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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepi04

There have been scenes before where they showed her feeling touched by his gestures so I don't understand how this one reform is enough for her to go back. It definitely does look like she's going back to the changed Jalal she will love. A love that requires conditions to be fulfilled before the heart is won is not love at all, let alone an 'epic love story' 😆

Maybe if they showed her missing him and her tadap with as much extremity as they showed Jalal, and didn't show all those dialogues about how he does not know love, then things would not have looked so bad from her POV, but because they have, she only looks more selfish and insensitive towards Jalal

Instead of redeeming her, they've lowered her some more to greater depths 😆

Why can't she accept him unconditionally like he has accepted her 😕 how am I meant to believe that she loves him just as much as he loves her if her love is conditional and his unconditional? There can be no comparison.

Instead of butchering her development in love after the vishpaan, if they continued to nurture it further, we would have a more balanced and believable epic love story.



very well said deepi! i want to see more convincing love from her side to be called it as epic..even in the precap jalal is shown all excited, wonder if jodha will be able to carry such emotions equally well!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am veryy silent member of forum...but just came to say what i felt...
I feel the main reason behind jodha coming back is now she again started trusting him which she lost when he doubted her...before she slowly started realising that jalal have heart ...but when again he doubted her and asked to leave agra...she completely lost faith in him..even when he came back she was still not confident and was in a dilemma if he repeat the same thing then..so till now she was reluctant..but now when he started doing things listening to heart she again regained the lost faith and decided to come ...i agree to certain extent that jodha was also at fault to certain extent in this whole suja fiasco..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I totally agree with u mandy. 👍🏼
Love should be unconditional. She is returning just becos of abolishing thirty tax, which is unacceptable . I will become 😈, if she forgive MA.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: varshaakulkarni

Well said Mandy ...👏 ...n u have a point ... Here surely the blame goes to the cv's for butchering jodha's character ... Even mine is an arranged marriage ... But I accepted my husband the way he is ... Even though I hate certain things (well most of the things😆) about him , but still I love him the way he is ... N same goes ,hwith my hubby ... He has accepted me graciously handling my tantrums from last 3 years 😆 ... Pure love is loving a person the way he is ... N not by changing him into someone else ... Well here it's good that jalal has altered certain things abt himself ... Like being arrogant , cruel , heartless etc etc ... But as u said jodha's love is a conditional love ... N I wud say jalal's love is an unconditional love ...



jodha is not perfect but still jalal has accepted her..she is stubborn and he knows it but still he loves her..on the other hand has jodha accepted him the way he is?..i do not think so, she only accepted his jai jaikaar and not the man himself as he is..!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg



very well said deepi! i want to see more convincing love from her side to be called it as epic..even in the precap jalal is shown all excited, wonder if jodha will be able to carry such emotions equally well!


Mandy ... Emotions from jodha towards jalal ... Haaww😲 R u kidding me ... Her emotions r only for rest of the world ... GHRINA & UNGRATEFULNESS are the only emotion she has towards jalal
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shweta16


She should have returned for him and not because of his good deeds. What if he would have punished her sister and he did not agree with TM to abolish the tax. Things would have been different then ! This is certainly not what we were promised. Her love is conditional and there is no denying of this fact, I don't see any difference in Ruq's love for Jalal and Jodha's love for Jalal.



shweta you have touched a very important point here that could be entirely another topic,,i too do not see much difference in ruq and jodha's love..ruq loves him because he is the shahenshah..jodha loves him because of what he is doing for the awaam..but what about the man jalal who needs the tender love and care from a wife..where is that wife that lover? i do not see in either of these two!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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jodha dont love jalal yet... seriously... vishpaan was for kartavya...
she is back to agra as she was impressed with his dariyadili... she need to develop that soft corner for only him now ...minus the fact that he is shehensha and good to his praja...

i feel jodha loves jalal as a good shehensha, respects him because its her kartavya to love him as husband...

but she dont love him as a person as her husband yet...

CVs are confused and they have forgotten that..jodha still not taken baby steps towards him to love...

jalal has become lattu lover her already but jodha is not
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg

hi everyone,

i have a question for you all..this is nothing to do with jodha bashing but i am genuinely confused..does jodha love jalal or not..if she does then why her love is conditional..why has she not accepted jalal as he is..why she wants him to change so that she can fall in love..why she said that his actions have touched her heart..did none of his actions ever touched her heart before?..i fail to understand this type of conditional love..when she did the vishpaan she said it was her kartavya..and now she is saying because he has abolished teerth tax and pardoned shivani he has changed and now i will love him???...what sort of a love this is?...i have seen arranged marriages and after some time husband and wife do madly fall in love and also accept each other's good and bad points but never have i seen a love that lays conditions of winning the heart by actions...then where will that love go that was based on conditions if the person goes faulty again???


Sadly none of ladies in Jalal's life has reciprocate love for him. MA was opportunist , selfish. HB did not shower him with needed motherly love. For Ruq he was mere Shenshah, her pathway to Audha . Almost same goes for Jodha - everything she does is for patni kartvya . Jalal sees her as soulmate but for jodha his pati is a Shenshah not her love .

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I feel it is because that she loves him so such that she wants to see him as one of the best king or king of kings she does not recognize her feelings but she has in mind a ideal king figure as she wants him changed had she not loved him she would not have bothered at all and then just ignored him and would have spent her life in some corner of harem she had the guts and love for him and he changed into an ideal king with broad minded thinking rising above all the petty things

It is a differnt thing not the love of common man it is love between a King and Queen who had to live exemplary lives earn the love and respect of so many people ,a huge mass of divergent religions status and cultures ,and family and near and dear people .
In a way I feel its is unconditional in the sense that Jodha never thought of her own personal benefit at any stage and hats off to Jalal who was equally willing to learn, reform from all ,shows his humility and also love/learn for her.Turning from a unloved dictator to a peoples man/king a great feat with lot of contribution from Jodha as well.If she could do that means she also had the support of Jalal at all turns of her life even when he was a dictator.
Like Mansi put in her thread they were the support systems of each other the ulitimate soulmates who did not think of one's own benefit but for the greater good and both suffered but made a name in history that they are remembered even today.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rima4ever

even i still feel that she does not love him



rima, sadly i am not convinced and my problem is that this show is about jodha and akbar..i am loving every bit of akbar other than his crying but whenever jodha comes i cannot enjoy for some reason..maybe because i have not seen any good scene of these two together except a few!

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