do not mind seeing salim but only until he is rahim's age (currently shown in serial). when u said the leap is confirmed from a credible source is making me restless; i hope that leap is 9-10 month not 15 years leap.

I think the 15 year leap is sure but Jo-Ja will continue to be the leads of the story and Salim-Anarkali may start but they will only be secondary leads!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Dear Mansi,

I keep wondering how you come up with so much positivity in spite of the most disgusting episodes. But this time Mansi.. I agree with you and Diksha that Jalal is really playing along.. I hope so.. but I could not understand one thing here..what was the need to lie to Atgah? Was it just that he thought that there is someone eavesdropping from behind the curtains.. May be..
When the Creatives try to make a suspense they keep everyone in suspense ... not just the audiences but poot Atga also!

But Lo.. he insulted Tansen also.. Tansen should really walk out of Agra .. what an insult to such a great singer.. it was terrible to watch.. Atifaa's strip tease was more than pukeworthy.. it seemed that she had purposely kept the mirror in such a position where she was able to see Jalal but Jalal wont be able to see her..So she knew the exact moment when Jalal was watching her and then proceeded with her next move.. I think you are right. Jalal was ready to enter her Khema but may be he got the news about Khyber so he stopped.

One more thing was that how come Atifaas husband agree to send Atifaa with Jalal and all other men. Any husband would have not left his wife alone ..Atifa was more than happy when Jalal asked her remove her purdah..
I think even that Atifa's husbnd's temer is an act. Maybe both husband and wife are drama acting to make Jalal very sympathetic and protective of Atifa as part of their chaal!


What an irony here Jalal is flirting with Atifa (at least on the face of it it looks so) and there Khyber is trying to flirt with Jodha.. Now Jalal declares death sentence for Khyber ...and what about himself.. he is also in the same position as Khyber.. flirting with a married lady..


So Jo will wonder and think about it this way.. but also I feel Jos extra sympathy for Khyber is not needed.Indeed any husband would be angry if a stranger walks into his room and touches his wife.. OMG... I think Atifa is also playing this dirty game as Maddy had already written that if Jalal will sleep with Atifa.. her so called husband will raise a debate in DEK and get Jalal framed and dethroned.. as he has committed a sin.. ..

Jodha is also overding this Khyber sympathy! Sigh ... I have had enough!

But I hope Jalal will trap Atifa before all this.. Jalal -Atifa scenes are not what we want to watch.. Shairf-uddin kuch jyada hi Sharif ban gaya kal.. wah.. kya baat hai... its duty time for him.. kab se??

There will be more MU between Ja-JO because of Atgah's sons marriage proposal.. But Mansi...I feel terribly sorry for JO.. Whats her fault in this .. Since Jalal has hidden this Atifa matter from her.. she will be hurt no ends.. because of Jalal's behavior and his lying about the shikar .. as to why he did not take her.. He should have confided in her.. he is making a big mistake here because she will undergo such a mental trauma .. Upar se Jalal ki yelling .. scolding khaani padegi.. pathetic track.. We would love to see our teda Jalal back.. but .. he should have bothered about Jos condition and told her everything beforehand..Hes going to repent a big time for not telling her.. Ruks will try her best to instigate Jo ..
Regarding Atga son's marriage I have some feeling that Jalal may actually convince the girl to be open to all religions. I think it won't be an MU it will be an opportunity for Jo-Ja to reiterate this religious harmony idea!

I am waiting for Ruks-MA exposure track..
From when I am saying I am ready to do nanga naach if Ruq is exposed!😲😲😲

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Posted: 11 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: selvi1275

Hi Mansi...

After seeing the title of this post, I clearly went ahead set to enjoy this as much as possible...and I've done till the point I have read...

I was ready for technicolor vomit myself, folks, I don't know how I lived through it all.

I was laughing all the way, but this line had me. 🤣

Hehehe ... can't believe I wrote that!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

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