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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Akanksha_33


No Mansi, I don't think so! They'll Show RuqMa only! but they'll just add this scene on Friday! it seems like it's Shehnaaz dream only or She'll miss the target, because 100% no one will get hurt.

Hope so, Akanksha!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice take!
Yes Ruqu's tantrums were infuriating and so was the way she is playing with Ja's emotions...not to mention Jo and Ja going the xtra length for her and reassuring her..
But then, if Jodha or for that matter Jalaal behave otherwise, it wouldn't be true to their character.
Jodha being an unassuming and good soul went above and beyond to reassure Ruqqu.
And Jalaal does care for his friend and wanted to set the record right.
Anycase Ruqqu is digging the grave so deep there is no escape...So matter of time...
She is realizing...her deeds are only bringing Jo-Ja further closer...
Edited by prejudiced - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi!
Love reading ur analysis everyday. How's ur back now? Btw what's ur name? Seems wierd calling u skanda.
I agree that jalal should in clear words tell ruqqaiya that he loves jodha, till now ruqqaiya has heard it from everyone except jalal. I can feel for him as he wants the best for his child after waiting so long for it n he also knows that ruqqaiya is volatile n childish so he is not sure of her actions. I guess somewhere down the line he has started to see this coming child more as his and jodha's.
I did like the fact that he praised jodha in front of ruqqaiya but I didn't like that he was ready to send jodha to her in her room. Wasn't jodha hurt too n tired after a long n dangerous outing or is she supposed to be on beck n call of BEK all the time? I wish he had told her to let jodha rest n call someone else.
Loved the prayer scene. Till now jalal made the effort to know her customs now she is doing the same n in a way showing him that she is ready to accept him with all his traditions n customs n ways of doing things. It somehow felt more close than a hug. I also loved the fact that when he self deprecated by calling himself an illiterate she was quick to come to his defence by saying that he was more knowledgeable than the learned ones. Also ths act of her asking him to be her guru showed her respect for him which he needs as I feel he somehow feels insecure coz of his inability to read or write.
Edited by vinitaj27 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Akanksha, That's exactly what I am saying. Yesterday I was myself surprised that I was better able to tolerate Ruq's bad behaviour but I was feeling more disturbed by the body language of Jalal and Jodha, and especially Jalal!


Jalal is going to pay katra katra for this! all thanks to Ruqaiyya and not telling her when she was wrong and always hiding her mistakes! I'm glad he needs this lesson! Bohot ho gaya! 🥱
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mnasi, great analysis of the scene between JJ & Ruq. But you must be really agitated as is evident from your post today. Calm down dear, we have to take bitter pills sometimes to overcome the pain. Ruq's drama is that bitter pill. lets just swallow it & better days will be here soon...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: prejudiced

Nice take!

Yes Ruqu's tantrums were infuriating and so was the way she is playing with Ja's emotions...not to mention Jo and Ja going the xtra length for her and reassuring her..
But then, if Jodha or for that matter Jalaal behave otherwise, it wouldn't be true to their character.
Jodha being an unassuming and good soul went above and beyond to reassure Ruqqu.
And Jalaal does care for his friend and wanted to set the record right.
Anycase Ruqqu is digging the grave so deep there is no escape...So matter of time...
She is realizing...her deeds are only bringing Jo-Ja further closer...

I don't agree this is behaviour is the true reflection of either Jodha or Jalal's character. If it wwere so then we have to see if they maintain this same chaacracter even after the Riq bhandaphod. If their character changes after the Ruq bhandaphod can we say their character has changed?
I think its not to do with their true character or not because people change with time and events and exposure and experience. We like to see and analyse how they change over time and events.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vinitaj27

Hi!

Love reading ur analysis everyday. How's ur back now? Btw what's ur name? Seems wierd calling u skanda.
I agree that jalal should in clear words tell ruqqaiya that he loves jodha, till now ruqqaiya has heard it from everyone except jalal. I can feel for him as he wants the best for his child after waiting so long for it n he also knows that ruqqaiya is volatile n childish so he is not sure of her actions. I guess somewhere down the line he has started to see this coming child more as his and jodha's.
I did like the fact that he praised jodha in front of ruqqaiya but I didn't like that he was ready to send jodha to her in her room. Wasn't jodha hurt too n tired after a long n dangerous outing or is she supposed to be on beck n call of BEK all the time? I wish he had told her to let jodha rest n call someone else.
Loved the prayer scene. Till now jalal made the effort to know her customs now she is doing the same n in a way showing him that she is ready to accept him with all his traditions n customs n ways of doing things. It somehow felt more close than a hug. I also loved the fact that when he self deprecated by calling himself an illiterate she was quick to come to his defence by saying that he was more knowledgeable than the learned ones. Also ths act of her asking him to be her guru showed her respect for him which he needs as I feel he somehow feels insecure coz of his inability to read or write.

Call me Mansi. And I loved that blue part of your analysis. Sounds bang on!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: indigodevi

Mnasi, great analysis of the scene between JJ & Ruq. But you must be really agitated as is evident from your post today. Calm down dear, we have to take bitter pills sometimes to overcome the pain. Ruq's drama is that bitter pill. lets just swallow it & better days will be here soon...

No Ruq does not agitate me. Its Jodha and Jalal's body language that seems to be difficult for me to swallow!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Superb take, Mansi... frankly i loved the episode...even the scenes of Ruku Jalal and Jo...i know many r miffed by Ruku's behavior and even with Jalal and Jo for tolerating her , rather giving her unnecessary importance...even i didn't like it, still i won't say they were wrong... all three of them were right in their places , in what they did, and the way they did...

the very first thing, Mansi, is we all don't like Jalal's behavior of tolerating Ruku... then look at it in a totally different way... he is not just any common man...he is a Shehenshah, with many enemies around him... he knows he can't name anyone as a friend and other as enemy... he knows he can't trust anybody, coz till date he has been backstabbed more from those whom he trusted as his own... and so he is well aware that his life is always in danger , even next moment he can die, and so he most desperately needs his child , his heir to come to this world safely... it's natural that the kid, and the woman who id bearing that kid becomes his top priority...

then again, not much time has gone when he has lost his kid that too with same woman, even before it was born... he was shattered then... he knows the pain to lose somebody close to his heart... and if he is not ready to take same pain again, can we blame him?

we as viewers , know Ruku is faking pregnancy... but the character Jalal doesn't know it... and just coz we hate ruku for cheating Jalal, we can't expect him to hate the would be mother of his child...

and as for his not saying the word when Ruku was insulting Jo, then he stayed quite only for some time... he rather gave back even more badly, presenting him and Jo as a team, and then declaring that henceforth Jo will accompany him all the time and everywhere, and thus showing that he and Jo r now unseperable... and with this very perfect act, he put ruku right in her place...

i won't blame him if he is taking her any tantrum... now he is in love with Jo, so us expecting that his relationship with Ruku should change fully, is simply not done... Ruku is afterall, herself the princess of his own family with same rights like his own, his first cousin, his first wife and queen, his best childhood buddy, with whom he has shared every moment of his life till he fell for Jo...and once before they both have suffered the loss of their unborn child... so now when she is abt to give him another child, then his taking extra care of her , is just fine...

and i don't think , he is hurting Jo... coz they have merged in eachother now... she is not different from him... rather it's her where he finds peace and solace... and so even when he doesn't like ruku insulting Jo, still he bears it, only coz he desperately craves that kid... and he knows Jo understands him, and won't misunderstand him, and that he can trust her to support him for his ignoring Ruku's bad behavior with Jo...he knows that now he had that much strong relationship with Jo, that trust in her to care for him and not hurting him...

friends, there is much more to say... this is not all... but right now , i have to go... will write more abt Jo when i come back...



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dear Mansi,
Supertake on an below avergae epidoe yesterday.. Actually hated the first half.. But really Mansi, you dissected the scene between Jala, Ruks-Jo.. superbly..Perfect analysis of each ones behavious.. But do you think Ruks will make an exit.. No..Mansi.. she will be there till the end.. Look at Maham.. She is still going strong.. We were expectin her to go about a month ago.. they are the favorites of of Ekta.. they won't go so soon however we want them to go...

Anyways.. Jalal's and Jodha's behaviour was not acceptable at all. Though I can understand that they were tolerating Ruks and her tantrums because of her pregnancy and her so called delicate condition.. but Still Jalal could have been more firm with her ..Jodha could have just walked out when Ruks showed displeasure due her to her presence.. She would have looked much more dignified. Left Jalal to placate Ruks..what the need to stand there and bear more insults?? Jalal-Jo looking guilty ... actually also looked funny..why had they to look guilty.. Why did not Jalal even feel bad once when Ruks had not an ounce of sympathy for Jodha inspite of her taking care of her all day and night?? Does not she atleast have the courtesy to ask Jodha if she was alright? and then she has the audacity to order Jalal to send Jodha to her after all this..What the hell?? CVS Are really butchering Jalals and Jodha's character and just made them puppets in Ruks hands... looks so very pathetic..

Jalal ,I dont think has problems in accepting his love for Jodha nor does he feel guilty about it.. and maybe he will openly admit it in front of Ruks if she questions him about it.. but care for her feelings as well. He is not guilty for loving Jodha more than Ruks..he has in fact never fallen in love with anyone before Jo.. though Ruks was his best friend and his first wife ..he knows her too well that she is power obsessed and does not love him the way Jodha does.. Jalal is an open book.. everyone can read him.. everyone around is already aware of his feelings for Jodha.. that they share a very special bond..its Ruks who is not ready to accept it.. though she is quiet aware of it..

Today everyone in the forum must be fuming at Jalal's behavior..

In all this crap.. what about Chand Begum...Why CVS start some tracks ..then suddenly switch to some other track.. Now every one has forgotten that Cand begum's life is in danger?? Just to drag ..the tracks endllessly they will introduce one more track out of nowhere or was it to extend Maham's role even more.. CVS ,PH and Ekta cannot bear to see MA's exit so soon.. they want her to hang around for some time.. .but frankly I can tolerate Maham.. but not Ruks anymore..

The second half was good ..but nothing new.. OK Jodha learning to do namaz.. Jalal and Jo praying together.. was all cute..and nice.. but teh first half left a bitter taste .to the whole episode.. Hope Ruks is exposed soon .. so we can still say.All is well that ends well.!!!
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