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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: impiya

Hi Radhika,
Thanks for the PM. BTW you PM me or not if I log in and see ur post I'll surely read it. Now a days I am not visiting IF frequently as my exams are going on. I hope by the time my exams are over, this horrible track will also reach to its climax, and the Gorilla man will return to his cave and won't be roaming around Agra palace. Hopefully we will get an enjoyable track from next week. Am I asking for too much?
Regarding your post, it is beautiful as usual. Hat's off to you for your attempt of spreading some positivity in an otherwise dejected forum. I wonder what would have been the fate of the serial if fans like you and SindhuMenon (I read Reshmi's post on her last night, could not reply) weren't there, who stick by it no matter how miserable the tracks are. I am very annoyed with the way things are shaping up in the serial right now. I do not have much problem with the tracks but with its execution. Ekta's Cvs are doing their job in the worst way possible. I can't help but vent out my anger here. I don't watch many serials so can't compare the makers of the show with others but seriously I want to know, is this how Ekta runs her shows? The show could have been so so much better, if a little attention was given to it. Ekta doesn't have the budget to show a decent war sequence but new characters are entering the show almost every week. Do they work for free? Last week many of our forum members called up Zee and they were told that jalal had secret plan and was not actually captive by AM and Co. They were assured that there was a twist in the tale and everyone was waiting for it. How disappointing it was to find out that jalal actually never had any plan. Why do these people give us wrong information? If they don't know they simply can tell us that.
I agree with you that Jalal is going through a transitional phase in his life and any normal human being would be confused and indecisive during this. I think the real Jalaluddin Mohd. Akbar himself must have done many mistakes when he started ruling independently, first he was all about his head and now he has discovered his heart too, so the poor boy is trying his best to strike a balance between the two. We should give him some time.
Next week onwards I'll be regular in the forum and I hope by then, I'll have plenty of good things to talk about. Thank you once again for the beautiful post.


Piya,

So you are also a student! All the best for your exams! 👍🏼

Thanks for liking the post. I also feel the real Akbar might have made a few mistakes early in his life and learnt from them before becoming the great emperor. After all, he was also a human being. 😊

Another thing to note is that Akbar was able to be the great emperor because of the team he had in hand. A king is only as good as his ministers. Most of the reforms we associate with him were thought and implemented by his navratnas. He was a shrewd strategist, a wily politician and a braveheart warrior with exemplary vision who supported the right people at the right time to rise to dizzying heights.

No one can achieve anything on their own, no matter how blessed they might be. Right now, Jalal is still forming his team. TM and MS are coming into their own. Rahim is still a child. Let's wait for some time for his team to be in place. In the meanwhile, he will also grow in experience and wisdom and make less mistakes.😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786

Radhika wonderful post..

I loved Jodha character and started watching JA & soon found Jalaal much interesting character which he truely transformed a lot after JO came to his life..

Jalaal really is impulsive,in Ruku preg he put Jo in najar khaid to torture her, as he believed the evidence, with Bakshi he closed their relationship, MA he got the proofs, so he cut off.. But with TM even though he has proofs he believed TM is innocent, where as he never believed neither Jo, nor Bakshi, nor MA innocent & gave verdict..

It's like Jalaal gave verdit what he believed the right, with JO also he believed JO actually killed their baby, while he got proves against Bakshi & MA.. It looks real Jalaal, but in TM he has to gave verdict against his will, only for the sake of evidences..

Jalaal really knows that evidences can be misplaced, why he didn't go for his instincts.. CVS were wrong to be blamed for butchering his character, just like they bunched Jo character in sujamal case..

I don't have any problem with war track, infact i enjoyed seeing Jo & Ruku together fighting against AM what I didn't like is CVS declared war is finished ... I just expected Jalaal go for a war with ameer guys & mansingh & so some sword fight and return with VICTORY where AM & Shenu both escape loosing a war would have been better..

I don't feel there is a need to show BOOGIE MAN, if CVs just showed little bit of Jalaal fighting ( mend fight) just one episode full and announce the VICTORY would make the audience much more happy..

I am not liking Jo kidnap track, even though Jallu may save her, but kidnap, torturing a pregnant women a queen is not a right track.. I feel so sorry to see JO has to bear & go through all this even in this condition..


Abhi,

Thanks for posting!

I just lost my entire reply and now writing again! (I really hate this!)

A judge has no personal feelings. What he feels about the accused is immaterial. He cannot go by his instincts. It is ethically wrong. A judge has to rely solely on the evidence and arguments presented by the prosecution and defence. This was true then and it is true now.

Personally I feel the PH is running the show on a shoestring budget. They didn't have the budget for the war. So Jalal was captured right at the start and released only in the end.

Jalal can be made to fight the ape man on a low budget because probably the ape man is just a junior artiste who doesn't have to be paid much. And there is no need for hundreds of soldiers, horses, elephants, weapons etc.

Jodha's treatment too is based on TRPs, just like Jalal's. A section of audience likes women crying and suffering. This is why tearjerkers are such a hit in movies too.

Personally I also don't like a pregnant woman being shown to be tortured or kidnapped. It sends the wrong message about the treatment of women. 😕

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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ RADHIKA
I am not exactly a student now as I have completed my studies last year, but unfortunately exams are still very much part of my life😭
So true. I also believe that most people at least once in their life do something which is completely against their nature. Jalal was an able warrior, a shrewd strategist all through his life so even if he had made few mistakes in the beginning, he won't be judged by those mistakes alone. He was extremely lucky to have people like TM, Maan Singh, Bhagwan Das, Birbal around.

In our 10th standard history book, I remember reading something like this.. The strongest pillars of Mughal empire were the Rajputs, without their loyalty and cooperation, Akbar could never manage to build such a vast empire and rule it efficiently. So much importance has been given to his team even historically. Akbar was no God. In fact Aurangzeb was also a very shrewd politician- a very able administrator- almost as good as Akbar in many ways- but he did not have the support of a great team like Akbar had,so he could not come even close to what Akbar achieved as an emperor. There were many discussions on AZ's religious intolerance and all- I am not going there.
It's very exciting to know different sides of the great emperor- the more human side- his shortcomings, weaknesses and the way he overcame it. Does the character Nigar also mentioned in history? I am very curious to know. I really miss historygeek posts - he could give us some gyaan on this.
The makers did research a lot. I must give them credit 4 it even though I am hating them now -a days. 😉

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: impiya

@ RADHIKA

I am not exactly a student now as I have completed my studies last year, but unfortunately exams are still very much part of my life😭
So true. I also believe that most people at least once in their life do something which is completely against their nature. Jalal was an able warrior, a shrewd strategist all through his life so even if he had made few mistakes in the beginning, he won't be judged by those mistakes alone. He was extremely lucky to have people like TM, Maan Singh, Bhagwan Das, Birbal around.

In our 10th standard history book, I remember reading something like this.. The strongest pillars of Mughal empire were the Rajputs, without their loyalty and cooperation, Akbar could never manage to build such a vast empire and rule it efficiently. So much importance has been given to his team even historically. Akbar was no God. In fact Aurangzeb was also a very shrewd politician- a very able administrator- almost as good as Akbar in many ways- but he did not have the support of a great team like Akbar had,so he could not come even close to what Akbar achieved as an emperor. There were many discussions on AZ's religious intolerance and all- I am not going there.
It's very exciting to know different sides of the great emperor- the more human side- his shortcomings, weaknesses and the way he overcame it. Does the character Nigar also mentioned in history? I am very curious to know. I really miss historygeek posts - he could give us some gyaan on this.
The makers did research a lot. I must give them credit 4 it even though I am hating them now -a days. 😉


Piya:

Yes, the Rajputs helped Akbar a lot in consolidating and expanding his empire as well as protecting it. In fact, Akbar was closer to Amerians than to his own close associates, as the latter were always plotting and planning to do away with him and seize his throne.

I generally do not discuss characters other than the ones shown in the serial. But since you have mentioned Aurangzeb, I will say one thing.

Akbar was a visionary, highly liberal and tolerant of differences. He thought way ahead of his times, whether it be banning sati, abolishing child marriage, enforcing consent of bride and groom before marriage or land reforms etc. He recognized talent and loyalty and rewarded it. He had the aura to take the people with him in whatever he implemented. He steered his team with his vision and his team provided him with the inputs to forge ahead further. It was a mutually benefiting arrangement.

Aurangzeb was more narrow-minded and short-sighted. He may have been a good administrator but he couldn't think beyond the short term. For instance, he closed libraries in his reign. This may have helped him in the short term but was highly detrimental to the upkeep of Mughal records. Even if he had the navratnas of Akbar, I doubt he would have given them the freedom to enforce policies as they thought fit.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rak014

Hey Radhika!! Great write up!!👏

When we had given up hopes saying, we should stop relating ekta's Jalal with the real one, you brought us a ray of hope!😃
Yea, Jalal is new to emotions and love! We should give his some time!😊 You have rightly defended Jalal's,the so called weak behaviour,in all the tracks!👍🏼
Keep writing frequently! Its a treat to read your posts!🤗


Hi Rakshitha,

I am not defending his portrayal. I am just saying that let's wait and see. He is young and learning. Maybe sooner than later, we will see a Jalal who is strong, wise, teda and pasionate.😊

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