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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: smile.sara

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so she the Mahan insaan taking revenge ,,,hmmm
before tht benz track he was extremely disheartened due to the dhakkah but he didn't unturn any possibility to investigate benz... called her in DEK on jodha argument tht she is VK... made search of bez room... and soon after her VP he repented and ask forgiveness from GOD pray for her...
if she is taking badla than she is herself not mistake proof...first make herself pure soul than try to reform other ... hisab baraber ..😲



Its not taking revenge.. there'll be times when u put your ego above all other emotions.. dhakkah wala episode mein tho kisi ka bhi galti nahi.. but when Jo tried to explain things why wasn't he ready to listen.. EGO.. right?? and how could Salima begum trust JO so much even after seeing no proofs against Ben.. She just says one stmt.. "If Jo is saying.. I trust her.. though there might not be any proofs today".. why can't Jallu do that?

btw.. its simple logic to keep an eye on someone who drank poison to see the after effects.. in that episode he lets Zakira go happily.. and he conveniently forgot the death of his employee due to snake bite on lips.. though Mirza nailed it to Vishkanya point, poor chap Shivani ke chakkar me pad ke finally had to leave for war..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: munnirony

ok lets see it in sum other way. actually for jodha jalal is the most perfect person now. when jodha arrived in agra she had many misconceptions about jalal. but one by one jalal had removed all her misconceptions. on her b'day itself she had admitted tht jalal always proves her wrong of course in a gud way. jalal had done many things which no husband tht too in the 16th century will not even think off. so for her jalal is the one ultimate man who is different from all other men. so her expectations r higher as well from him thts why she is too critical towards him. we may argue tht whether its fair or not but the truth is tht even real jodha also took her time to accept jalal & even she also melted completely after the pilgrim tax abolition.


salim aane mein 7 saal lag gayi the n here its becoming pretty fast 😆😆.
ok jokes part if wat u r saying validates then they r showing right ?😕😲 .So r we complaining so much 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: deepi04


Emotions and lack of emotions is what we get here. Overdose of emotions for everyone and lack of emotions for Jalal. I hope Adia's prediction comes true and we actually see some restlessness at the very least 😆

But for this particular debate, I will only and only blame the CVs. It seems that the CVs and Jo's dialogue writers are not in sync. Take for example the "prem bohut adhik badh gaya hai" many of us were forced to question what prem?? 😕

The issue here was her dialogue and her contradicting actions. I feel from the very start CVs haven't given Jo's characterisation as much depth as given to Jalal, hence the imbalance and contradicting statements between her actions and words. Words alone cannot do the damage control of her previous actions that we were upset with. Even in the ghrina phase, sometimes her actions contradicted her words. Whereas with Jalal we see a lot of consistency with his actions and words, and they are in sync and linked.

EK needs to invest in a new team of CVs or dialogue writers who can portray her character consistently, and also her emotions. In the ghrina phase, she passionately hated Jalal and that was evident, then suddenly we got a half-baked realisation of love scene and love increasing scene? Were we ever shown how or why or when this love increased?

If CVs start paying more attention to her side of the story and give her logical actions and reactions, then and only then will her dialogues make sense and we wouldn't be forced to assume what she's feeling most of the time


@mandy ...I agree ... But one more fiasco ... N boom... !!!! She will be back to ghrina mode ... With her hopeless expressions😡... Mark my words !!!!

@deepi04 - logic ??? In Ekta' serial...??? Forget it my dear ...???? Btw I need a very very big , clear cut explanation of jodha's version of "Prem" , "Bahaut Prem" & "Adhik Prem " from the cv's ... Seriously saying, m quite confused with jodha's conclusions, illusions n definition about her " Prem towards TE" ... Coz till now I have only seen her ranting "hum unse ghrina karate hain , n now she doesn't " 😡next is "humne apna patni hone ka kartavya nibhaya hai"🤢... I am sorry cv's , I don't remember any episodes where she felt a pinch of love towards jallu , till the letter episode in which she mentioned abt her ghrina ke khichad mein prem ka kamal khilne hi laga tha ki aapne_______ 😡 N I was like what the hell ... When on earth did her prem ka kamal khilgaya for jalal ... I never felt it in a single episode...😲 ...
Edited by varshaakulkarni - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey Mandyg,
I am in no way in favor of jodha behaving the way she has been doing in the last few weeks but I do feel in general love takes time to grow. It goes thru stages and takes time to develop into unconditional love. It is true that she is at fault for taking her ego and not listening to him when he apologised but she did accept she loves him even when she left him and was alone on the streets of mathura or even after jalal left amer before all this teerthkar happened. She just wasn't ready to let go of her ego but she has accepted that she was at fault and wants to correct her mistake. I guess sometimes when we love someone we end up having higher n sometimes unreasonable expectations from that person and want him to trust us regardless of what the circumstances r. I know it's not fair but then love hardly ever is. He has already reached a stage of love which is devoid of ego as far as u conditional goes that we will see as story goes further but she is behind him and will reach there soon. Even in arranged marriages couples do fall in love but egos and lack of trust do play a part there too. So just wait for some time and I m sure she will be as much in love with him as he is now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: smile.sara

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if she didn't die jalal will also not die..or his prayers are more powerful for her than her for his😆...and at tht time she didn't lie to him ...she didn't hide any thing to him... she was open ...she went for Mha shivratri puja in night but he knew it about her mandir visit, even she told him her vsit to shareef in prison by herself n didn't didn't get mad to her ... time jhoot is main reason of this whole mess...

Seriously?😕
Its the 16th century we are talking about! Vachans are valued more than life!
Clearly, she hid things from Jalal because she was bound by her vachan!! She was clearly not happy about that! She too was regretting for giving a vachan to her bro...!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunshine_sun


salim aane mein 7 saal lag gayi the n here its becoming pretty fast 😆😆.
ok jokes part if wat u r saying validates then they r showing right ?😕😲 .So r we complaining so much 😭


well obviously evrything is not right many things r certainly fictionalized but its quite obvious if a girl gets married to an enemy she is bound take her time. but in serials things r always over dramatized.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57
Hey mandy,
See jodha here is saying I've realised my mistake. .I took my hath to charam seema.
Means she has realised that jalal has travelled all the way in love..she's too far behind lost in her own cow web of kartavya, decisions and indecisons.
Jalal is a straight forward man...if he errs in a grand way he has the guts to owe the responsibility and mend it in a grander way.
He has not forgiven tax due to jodha it was due to his intellect and now a very sensitive heart he took that decision.
Jodha is now coming as she has to travel faster than jalal in journey of love and she wants to catch him for sure.
If jodha is in this spirit its good...I can wait for an episode. .but now she has to be head over heels in love .
And yes she loves him but is sensitive about her position in jalals life..now she has to be assertive and possessive...who's stopping jalals always in..
This platonic version of love has to be dropped now...and believe me it drives me mad.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: hemakeerti



Its not taking revenge.. there'll be times when u put your ego above all other emotions.. dhakkah wala episode mein tho kisi ka bhi galti nahi.. but when Jo tried to explain things why wasn't he ready to listen.. EGO.. right?? and how could Salima begum trust JO so much even after seeing no proofs against Ben.. She just says one stmt.. "If Jo is saying.. I trust her.. though there might not be any proofs today".. why can't Jallu do that?

btw.. its simple logic to keep an eye on someone who drank poison to see the after effects.. in that episode he lets Zakira go happily.. and he conveniently forgot the death of his employee due to snake bite on lips.. though Mirza nailed it to Vishkanya point, poor chap Shivani ke chakkar me pad ke finally had to leave for war..

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mandy I m arguing on your thread at 2 am and u even not replying me... I m going to sleep ... if u want to, pls tell her tht we the jalal fans never say he was absolutely right in benz track , we always said he failed as king as administrator and as soldier in tht track ... we always said his spy system was n is ridiculous... we always admired jodha in tht track we just argued tht time tht Akbar is not any fictional character or property of CV to butcher this master mind great emperor to this extend how they did to him in tht bez track but she is keep arguing me on tht benz track rather talking about this track ...
the people who don't want to listen I cant do any thing for them ...SB is jodha friend or sister like figure but jalal in DEK is king he cant act with out proofs even now after so much LOVE if there is no proof against or for jodha it will be very difficult for him as a king to deny proofs in DEK ...
we cant deny the very fact tht this is not a story of ordinary husband wife ... jala is king she is not equal to him as his queen and wife ...she has to take this fact she is obliged to not hide any thing to her king and husband and as king he is not obliged to share every thing to her
from me thanx and good night ...who ever from my co jalal fans want to argue her pls feel free to do
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: smile.sara

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mandy I m arguing on your thread at 2 am and u even not replying me... I m going to sleep ... if u want to, pls tell her tht we the jalal fans never say he was absolutely right in benz track , we always said he failed as king as administrator and as soldier in tht track ... we always said his spy system was n is ridiculous... we always admired jodha in tht track we just argued tht time tht Akbar is not any fictional character or property of CV to butcher this master mind great emperor to this extend how they did to him in tht bez track but she is keep arguing me on tht benz track rather talking about this track ...
the people who don't want to listen I cant do any thing for them ...SB is jodha friend or sister like figure but jalal in DEK is king he cant act with out proofs even now after so much LOVE if there is no proof against or for jodha it will be very difficult for him as a king to deny proofs in DEK ...
we cant deny the very fact tht this is not a story of ordinary husband wife ... jala is king she is not equal to him as his queen and wife ...she has to take this fact she is obliged to not hide any thing to her king and husband and as king he is not obliged to share every thing to her
from me thanx and good night ...who ever from my co jalal fans want to argue her pls feel free to do

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: peepu

Hey mandy,

See jodha here is saying I've realised my mistake. .I took my hath to charam seema.
Means she has realised that jalal has travelled all the way in love..she's too far behind lost in her own cow web of kartavya, decisions and indecisons.
Jalal is a straight forward man...if he errs in a grand way he has the guts to owe the responsibility and mend it in a grander way.
He has not forgiven tax due to jodha it was due to his intellect and now a very sensitive heart he took that decision.
Jodha is now coming as she has to travel faster than jalal in journey of love and she wants to catch him for sure.
If jodha is in this spirit its good...I can wait for an episode. .but now she has to be head over heels in love .
And yes she loves him but is sensitive about her position in jalals life..now she has to be assertive and possessive...who's stopping jalals always in..
This platonic version of love has to be dropped now...and believe me it drives me mad.



Peepu , the question here is why the realization of love towards TE after he abolished pilgrim tax ...? Why not before that ...????

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