love/lust and faulty display of characterization! - Page 4

Originally posted by: mandyg

i agree rima and thanks😊..lust is a relative term..here i see him thinking and worrying about her and admiring her hunar at the same time..lust is more to do with sickness of mind i believe!

Originally posted by: adianasr

<font size="3">Bang on Mandy - EK's major faux pas has been in trying to make a show on Akbar to be heroine centric - infact she could have still done that had she made the heroine as the muse for the male protagonist - Akbar is a persona too 'vishal' to be boxed into EK's usual pitara of her heroes - and becoz she wanted to do that she ended up creating a hollow shell of a show since the Tasneem track, which is currently being lugged on the shoulders of the actors like the proverbial corpse on the shoulder of Vikramaditya.</font>

<font size="3">Infact this show had that rarest of opportunities for EK to break out of her mold and create fresh benchmarks - she had the opportunity to explore man-woman relations from umpteen perspectives - present one of the most mature love sagas within a polygamous set-up where each wife had the opportunity of being the strength behind her man while one managed to touch his soul and become the beloved by becoming the lover and making him her beloved - oh for such a tale - what I would have given to watch it!!!! - and to top it all she had the actors who have the ability to deliver all this and more!!!!! - To have had it all and thrown it all away - that is EK - infact I will (mis)quote Shakespeare here - Shortsightedness, they name is EK !!!!!!!!</font>

Originally posted by: chitterati

Very well written, tracks like these make you wonder, if the CVS and Ph have any vision at all for this show, I mean it seems like they have only 2 weeks of storyline, rest gets written as the show moves along. Look at the TM Mahaepisode - if they have to show nari shakti, they could have instead shown harem war, at least that would have been apt. Someone Being falsely accused of rape is not any shakti...

They seem to have no clue how show maturity of Jo and Jalal both as a husband wife and in their own right. Instead of showing Jalal working on strength thing of his army after the war fiasco, they show him doing Jashns... Instead of attacking MCB and Kabul gang, they show him trying to paint pictures.

If they had to show a non political track, why not show sharif acting on his desire for Jo, rather than this stupid Atifa angle...

Akbar was a talented man, why not focus on those...of all the things to showcase about him, they had to choose polygamy.

Originally posted by: elasingh

Mandy I agree with you that they should have not shown Jo fighting the war and Jallu being captive...I also agree that kingliness of Jallu should be maintained...but it is wrong to think that Jalal have licene to flirt other women just because Jo is pregnant...Of course Jalal may visit his concubines and all becoz he has certain physical needs...but even in those days relationship with the beloved queen was different then the others...Surely Jallu can not put Ruk and SB at par with Jodha...

In history to study a king's reign architecture built by him is studied very importantly...Architecture tells about a kings personality, his likes and dislikes a lot...and Sikari's architecture and Agra's architecture says it all Jodha and Jallu...

Relationships and human emotions were same in 16th century and 21st century...Jallu was human too and he didnot love all his queens equally and neither did all his queens loved him equally...It is only Jodha who choose to be buried next to him , within less then half KMs away from him...

typing from mobile, so will be brief...

Originally posted by: rpeez

Mandy,

Couldn't agree more.

It's difficult to judge those people by our standards, this after I read an article on increasing practice of polyamoury in West of late.

In 16th century polygamous setting, the boundaries of love and lust would be fluid, what with power playing a major role in relationships.

But what can I say, 21st century TV seems to be more of SBS shows with all characters either white or black, nothing else. 😭

Originally posted by: smile.sara

Mandy meri yaar ... These days i m very busy...in free time I m writing my story...which gives me peace ... This is other thing ... I don't have readers 😆... Koi comment nhi karta 😭😆...

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I m doing c/p my post here ... Which was very much related to yours one ...

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I didn't get why so much hoopla... Jalal has full harem... This was the blunder of cvs to show him poodle on jodha ... His style with jodha is not even compare able with today husband ... It's like he can't think feel enjoy live breath beyond jodha... This doesn't represent love ... This represent mad obsession

I m not thinking with 21st century mind set... If we think with not only 16 th century Mughal royal aristocratic family but harem of none other than emperor ... What really Happened?

... Love ,... With wife(s) and relation with other other wife's and concubines was totally different things... Women at tht bother about love , which didn't give them absolute control on their hubby ... It gave them, position, power security and luxury to spend more time with emperor and easy excess to him...

... I m hating it since suja track... I have no heart broken feeling with this Jalal... This was not uncommon... Unrealistic was Akbar captured and handful ladies of his harem won whole war , disgusting was the emperor who can't go out side palace with his chief wife for security reason asked by his beloved wife... Running after same beloved and pretending his death like beggars...

Disgusting was Mughal empress and princess by birth showed stoop so low to pretend her FP and pardoned due to another wife...and ... Disgusting was one of nine gens none other than todder mal accused adultery and...

.. After becoming Akbar ... They showed him ... Most stupid and weak creature on earth ... Which was not definitely Mughal emperor Akbar... But some idiot BMC... So why so much hoopla on the man attracting towards a woman ... This same man has 5000 women at age of 18 ... I m not saying ... He himself told to his jodha begum...

When ruku pregnant... He didn't know she is pretending...what he was doing ! Asking forgiveness to his beloved For spending time with his first wife And spending time with her beloved .. He is love with jodha ... But not with ruku nor ruku loves her ... If we expect from ruku to give him space... And should not run after him ... To whome he is spending night... Why not this demand with jodha...

At that time queens knew where they stands... Ruku or jodha both are save ... If Jalal will fall in love with atifa it means same For jodha what was for ruku ... Her power her importance her status will remain safe what will change the quality of time with emperor... And if he doesn't fall ... He will come back ... But this is not grace of queen to become worry due to mere singer ...

I know this looks disgusting ... But this is the terrible truth of that time ... Every princess and chief queen faced this ...they were the queens. But There king husbans didn't wear collar of their love in their necks ...tht the same this Jalal looks in this ... Always running after her like puppy...praising her like slave

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This is not the worst ... Worst insult of Akbar is done long back in suja track and carry on till date ... This is just different flavor ... Some black cofee after ... Supper sweet taste less candy