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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: rpeez

Divi,

Yes the episode was good!

Agreed!

A few observations from my side,
1. Hamida truly knows her son and wants him to be happy. After asking him his reason in not consulting her with Thirthkar abolition, she went to Maham and asked her to reconcile. She gauged Jalaal's mood, and when she came to know that, Jalaal ignored her not out of anger, but, concern, she instantly went to MA.

I like your POV on Hamida ... Though I still need to get over why she did not show the same concern in Jodha's matter...

2. MA has motion detectors in her hojra, one moment she was making halloween mask faces and next moment she straightened up her face when she realized HB was there.

Oh her detector missed Javeda once, remember? 😆

3. Jalaal's dark green and red dress is inspired by his Hojra colour scheme. Phew! Decoded that one finally.

You are a stylist at heart!

4. Bharmal dude, apparently if you had hired 50 people to shout Shahenshah Jalaluddin Zindabaad outside Jo's kaksh, she would've packed and moved looong back.

If only he understood his daughter ... She is a tough one to understand 😆

5. Jodha's voice softened when she said Shahenshah part in her I wanna go back dialogue. In fact I feel she said all the words we have been waiting to hear all these days. My reaction? Same as Dadisa's as soon as Jodha said I wanna go back.

Did you do a shashtang pranam to her? 😆

6. Party time! Both in Amer and Agra people wanna party that Jo's going to Agra.

I wonder why Amer is partying so much 😉

7. Regarding your query on messenger - Jo time-lag, I think either Maina took some time selecting gifts for the mughals, or they sent a bird courier.

Kabootar jaa jaa jaa ... 😉😆 It must have been the gifts!

8. Jallu's reaction in precap. Uske aane pe khush ho, to uske mummy banne pe kaisa haal hoga tumhara?

Already focused on the target are you- naughty girl!

9. Classic - Jallu's expression when his mommy came in looked like that of a 12 year old's when his mommy comes into the room, while he's going through Playboy or something. Guilty, guilty guilty.

Great observation! You are getting good at this!

What do you think was in that tiny parcel Jo was distributing among folks? I am thinking granola bars.

I love granola bars! How did Jodha know?

Awesome post! Great acting by Paridhi as well. 👍🏼

Thanks rocking Raksha!

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Posted: 11 years ago
#22
Hey Divya great post.
I really like the MP scene today. This is what I love in this show. They don't demean Pratap to glorify Akbar. They didn't made MP a villain. He was thinking politically.
After a long time I like Jodha today. I like the restlessness to see Jalal. Finally she accepted she has crossed the limit.
But I agree with lashy. What if He would not hab abolished "terthkar". What is the importance of a "Tertkar" in a husband-wife fight? It took her so many time to realize he has changed???? 😕 .She didn't realize it before the "Tertkar"?
I don't think Divyashe will accept her part in MU and apologize for it. I would have been really happy if she had done that. But what can we do? As u said we should move on.
Whats with HB? She was so angry on Jalal but now even after knowing that MA was responsible for all this she isn't blasting her? Infact she is trying to patch up Ja and MA?
But I really like her and Jalal scene.
I missed the discussion of such an awesome epi of 8th may 😭 . That epi was mindblowing. Jalal was awesome in DEK. His all dialogue was seeti maro types. The dialogue writers have done an awesome job. I love all the dialogues. Especially that Shanenshan is father of all his praja, rain one, sud one and his dialogue to those so called Olemas. He understand Islam better than those Ulamas. RT was great as usual.
Thnks to this show I m loving Jalal more and more .Both the Jalal reel and real one. He was such a great king.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: munnirony

awsum analysis divya. i liked ur points. but im still upset with the dialogue writers. " shahenshah ka hriday jagne laga hain" is again a wrong dialogue. he had shown many times tht he has heart. even jodha herself had admitted it many times. she had seen it many times. but i guess again the dialogue writers had forgotten evrything.😕



Thanks! Yes, I also was disappointed about that point- was going to make a sidenote that Jodha finally needs to decide whether he has a heart or not or how will she ever fully trust or love him but then thought I would just stay in my cheerful mode instead of nitpick in probably what was a SW faux paus.

My only justification: She has started to build a case that he had a heart and the Friday outburst shattered it all ... She is slowly rebuilding it and they may focus on how her feelings for him rebuild to drag through IPL. As Adi predicts, some injuries to Jalal may be needed to get there.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Forget to mention after watching Jalal's smile in precap. I don't think they r meeting easily. There is going to be some problem.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

in fact Jodha was the one to tell him he has a heart😆
CVs have serious amnesia I tell u


thts wht im saying. ok fine he had committed a mistake but tht doesnt prove he became heartless. he has heart with or without pilgrim tax abolition. 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

lashy I keep saying that if the Universe wants us to learn a lesson she will keep sending us the 'parikshas' so that we learn them - and she becomes a Zen master and even beats us into learning them if we become dheeth - Jodha Ranisa has to learn this lesson on Love - but unfortunately for that our poor poor TE will be getting hurt - I would say there a minimum of 3 more direct attempts on his life that are yet to happen in the immediate future of which I do know that in 2 he will get hurt!!!!

Agreed Adi - she is not in the same degree of love yet and it might take a few attacks and acts of the Universe to get there ... How else will they get past IPL!


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Posted: 11 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: prejudiced

Nice take. I like how the creative team is bring closure to this MU. It definitely was stretched beyond reasonable limits in the process making Jalaal look a bit like a Majnu and Jodha excessively stubborn but oh well ...alls well that ends well.

Thanks! All's well that end's well!

Kudo's to both mom's. MV knew exactly how to handle her daughter as she knows her daughter inside out.. Same case with Hamida too...She played devil's advocate when needed and extended her arms and support and appreciation when she thought best.True Mom.

Liked Mainavati more as she says what she means ... Hamida Bano may be more like Jodha, words say one thing, intentions are another 😉 Just kidding. 😆
Eager Jalaal awaiting Jodha makes me think, typical Ekta, may not make them meet right away, but will wait n watch. Am not gonna lose my sleep wondering abt the possibilities.

I know- at this point, sabar ka pal meetha hota hai.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm

Yesterday was the action ... Today was the day of reactions ... So, more than Jalal, today was focused on the people around him and of course, Jodha's monumental decision to return to Agra.

So, without much ado let's get to the take 5 that gets Jodha to Agra:

(1) Given the monumental nature of Jalal's abolishing the theerth yatra tax it was great that they showed diverse perspectives of people to his reform ... Ranging from Maharana Pratap who saw it as a more political ploy, to Moti and the other baandhis who felt a burden had been lifted off their shoulders, and then the crowd in front of Jodha who were happy they did not need the daan anymore. It shows the ripples Jalal created on people around him. 👏



By the way, looks like Moti is trying to give Jodha some serious competition ... I am not surprised Jodha is worried- she could not wait till the morning to leave. 😆

Moti was the one who conspired against Jodha, you remember she stopped Jodha from telling about Sujamal.😆

(2) The biggest ripple effect was of course on Jodha Begum ... Loved her natural reaction of happiness when she heard the teerth yaatra was repealed by the Shehenshah ... She also commented that the Shehenshah will receive a lot of "asheesh" for this which is obviously her and her love ... I loved the soul talk and reflection that followed for the following reasons:
- The two scenes she remembered: (1) The day he folded his hands and asked her one last time to come and (2) When Mainavati was telling her that his crime was not that bad ... That finally means that his asking forgiveness superceded her memories of that fateful night of accusation 😊
- She clearly described how his actions in forgiving Shivani and his abolition of the teerth yatra tax proved to her that his heart was awakening .., and that is what touched her heart and changed her heart 👏
- Her impatience to meet him ... And how he had touched his heart and she wanted to meet him immediately ... This was the restlessness we were waiting to see in her! 😳

She is happy with jay jay kar of Jodha Begum's husband.

(3) The cute Ameri family dinner: I liked it at showed the viewpoints of Jodha's family on the situation at hand and made them feel like s very natural family
- Mainavati: I must say Mainavati has a very strong understanding of her daughter ... She realized how Jodha was beginning to melt with the Shivani matter but then it now looked like she might not go back to Agra ... It's true, at times Jodha did look like she was ready to move on.
- Dadisa: As witness to Jodha's Badal stories 😳, she probably knew best that Jalal was near and dear to Jodha all the time these days. She was the most confident that Jodha will decide to go back to Agra.
- Bharmal was eagerly looking forward to see Jodha off to her sasural and was ready to declare it a national holiday - I mean hold a utsav (See, I told you that Jodha wanting to leave could have been his dream ... He wanted it so badly 😆)

He was glad that, he doesn't have to hear her pravachans anymore and persuade him to forgive Sujamal and Shivani. Phewww😆

And of course, this was nice because it was a good precursor to their expressions of happiness upon Jodha's decision to go back to Agra.

(4) Jodha's decision to go back to Agra: I liked it for three reasons:
- She admitted she made a mistake (of refusing Jalal's forgiveness), admitted she was stubborn beyond limits, and had made an anuchit decision. 👏 And, I respect her more for it.
- She wants to go back to her Shehenshah ... Not Ammijaan, Rahim, Apni parivaar ki khaatir 😳
- She was so impatient that she wanted to leave that night itself. Loved it! 😃

Happy that Jalal will be happy by her return, he is happy, so are we😉

(5) Jalal's 360 turn in the episode:
- In the beginning of the episode, we saw Jalal in the dumps ... Wondering if Jodha was even thinking of him or not and maybe the pilgrimage tax will remind her of him 😭
- Jump to the precap and you have Jalal grinning from ear to ear in excitement that he finally the light of happiness was shining in his life again as he eagerly awaited Jodha Begum's arrival. It is so nice to see him smile! 😃

Rajat is truly the master of expressions!

He always steals the scene😳

Though I have no clue how the messenger with the news that Jodha Begum was arriving, arrived before Jodha as she left immediately! Why was Jodha not traveling with that messenger. 😉😆

The messenger is on the tez ghoda u see😆

But, Jodha will get to Agra for sure given the new WhatsonIndia spoiler that she will face off with Maham Anga. Though I trust the CVs may come up with some delaying tactics, especially for first meeting.

A long P.S. to folks who wanted Jodha to realize and acknowledge her mistake in the misunderstanding:
- Now that Jodha has realized her mistake in being stubborn and not forgiving Jalal ... This could pave way for her to apologize for her role in the misunderstanding. I can picture a scene where when she is back Jalal once again says he was wrong in not trusting her and he will never do it again ... And she also acknowledges her role in the mistake and that she will not hide things from him again.
- That being said, there is a high probability that her role in the misunderstanding will be forgotten ... But, all I can say is if Jalal is happy with just her returning ... There is nothing we can do. We know he has told her she also played a role in the misunderstanding so Jalal is not being ignorant. But, sometimes, people decide to just move on ...and we should too. If Jalal-Jodha are happy, then why should we forumwaasis be unhappy? It just shows Jalal has a big heart that Jodha is lucky to be in. 😊

Anyways, let's celebrate this weekend for Jodha's return to Agra and the return of Jalal's happiness!

Please join me here for your thoughts on the episode!



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm



Thanks! Yes, I also was disappointed about that point- was going to make a sidenote that Jodha finally needs to decide whether he has a heart or not or how will she ever fully trust or love him but then thought I would just stay in my cheerful mode instead of nitpick in probably what was a SW faux paus.

My only justification: She has started to build a case that he had a heart and the Friday outburst shattered it all ... She is slowly rebuilding it and they may focus on how her feelings for him rebuild to drag through IPL. As Adi predicts, some injuries to Jalal may be needed to get there.


ya but after BB's case jodha had clearly said tht jalal lies tht he dont have any heart & tht time she wasnt in love or not even in friendship mode.😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: TheIronLady

You know Divi I am hell tired of this Jalal vs Jodha...Jalal vs Jodha...or Whether they deserve each other or not?...

Me too! Though I may have contributed to that 😆I always knew Jodha and Jalal deserved each other just thought CVs didn't show them in a balanced way ... Ah well, I am over it now and hopefully that is clear from my post

For now I am happy that Jodha decided to go back and admitted her mistake.😃

Yes, agreed. She has all the time in the world to become a perfect lover.

Awesome post as usual.😊

Thanks much ...

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