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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dear Mansi,
Congrats for this optimistic attitude of yours of which I a a die hard fan. Your optimism gives us hope that there is still light at the end of the tunnel and we cling to this theory of yours like a last straw to survive in the turbulent waters.

Mansi, yes after seeing Jalal's concern for Atifa initially I also felt it was lust or attraction but later on I felt may be he is just being protective..he is definitely intrigued by her but may be he himself fails to understand why he is so protective for her??

Yes and the portrait does seem like Chand begums colored version so who is this Atifaa ?? If we believe that this may be reverse Sujamal track..then is Atifaa Chand begums real daughter?? or as many predicted that she may be some lost cousin of Jalal??who spend their childhood together..

But it is ridiculous that Jalal wants to take her along for his hunting trip..that too at night.. Yes definitely these things will go against him that he is taking a married woman along with him.. Thank God Tansen is also going along.. But whatever said and done Jalal was looking totally indifferent towards Jodha yesterday.. It at least looked like he has already started cheating on Jodha by not telling her about the hunting trip and not wanting her company ..Whats more now he spends his nights at Ruks Hojra..Wow..

Though at the end, Mansi ..this track may be something like SUjamal track.. but the whole track will be very torturous to watch.. with a big Mis understanding between both and lots of bitter exchanges.. Ruks will be thereto take advantage and instigate Jalal against Jodha..

Even I doubted that Ruks had added something in the drink as everyone in the forum has already guessed. I am not worried about Khyber as I am sure he will not harm JO in any way.. but this incident will surely get Jalal boiling and then he declares death sentence for him..

When Ela spoke to Zee man he said that Atifa is a negative character but till yesterday she did not seem like negative. She just seems like any "Husband ki satayi hui aurat"

Mansi.. I am worried about the paigaam as well. Now what will Jodha reply .. ?? I am worried about these paigaams as these always create Misunderstandings . I really hope MA or Ruks do not play dirty here and change the reply that Jo has written and then hand it over to Jalal.. ..I hope and pray that CVS dont go overboard and show a long separation between JJ again and that too when Jo is pregnant...Another info that Zee man gave me..
I did not write yesterday that I had called Zee as well but he repeated everything he told you but only one additional info that the track will be of three weeks .. I also told him that you showed everyone pampering Ruks during her fake Pregnancy and on the other hand Jodha is shown only being yelled at .. by jalal and HB .. why so.. I asked him do the CVS love Rukaiya more , so he started laughing and said he will convey my message.. But kept saying this is not a love track.. believe me.. but did not disclose anything further.. so this coming week will be highly melodramatic..
Edited by neeshaa16 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi, what to say. I am in a dilemma. On one side watching jalal looking at atifa with such tenderness n fascination is sickening and the fact that he seems to have forgotten abt jodha and is not only uncomfortable in her presence but i also feel like he is no longer excited or happy to see her. It makes me feel like he genuinely can't help being attracted to atifa which will end up separating them but at the same time yesterday's episode left a wierd feeling like it is too much too fast. Either the cvs r rushing to finish the track or there is smthg going on with jalal which is not lust but smthg underhanded.
The theories i have r either that since cvs are reaching a stagnant point in ther relationship they want to show them distancing fom each other n separating so that they can show the whole falling in love again process in the show n the only way to separate them is by bringing some else in middle hence atifa
Or another theory could be that jalal is doing smthg else on the pretence of falling for atifa. What, how or y we don't know.
God! My brain is a mush right now. One moment i m happy next sad. I just hope its the 2 theory or evn if they do reconcile the scars will remain on jodha's heart.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi Beautiful analysis..though I hv not seen the episode but after reading LU I almost had tears in my years feeling jo's pain.. and seeing jalal's behaviour ..but later on I questioned my self wat happened in one night that everything changed in thr lifes... is he the same jalal..and started recollecting all incidents and discussed with her...more than me she had many doubts like me..many questions like me but left with no answers..so today I am not giving on my take what happened exactly y it happened..dont no..but just wanted to rethink about wat happened and trying to connect all loop holes

Friends its something fishy.. daal main kuch kaala nahi..bohot kuch kaala hai..par kya hai.ye kisi ko nahi pata.. for the time being lets forget for sometime y jalal was behaving like this..and y jo is concerned about kyber...

Theory one:

Lets not believe zee..for some zee said jalal lusts atifa..for many of us he said no love story nor lust story.. and it il end soon..but I feel this track is not a short one..infact just like bens track which il go atleast min 30 to 45 days..

Bens Case

Atifa's track

Fight started with dhakka scene

Fight started with jo s concern towards khyber

Ben entry-she is a dancer from kabul

Atifa entry-singer from kabul

Jallu used ben to make jo jealous

Here he is shown lusting -may be a victim or acting to save jo and his babies

Shivani marriage with hakim-she doesn't want to get married to hakim

Rajvanshi princess marriage with atga son- princess not interested in getting married to mughals

Jo was not aware of jalal's intentions

Here jo knows about it-lets see wat step she il take

Rukku maham badkofied jalal

Rukku badkofying jalal and hb

Jo took poison to save him

This time only time will answer"who il save whom

Myself and Jiya were discussing whole night about this track and we identified the loopholes and tried to connect it

Rukkaiah

Remember the warning jalal given to rukku ...

She hates jo..and doesn't want rajvanshi princess to give birth to the heir.. she not only wanted to separate jolal but also wanted to prove that jo is not taking care of kids and her health..if tmw she plans something like MC also she can easily blame jo that due to her careless ness MC happened..remember she said on that day infront of mirror il not let u give birth to sultant heir.. il wont let u succeed...She was so evil at that time..acted all lovely infront of jalal..alone she showed her true face..

Everything started wen jolal are back to mad house after kidnapping track, after coming when jj r in their hojara n jodha first time saw babies movement n also jallu too feeled this but in that scene also we felt that time he didnot not show any excitement about this feel of his babies n we thought may be he was guilty that time thats why gave those expressions but if we see that scene again then we knw at that time also he was physically there with jodha but his mind was not with him may be ruq or atifa start their spell that night n effects of that spell we saw frm next morning

Next day was day 1 of ramzan holy month...next day morning Jalal for the first time said to Jo hume lagta hai hum apko teek se samaj nahi paye..sounds fishy...

Wen Jo went to Jail its rukku who got to no about it and instigated HB and later on jalal too joined and scolded Jo...sounds fishy...

Wen jo was having stomach pain..rukku said Jo was fasting and jalal scolded her and left the place..he never came back to her...not even worried about her health.sounds fishy..

Later on rukku came to HB and with food to break her ramzan fast and again instigated hb against jo..sounds fishy..wen did she started taking care of all these things... yesterday she managed to give him medicine thru drug..who knows may be she was doing all this from day one of ramzan holy month..kya pata food main mix kiya ho... wen ever rukku and jallu spends time she used to give jam..but this time she gave him some other drink..some thing very fishy..

Today also rukku gave some drink to jalal and gave evil smrik..sounds fishy..

Who knows since ramzan started she is taking care of this fast thing..and jalal's weird behaviour started from that morning..both ruklal were so uncomfortable till Jashan..all of sudden both started playing chess..and jalal started spending nights with rukku and complaining about Jo like bens track...-- ...now both are very comfortable and jallu not at all comfortable with jo.. he is not even looking at jo and into her eyes..he is avoiding seeing her.. something seems to be very fishy

either jalal wantedly doing this to save jodha from all dangers and with some plan behind this..if not rukku is plotting to separate jolal...this time she is playing games withd HB also..coz if jalal is not on jo's side next its HB who il not allow jo to be alone..so very carefully ek teer se do nishaan pe war kar rahi ho...

Jalal:

something is wrong..this is not the jallu we knew..he is not jodha's jallu...from the day one his eyes are set only on Jo... and that too now she is pregnant.. something is fishy..dont no what..daal main zaroor kuch kala hai... kuch to gad bad hai...

wen jo went to meet kyb how does jallu got to no the next min...
jalal ko kaisa pata chala..jo ko humesha se pamper karne wala aaj achanak se itna badakne kaise laga hai..even if its attraction towards atifa still jo is his heart beat...strange.. its a planned one.. jo ko paigam pohunch na..jallu waha ana sab kuch kaise exactly horaha hai..its not only planned by MC...some one from mad house ..two parties are playing thr games seperately & differently..

second come wat may jalal never ignored jodha in last 1.5yrs..
ek hi din main aisa kya hogaya ki wo jodha ko bhool hi gaya... he was fine even after the hamam scene...
uske baad kuch hua..kya hai kisi ko pata nahi..
today rukku gave some drink and given evil smrik..
after this atifa hamam scene he didnot visit jo once...
he is meeting atifa every now and then
wen her husband beats her how come next min this info passes to jallu before reaching atga..
now taking tansen and his student for hunting... strange..he went with rukku or Jo... again strange..

remember tat day jalal warned rukku before jashan.. after that kidnapping track... after that from next morning jalal is behaving all weird.. he tried to paint jo's pic..and he said i feel still hum dono ek dusre ko teek se samaj nahi paye..after that he met atifa in hamam.. how did she get entry to take bath in royal bath tub..who gave her permission..some one from harem close to jalal behind this only can do this... the look both exchanged in bath tub after that he is not even looking at Jo... mostly wen ever these two fights its always jalal goes to jo and then both il say sorry to each other..but this time he never went to meet her..instead he went to rukku's hojra and started complaining about jo like before.. and then went to meet atifa in mid night...touching married women and taking of her ghunghat and holding hands in public ... he is not the same jallu whom we no.. now planning to take tansen and his students for hunting means atifa ..not informing jo .. wen jo asks her giving lame reasons like pregnancy..not even looking into her eyes...seems fishy..he is not the same jalal who used to crave to spend atleast sometime with jodha...but now she is pregnant..but still he is behaving weired..lets agree that his love is not true love ..it was just only lust..and now he is after atifa..but is he the same jallu wen he got to no a bandhi got preg in the beginning of the show and was about to celebrate..but later on got to no that child was not his.. how he was craving to have kids of his own..maan te hain jodha se mohabbat nahi ...ab atifa pe man hai...par kya bache par bhi pyar nahi.. is he the same jalal who cried for kids and almost broken everytime.. isn't something fishy here..going for hunting wen jo is pregnant and her life is in danger..still this kyber is in jail still he is going for hunting..to puri daal hi kaala hai

Atifa and her husband:

This lady looks very dangerous... remember from day one her husband is scolding her y she is not covering her face with jallu..what if jalal recognize them...what if others recognizes them

Next scene he said don't u no who are u.. y u are not covering ur face..can we take it as a hint who ever looks at u il become ur puppet coz of magic or spell or hypnotism...may that's y he keeps on telling her to cover her face with gunghat..

Still she is not even bothered .. any married women il die in that generation if any male touches her apart from her husband..here she is happily allowing jalal to touch her hold her...admire her..both gets lost into each others eyes..

Wen her husband beats her how this info is reaching jalal before atga ..who knows that this minster and atifa are husband and wife in real..may be acting just to gain sympathy of jalal to kill him

Thru eyes they can hypnotize and make anyone dance according to thr tunes..who knows may be she has applied the same logic on jalal also..thats y he is behaving all weird.. in that case y he is acting normal with rukku...?? Only time ill answer..who is the mastermind behind this..cud be rukku or atifa or jalal or his enemies...

MC and abumali:

Now thr aim is not only to kill jalal but also to kill jo and her babies.. high chances that may be atifa cud be her agent..

Khayber

Two chances: thru kyber to kill jodha..but since he is not ready to kill ..plan b..to send kyber to jodhas room..either he il kidnap jo again and later on they plans to kill both kyber and jodha..if not kyber il get caught...and jallu il suspect jo and separation..in that case easy for them to kill both jalal and jodha individually..now they hav realized they cant kill the other coz both are each others strength..so divide and rule policy...alag karo phir maaro...ek teer se do nishaan..no jodha no jalal and his kids..

Since jallu is not in palace who il save jo if kyb kidnaps her.. what if kyb kidnap hi na kare bus vapas chala jaye..some one sees this may be rukku sees this and informs this to jalal and instigates him against jo..gusse main jalal gives saza e maut to kyb... jo il use her wish and saves kyb..this il irk jalal more..and separation ..rukku il again insult Jo uses this opportunity to separate jolal for ever... finally wen jo gets to no atfia is here to kill jallu and tries to save jalal and in the end may be kyb saves both jolal and sacrifices his life if not jallu il give him job and keeps him with him in palace..ek aur jo ki manju ki list palace main add hojayega...

Atga and jodha

Guess jodha this time she il tell jallu that the princess is not ready to marry her..par he wont listens to her so she may take atgas help..

Theory 2:

Jalal is not truly in love with jodha..just in love with the idea of being in love with jodha..thats y got easily attracted to atifa..and found his real soul mate..thats y always thinking about her..in that it's a tight slap to us loyal fans..better to shut everyting and watch something else and say bye bye to JA ...better jo to go back to amer as mad house people doesn't deserve her..

Friends.. i hvnot seen the epi..just LU,mansi update and talk with jiya's help I am able to give this take..i can never see my jodha in pain..so wont be watching it till this track ends... just waiting to see happy jodha..right now I don't want to comment anything on jalal till I gets clarity about his behaviour..if he is lusting jo then the end of love story...just hope for the best..fingers crossed..Happy weekend guys

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi i wrote Gem thread, pasting here.
, these days camera is going again & again Ruk. She handling all points, HB or Jalal.

Drink scene his expressons were Akward, Her words were, Jodha is not Going thats GOOD,

She has no problem for Anyone. Jodha is going to become MUZ, so Ruk Acceptions are Killing.

so is she Using Atifa for her benifit, jodha will go into depresson, & her pregnancey will Suffer, This way, Jalal will angery with Jodha. Gap will come.

Second MC, enemies wants to kill Jalal +jodha, So is Nigar +Maham both are included.

but Khyber will save Jodha.lets see. Or Ruk will use Khyber point, & he will punished, DEATH, & jodha will save using her Wish.

One doubt, Jalal goes to Ruk hozara, I not want to Loose realtions, is indicating,
Jalal knows this time, Ruk is cooking some, or he is showing, he nothing knows.

coming after sometime.



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Posted: 11 years ago
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fantastic analysis
i too feel that ruq gave him a drug
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Dear Mansi,

Congrats for this optimistic attitude of yours of which I a a die hard fan. Your optimism gives us hope that there is still light at the end of the tunnel and we cling to this theory of yours like a last straw to survive in the turbulent waters.

Mansi, yes after seeing Jalal's concern for Atifa initially I also felt it was lust or attraction but later on I felt may be he is just being protective..he is definitely intrigued by her but may be he himself fails to understand why he is so protective for her??

Yes and the portrait does seem like Chand begums colored version so who is this Atifaa ?? If we believe that this may be reverse Sujamal track..then is Atifaa Chand begums real daughter?? or as many predicted that she may be some lost cousin of Jalal??who spend their childhood together..

But it is ridiculous that Jalal wants to take her along for his hunting trip..that too at night.. Yes definitely these things will go against him that he is taking a married woman along with him.. Thank God Tansen is also going along.. But whatever said and done Jalal was looking totally indifferent towards Jodha yesterday.. It at least looked like he has already started cheating on Jodha by not telling her about the hunting trip and not wanting her company ..Whats more now he spends his nights at Ruks Hojra..Wow..

Though at the end, Mansi ..this track may be something like SUjamal track.. but the whole track will be very torturous to watch.. with a big Mis understanding between both and lots of bitter exchanges.. Ruks will be thereto take advantage and instigate Jalal against Jodha..

Even I doubted that Ruks had added something in the drink as everyone in the forum has already guessed. I am not worried about Khyber as I am sure he will not harm JO in any way.. but this incident will surely get Jalal boiling and then he declares death sentence for him..

When Ela spoke to Zee man he said that Atifa is a negative character but till yesterday she did not seem like negative. She just seems like any "Husband ki satayi hui aurat"

Mansi.. I am worried about the paigaam as well. Now what will Jodha reply .. ?? I am worried about these paigaams as these always create Misunderstandings . I really hope MA or Ruks do not play dirty here and change the reply that Jo has written and then hand it over to Jalal.. ..I hope and pray that CVS dont go overboard and show a long separation between JJ again and that too when Jo is pregnant...Another info that Zee man gave me..
I did not write yesterday that I had called Zee as well but he repeated everything he told you but only one additional info that the track will be of three weeks .. I also told him that you showed everyone pampering Ruks during her fake Pregnancy and on the other hand Jodha is shown only being yelled at .. by jalal and HB .. why so.. I asked him do the CVS love Rukaiya more , so he started laughing and said he will convey my message.. But kept saying this is not a love track.. believe me.. but did not disclose anything further.. so this coming week will be highly melodramatic..



3 MORE WEEKS???? Of this torture 😡🤢🤢🤢

Lines in bold OF COURSE CVs LOVE Ruk more, when she was FAKING it they treated lying cheating her like a fragile thing and Jodha is not just physically but emotionally tortured.

I wish there was someone in CVs team WHO LOVED JODHA AND JALAL characters NOT Ruk and MA!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hatts of your positivity mansi and this is the quality of your that i am always eagerly wating for your post and also loved your green part.
But what do i do mansi day by day my belief on jalal is decreasing.but i also agree with your word that the way he is looking on atifa it was not those look the way he used to see jodha. But i also cannot ignore yesterday episode his behaviour with jodha in jail he was quite rude. The dialouge he said to jodha it was disgusting. Some day before she was his most lovely begum and now he said that she is not keeping him happy. What conclusion i took out from this? And now he is avoiding jodha . He did not tell jodha about his hunting. He do not want take out with him. And in the last part jodha conversation with jalal was so innocent . I felt bad for her. I donot know when she will come to know about jalal attraction towards atifa what will she feel. And your theory about ruk she has some plan in her mind i am sure about that and also these days jalal is spending lots of time with ruk. Something is fishy here. Suddenly how come jalal is so comfortable with ruk which is missing in with jodha. Either he know if ruk come to know about jalal attraction she will not have any problem because she used of these thing and if jodha come to know about this she wii be hurt or she will become angry on him or ruk is playing some plan.
Precap was scary i donot want jodha come to any underscanner. I cannot see her any pain.
Mansi my heartful wish is your positivity win and your theory about jalal come true because still i did not cry but in the end if jalal is really attracted or lust towards atifa its come true i will surely cry because my belief on jalal will be die and i will understand that jalal was always fascinated with the idea of being love. After than maybe i will never believe in their love story in this show.
Please please mansi pray god your theory comes true because god always listen to you.
Edited by ---jais--- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Sush116--

Well Mansi!!!!Yday night.Gem has opened a investigation thread...where the members are trying to investigate this track!!! U can check that thread!!!!!There is almost the same conclusion just like ur post!!!! That there must be some drug in that juice...

How interesting that many are thinking along the same lines!!!😃
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Originally posted by: Rutuja...

yaaa m agree. .

something is going in his mind..

m not at all interested what it is.. but still I've hope..

Hope we get an inkling of what is on Jalal's mind in the Sunday promo!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chiona

OMG MANSI, thats exactly what i was saying that this woman looks exactly like chand begum especially when i saw the painting. i truly believe that this woman is the real daughter of chand begum and nigar isnt and that this has to be the reason they will have allowed jalal to touch her the way he has maybe because it his is true sister and the draw he is feeling towards her is that of a familial one maybe that why he appears to be so concerned and maybe her husband knows this and wants to hide it until they can capitalize on it at the most opportune moment.

we'll have to wait and see
NICE POST!

Great possibility Chiona. Let's see if that is how things turn out!😃

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