Average episode - Page 41

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

OMG...scary...hope not...all the more reason why Shahnaz's movements need to be restricted...she enters any hojra using her " i am crazy" mask...how long will haremites tolerate it? if something bad happens...Jo will have to answer...now she knows that Shehnaz can be dangerous...she is still not doing anything about it...Shehnaaz roams around freely because she is Shehensha's favorite queen's friend...I hope that Jo doesn't pay a huge prize for this.

Originally posted by: AntaresVega

Wonderful take cleo! Surprisingly in all this what catches my eye is John Nash. I would like to know more about him. Wasn't he a mathematician from Princeton? And about KGB spying him...you mean the Politburo and Secret Police? Send it in a pm. Thanks.

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Cleo,

Wonderfully expressed. I agree Jalal was not at fault for being angry with Shehnaz. He only shouted at Jo in this anger. True, being an adult and a king, he should have better control over his temper. But here his reaction as a aguardian was normal and understandable. I also would have preferred if Jo had kept quiet about Shehnaz @ that time cos it's no use trying to make an angry person see things from ur POV. It only incenses them more. It is better to wait till they have calmed down.

At that time, jo and SB could have concurred with Jalal and agreed that Shehnaz needs to be kept under restrictions or under watch if they want to keep her in Agra only. Jo has no choice here cos of that vachan.

I was chilled by the scene as I could see my child there. I am disturbed by the casualness of mothers including HB, MV, SB, and even Jo and Ruq (step moms) in this show. Time and again Minnie and I mention this aspect. Nothing and no one is more imp than a child.

SB perhaps hid her reactions so that she could counter Ruq who was trying to fan Jalal's temper. Agreed Jalal may have regretted his anger after cooling down and Jo wasn't really perturbed much by it. But if SB hadn't intervened then, Ruq may have influenced Jalal's thinking and prevented him from regretting shouting at Jo. Apart from short temper, being easily influenced is another flaw in Jalal. So SB had to counter Ruq at that time. If he had shut them both, it is hard to say what he would have done on his own. He may not have understood why jo was attached to Shehnaz. He needed to know this or he may MUed Jo's love for Rahim or her intentions in speaking up for Shehnaz. He also needed to cool down fast before his WA and that may not have happened naturally. Also if he had not immediately gone and spoken to Jo, her anger may have festered and an MU may have resulted. Sometimes things must be ironed out sooner rather than later as otherwise ego may crop in.

I also feel shehnaz is slightly psychotic. She is planning to dethrone and kill jalal and jodha. She seems icy cold and maniacal at that time. Vicious and cold blooded murderer. She also doesn't seem to have any fear or qualm about her plans.

I want to say once more you have done a great job in analysing the situation and presenting it so clinically and compellingly.sorry can't press like from mob.

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

there was even a movie made about him, I believe 😊

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

Cleo I just loved your post. I think you hit the nail on the head. You made me think about the episode with fresh eyes.

🤗 Thanks sweetie.

means a lot to me.

🤗 back at you. I noticed you typed in bold and large letters for me. Really appreciate it 😃

I think the problem -speaking for myself - was Jalal seen getting influenced by Rukayya. I also wrote on Mansi thread yesterday the issue was not Jalal's anger but Jalal's anger and shouting on Jodha in front of Rukayya especially.

It is entirely accumulated feeling where we have always seen Jalal react differently when the guilty party is Rukayya.

true...he does let her get away with a lot...Have you noticed something? Hope this is not an imagination of optimistic side of my brain...It seems that he doesn't like her presence around him...dismisses her as soon as he can...almost like he is beginning to get disgusted by her presence. He is tolerating a lot of pakau dialogues from Ruk...Are CVs doing it for a reason? So when he has a mega outburst, the viewers give them a standing ovation.

BTW...three vamps, each working on her own agenda in one episode...the screen is getting overcrowded.

I like this underlined parts 😃 I think everytime Rukayya tries to be fake nice or shows her petty arrogant side Jalal doesn't say anything to her but sends her away! Which is thankfully most of the time nowadays. 😆

Ela made absolutely bang on comment today - the question is not about family or shouting but being fair. Wasn't SB family when Jalal was upset with Rukayya on knowing Rukayya knew about Rajvanshi in haram? If I may point out - Jalal was in absolutely worst mood and anger that day. Still just the second SB walked in Jalal stopped and did not bring out Rukayya part in front of her - why not? Did he not trust SB will not discuss with anybody else?

Jalal did same with Rukayya in Murti kand. If I remember correctly you had pointed out that Jalal only said Jodha could not have done it but did not point the real culprit so many still thought Jodha could have done it.

yes...I remember that..in fact I also said that it was not a fair election for the same reason

Rukayya had broke haram rule and done worse. Jalal is ALWAYS very protective of Rukayya. It seem no matter how badly she behaves lies, insults he just lets her do that.

I guess I expected THIS Jalal to be different with Jodha - again HE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN GETTING ANGRY AND SHOUTING - the grouse was he did it in front of Rukayya. Who was gleefully adding ghee to fire.

Again - why did Jalal not shout on SB? She is the mother and isn't she supposed to take better care of Rahim? Rahim had once fallen in water and Jodha had saved him. What about the numerous bandis around?

Ruk was annoying...I found Salima's initial reaction strange and unbelievable..no one was holding Rahim till HB arrived.

Why did Jalal not shout at SB what is she doing not taking care of Rahim?

BTW Jodha did not LET Rahim play with Shehnaz cos she was sitting with Jalal when Rahim Shehnaz started the dolls fight. That time Jalal did not think anything about it, so why would Jodha have.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this one...that behavior was child like...but the clapping and laughing suggested an underlying mental disorder..

I guess the upset about Jalal shouting on Jodha is all the accumulated hurt at his always shielding Rukayya but first to shout on Jodha.

exactly

Rest all I agree with your views 100%. Jodha should know better now, and so should SB.

In fact I wonder at these 2 describing Shehnaz as childlike. Jodha should know she is not - wasn't Shehnaz talking with Jodha about Mohabbat and dil and love for Jalal? About loving someone and losing him? How can a childlike person talk about mohhabat this way?

Yeah...they should have waited to defend her...the timing was very wrong...and it wasnt like Jalal was sending her to the gallows...in fact, all he needed to hear was...ok, we'll keep her away from Rahim.

Yes agree totally. Jalal was very right to be upset and I wish Jodha stops being so trusting and goody goody to everybody.

I agree with Jalal's anger and his reaction and he is right in wanting to send Shehnaz away.

All villains in Agra are blessed with multiple lifelines.

😡😡😡

Loved your post and you made me think of why I felt bad.

The hurt is accumulated about Jodha's insults and shouting on her all the time and shielding Rukayya.

True

I just want to see Jalal accord same respect to Jodha NOW that he always seems to give Rukayya and SB.

Once again loved your post you made me think, you are right the anger was about Rukayya not Jalal. Jalal knows what Rukayya has tried to do against Jodha - why should her views have any credibility with Jalal?
SB is different matter.

I have a feeling that a big outburst is just around the corner.

😃😃😃 Waiting eagerly.

Originally posted by: sonia_1

Jo will be blamed for sure