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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: tamy267

Totally loved your analysis Mansi!! The episode took me to another world..it just moved me so much..I am just loss of words! from the beginning till end, it was such a joyous episode to watch! scripting, dialogue, execution, acting everything was top notch! one of the best episodes of JA..too good it was!

I wonder how didn't Zee promote such an important episode??👎🏼

precap was the cherry in the cake..dying to see tonight's episode.

I loved the flashback scene a lot..Jodha not for once insist Jalal to abolish tax but she stated a fact and put a question before him..she was extremely graceful.

"I think that is the real beauty of the Jodha Akbar story. It is not just about how Jodha made Akbar the Great out of Jalal the Jallad. It is about how Jalal rose to become Akbar the Great from his own learnings and decisions but was saved from becoming Akbar the Alone by the love of Jodha that took all loneliness out of his life and filled it with companionship and partnership, even when the rest of the world seemed not to understand how alone he felt!"

lovely!!!👏👏👏

don't get worked up over a spoiler! this whole spoiler doesn't seem true to me..😕why would Jodha be angry at Jalal for saving a child? she would rather push Jalal to go and rescue the kid!!! even if it is true, Ruqu might do this with the help of MA..such ideas won't cross her brain..so she can take advantage of the night when Jalal was completely drunk and dont remember anything..we saw it when he was in Jodha's hojra asking how come he lying down in her bed? it means Jalal doesn't remember a single bit of the night..so he will believe Ruqu's words..its only us and Ruqu know nothing happened in that night..Jalal doesn't know.
if Ruqu do this, she will lose Jalal forever..may be this incident will make Jalal cutting his ties off her for a long long time!! remember, something major happened which led Akbar not to speak or visit Ruqu until Salim was born? CVs can show this using this plot.
I somehow dont buy this spoiler..Ruqu is yearning to become a mother and she knows how much Jalal craves for a child..do u think she can fake her pregnancy?
waise bhi agle din ka spoiler sach nahi hota aur yeh toh next to next track ka spoiler hai!🤔

Tamy, these spoilers could be true but not a bad idea. It could be Ekta's idea to create a teaser before the consummation ... ie. create one or two hungamas before the consummation to make the audience salivate for the consummation. Maybe she will show that first jalal has to go and save the child and then he may get some news Ru q is preg and run but find it to be a false alarm After thus creating two "run away" opportunities finally Ekta may make them consummate!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: nini06

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Jalal is on his way to becoming Akbar the Great, but he is also on the way to becoming Akbar the Alone. This is where the role of love becomes crucial to him. For if his love can remove that sense of loneliness that comes with great power, all life and all decisions become worth it!

I think that is the real beauty of the Jodha Akbar story. It is not just about how Jodha made Akbar the Great out of Jalal the Jallad. It is about how Jalal rose to become Akbar the Great from his own learnings and decisions but was saved from becoming Akbar the Alone by the love of Jodha that took all loneliness out of his life and filled it with companionship and partnership, even when the rest of the world seemed not to understand how alone he felt!


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This was surely the best part of ur annalysis...!!!
Really luved jalal abolishment of taxes...scene...and cherry on top was his scoldings...😉

ON top it jo returning...i m 7 sky right now...😛...best part jalal did all this good work ...not with intention that jo would return...but for jo's happiness...and bcoz he wanted to do gud...

I luved todarmal again...and people lyk munium khan...makes me luv him more...😳
I wonder ...jalal doesn't have a single trustworhty officer...(i soo hate munium khan(people lyk him)...he is such an opppurtunist...😡) i

show is exactly going the movie way...sr...is not far behind...hope its ruqs fake planning...😭
Ps...a personal question dear... how is chennai ??...i have been a delhite for past 6 yrs...never been to chennai...:..now i m selected at srm...😊
hope chenai welcms me well...😛...(read that u were at chennai)...😆




Hi,
This question is not for me. But, yes compared to Delhi, Chennai is MUCH more humid. No winters like Delhi. (as told to me.) Had friends at SRM. The campus is NICE.!. Congrats for your selection.!.

Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Mansi, EPISODE was Fantactic, your analysis, also Fantactic,

Today, i was counting, How many memberes, were PRESENT, yesterday JALAL SIR CLASS.
Attendence was Full.😆 😆 😆 😆. Surprise PACKAGE, MAHAM was sileant, First time, I FEEL, happy, when a power of person snatches, How, HER or HIM statues, down, she was in Anger JONE, but, keeping, quiteness is essential.😆 😆 , (BOLTI BANDD OF MAHAM😆 😆)


1, So cause of TM, advice, jalal knows, WHAT is happening in his KINGDOM, ALERT jalal.

(one thing i notice, jalal personality, he needed to point out, then his BRAIN works, Millon DOLLER, BETTER.HE suddenely, checks, here is falut, here needed, improvement, here needed TIGHTNESS, (EX,here needed, teasing😆 😆)

so He is a Full power package of qualites, but needed to point out. So jodha, complete this
uncompletness. Both are good & learnful personalites. Both wants kingdom & personal realtionship, betterment. Both fights. FIGHTER, try to WIN always. Result comes to ACC to situation.

TM points weakness, of Kingdom, Jalal listens, & trusts, & result, came best.

Here TM acchieved jalal trust again , So listening is FIRST step, & trust automattically comes after. (TM gained both).

Main point Teerth KAR,;

its also tough for AKBAR removing this, but HE tackled this situation, GRACEFULLY
& Delicately.
He ans's everyques, of ULAMEAS, TO the point;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;HAAZIR ZWAAB, AKBAR (JALAL)

i also read this in HIS( IN 16 CEN, when (Hindues get relif of this taxation system, all india united with one FORM.)

so how was He great, how his decesion was confirmed, . He was also a fearless King.

How he was BROAD. He not stops own small & conservative , thoughts & things.👏 👏
but in 21 cen not easy this kind of broadness, 16 cen he fought against this.⭐️ ⭐️


His punishment shows, to culprit, NOW atertness will be increased, in KINGDOM.& Honesty will occopy, her OWN space.



Jodha FB scene.

scene was good. jalal talking Jodha's painting,

Here jodha, How extreem level standing. she knows, this taxation system is Wrong.
but she knows, she not say this point to jalal;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;because ques will rise on JALAL he favours his Queen;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so she not touched this delicate point.

she voiced for Child marriage, She, introduce, jalal to Kingdom people. AbloishmentSLAVERY. ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but this ques she not touched.

But she can help those people, How much she DID, her own income;

This point shows, two things;

1;;Queen;s income freedom, she can spend, own income, own desires.

2;;jodha kindness nature.

Asking jalal, jodha, not hides this talk, but indirectely cleares, HERE IS A FALUT in this system.

So jodha wants, HER husband Repauation will be increased in KINGDOM. But point realted
to her Community, so she not puts in front of Jalal. But by chance when it comes, she puts
delicately.& leaves decesion to Jalal.

COIN, scene, was touchi. How a WOmen BIND her home little things. & little creations.
jalal realize, why he not understand what jodha wants from me;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

i impressed this stenance, Because when REALTIONSHIP, extreem , Siealance, speaks.
& Akdha realtionship going there. Earring scene was also good.

jalal wants this news , should be listen jodha. We want when we not know where is our realtionship going.
we want to secure them. so little things we want,our beloved will listen, because we not know
what is her or his mind saying.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Inflacaution, staze.

THIS siealant energy gives energy us, or we do good work.THIS is indirectely Meditation staze, we are working, for a honourable jone.Meditation is not a, only sitting process, many kinds of maditation.

so atleast jodha got news in Precap;;;;;;;;;;;Now she wants to come for Agra. SO Heart To HEART contactvity, wants to binding again.

😆 😆

So wait & watch.

Jalal sir class, tightely taken, he was full in Form. cunning people deserves this.

sad for jalal his realtives are very cunningful & cheatres.






Edited by ayushimehra - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
From the aspect of political matter episode was spectacular..i wish this type political scenes will be remained continue from now in show.
now come to the point on new spoiler..i m guilelessly in vacillation about new spoiler..2 types think is coming in mind..
1. if ruq will fake with her pregnancy but before this has she thought its consequence? how will she avoid the outer natural symptom that happens on body with the times at the pregnancy period? till date atleast this i have gotten to know, ruq has any understanding power to feel jalal's emotion, pain or not but she huge fears his punishment..moreover,if this time again ruq genuinely becomes pregnant n begets gal baby then why cvs last time showed her miscarriage? how many times cvs will show only ruq's pregnancy where now viewers r expecting jodha's real pregnancy!! is there any sense to bring pregnancy track of ruq again?
2. ruq has already gotten to know despite johda isn't present before jalal physically nevertheless jalal can't out jodha's memory from his mind..n now jodha will b physically close of jalal so soon..hence for growing attraction again towards her n to make separation b/w jj ruq can surplus any kind of level now..therefore she will pretend fake pregnancy for coming close to jalal b/c she knows this sensitive issue will compel jalal to come near her.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: deejagi

"Hum apni bhool sudhaarna chahte hain. Hum wapas Agra jaana chahte hain". ...Jodha

Guys w eare also engrossed in teh spoiler that we have totally side tracked the precap. Jodha looked so humble while she said those words to her father and was too eager to return to Agra. Till yesterday (I mean JA's yeterday), she was still thinking why he doubted her & questioned about her fidelity when she accepted him as her husband completely. So if she is telling that she wants to rectify her mistake, what does it mean? that she has realized Jalal was not wrong in questioning her and infact even after that he had ran behind her a like mad person seeking forgiveness and she was adamant on her stand. But how and that too all of a sudden? Did she by chance overheard someone quoting Jalal & jodha's relation, I mean, a man talking to his wife who has overstayed in her maternal home sayng" I am no Jalal to run arround you and keep trying to mannofy you. Neither I am Jalal who has hell lot odf patience and love for his wife nor you are Jodha, to show attitude. This may work well with royol couple but not with me." in line with the Epic Ramayan where a washer man talks low about Lord SriRam for accepting his wife back despite she spent an year in someone else's custody. Did it hit the right spot in Jodha, that how wrong she had been not to forgive Jalal?
Or did daadisa shared some private moment of her life (similar to Jodha's current scenario) what daadi did then?
Did by chance Jodha met Sujamal again and he told her about how distressed Jalal was on realising his mistake how helpful he was in saving his life from Mughals"
Did Sukanya came to Amer and did she gave some news which alerted Jodha's heart?
Did Shivani's love and sacrifies (of her royolness fro her love) made Jodha realize her mistake?
Did Bharamal's statement on teh wound Shivani gave him was too deep and requires time to heel had the effect on Jodha?????
What could be the reason Jodha took this stand to return to her home?
But what ever may be the reason, i don't want her to decide this on hearing about the Teeth Yatri khar ban but she should leave Amer even before the news reaches Amer. She should get this news on tax on her way back to Agra or once she reach Agra.

Jaya very good questions! My personal feeling is that she got the message that Jalal is still thinking of her and doing the small things that he knows will thrill her. That shows how much he has changed. He didn't even do this after the Sikri trip, so why now does he abolish this tax? She must be thinking that this is a sign that he is every minute thinking only of her these days and trying to show that he has her wishes - small and large - on his mind!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Mansi, EPISODE was Fantactic, your analysis, also Fantactic,


Today, i was counting, How many memberes, were PRESENT, yesterday JALAL SIR CLASS.
Attendence was Full.😆 😆 😆 😆. Surprise PACKAGE, MAHAM was sileant, First time, I FEEL, happy, when a power of person snatches, How, HER or HIM statues, down, she was in Anger JONE, but, keeping, quiteness is essential.😆 😆 , (BOLTI BANDD OF MAHAM😆 😆)


1, So cause of TM, advice, jalal knows, WHAT is happening in his KINGDOM, ALERT jalal.

(one thing i notice, jalal personality, he needed to point out, then his BRAIN works, Millon DOLLER, BETTER.HE suddenely, checks, here is falut, here needed, improvement, here needed TIGHTNESS, (EX,here needed, teasing😆 😆)

so He is a Full power package of qualites, but needed to point out. So jodha, complete this
uncompletness. Both are good & learnful personalites. Both wants kingdom & personal realtionship, betterment. Both fights. FIGHTER, try to WIN always. Result comes to ACC to situation.

TM points weakness, of Kingdom, Jalal listens, & trusts, & result, came best.

Here TM acchieved jalal trust again , So listening is FIRST step, & trust automattically comes after. (TM gained both).

Main point Teerth KAR,;

its also tough for AKBAR removing this, but HE tackled this situation, GRACEFULLY
& Delicately.
He ans's everyques, of ULAMEAS, TO the point;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;HAAZIR ZWAAB, AKBAR (JALAL)

i also read this in HIS( IN 16 CEN, when (Hindues get relif of this taxation system, all india united with one FORM.)

so how was He great, how his decesion was confirmed, . He was also a fearless King.

How he was BROAD. He not stops own small & conservative , thoughts & things.👏 👏
but in 21 cen not easy this kind of broadness, 16 cen he fought against this.⭐️ ⭐️


His punishment shows, to culprit, NOW atertness will be increased, in KINGDOM.& Honesty will occopy, her OWN space.



Jodha FB scene.

scene was good. jalal talking Jodha's painting,

Here jodha, How extreem level standing. she knows, this taxation system is Wrong.
but she knows, she not say this point to jalal;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;because ques will rise on JALAL he favours his Queen;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so she not touched this delicate point.

she voiced for Child marriage, She, introduce, jalal to Kingdom people. AbloishmentSLAVERY. ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but this ques she not touched.

But she can help those people, How much she DID, her own income;

This point shows, two things;

1;;Queen;s income freedom, she can spend, own income, own desires.

2;;jodha kindness nature.

Asking jalal, jodha, not hides this talk, but indirectely cleares, HERE IS A FALUT in this system.

So jodha wants, HER husband Repauation will be increased in KINGDOM. But point realted
to her Community, so she not puts in front of Jalal. But by chance when it comes, she puts
delicately.& leaves decesion to Jalal.

COIN, scene, was touchi. How a WOmen BIND her home little things. & little creations.
jalal realize, why he not understand what jodha wants from me;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

i impressed this stenance, Because when REALTIONSHIP, extreem , Siealance, speaks.
& Akdha realtionship going there. Earring scene was also good.

jalal wants this news , should be listen jodha. We want when we not know where is our realtionship going.
we want to secure them. so little things we want,our beloved will listen, because we not know
what is her or his mind saying.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Inflacaution, staze.

THIS siealant energy gives energy us, or we do good work.THIS is indirectely Meditation staze, we are working, for a honourable jone.Meditation is not a, only sitting process, many kinds of maditation.

so atleast jodha got news in Precap;;;;;;;;;;;Now she wants to come for Agra. SO Heart To HEART contactvity, wants to binding again.

😆 😆

So wait & watch.

Jalal sir class, tightely taken, he was full in Form. cunning people deserves this.

sad for jalal his realtives are very cunningful & cheatres.






Ayushi, you are absolutely right on your assessment of Jala. Someone has to point out things to him and then only his brain works. After that he gets onto the action and usually finishes it in great style. So Todarmal did the same for him, and before Jodha has done the same for him.
Someone has to give chaabi and then he starts his action!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: nabiii

From the aspect of political matter episode was spectacular..i wish this type political scenes will be remained continue from now in show.
now come to the point on new spoiler..i m guilelessly in vacillation about new spoiler..2 types think is coming in mind..
1. if ruq will fake with her pregnancy but before this has she thought its consequence? how will she avoid the outer natural symptom that happens on body with the times at the pregnancy period? till date atleast this i have gotten to know, ruq has any understanding power to feel jalal's emotion, pain or not but she huge fears his punishment..moreover,if this time again ruq genuinely becomes pregnant n begets gal baby then why cvs last time showed her miscarriage? how many times cvs will show only ruq's pregnancy where now viewers r expecting jodha's real pregnancy!! is there any sense to bring pregnancy track of ruq again?
2. ruq has already gotten to know despite johda isn't present before jalal physically nevertheless jalal can't out jodha's memory from his mind..n now jodha will b physically close of jalal so soon..hence for growing attraction again towards her n to make separation b/w jj ruq can surplus any kind of level now..therefore she will pretend fake pregnancy for coming close to jalal b/c she knows this sensitive issue will compel jalal to come near her.

If ruq fakes a pregnancy and gets caught I am sure that will be the big reason why he stops talking to her for a long long time. This is not a subject on which he likes being cheated!
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Posted: 11 years ago
Power problem again .. so replying in short before my mobile battery dies down 😆

Nice post Mansi 👏👏

Episode was good and loved the way Jalal took the decision to abolish the Teerth tax and even warned everyone in DEK that those who dont agree can leave from there 👍🏼 .. well none had the courage to oppose him and leave not even Shariff or Adham 😆😆 .. All cowards who can only make faces but not hv enough guts to stand against the grt Shehenshah's decision 😎

There was nothing much to analyse actually because entire episode was about Jalal's discovery about how common man is treated in his province regarding the tax system and then taking a historical decision in favour of common man .. So it was more of a good watch ...

I like the fact that everytime Jalal takes a decision , he remembers Jodha's words and influence on him ... it goes on to show how Jalal's change of heart today is because of Jodha's influence on his life ... This separation actually helped him to discover Jodha's importance in life ...

It seems Jodha might return only on Monday now ... Today being Friday , we might again see both longing for each other and Jodha deciding to return back and mayb precap might show her return 🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: kmmdesai


Dear Maddy,

Superb post. 👏

And you have raised an interesting point about Ruk getting a cut in tirth kar. If yes, then is it a legal cut? As a BEk, does she have a cut in tax money for harem responsibilities? Is she using this money for personal gain? Maybe this is why Jalal isolates Ruk?

Also about Jalal not knowing about the tax. As Atga said, this has been going on since even before Jalal was born. And it is difficult for one person like a King to remember all the laws passed and in motion.Also Jalal cannot read. I guess they must be having keeper of the records to keep track of everything. Hence he was surprised during Badal kajri track?

Love
Kshithi



Thanks Kshithi 😃
The point is Jalal clearly did not know about the Tirth Kar (before Sikri) even though like Adga K said this has been going on from Humayun's time. In that case HOW DID Rukayya know about this? Why would she know about a tax on Hindus? Rukayya clearly asked for Tirth Kar and Jodha paid with her necklace. So Rukayya has known about this Tirth kar for long time. Why? Why would she know of this? If she is taking a cut in this like Jaya said along with MA? No idea. She knew about this is for sure.

Also Jalal gave 2 punishments to the soldiers. One was for behaving harshly with the pilgrims. The 2nd punishment where he told to auction off their property was for CHARGING DOUBLE the amount of Tirth Kar. That is what the pilgrims were protesting against - not the kar but charging double amount. So Jalal punished them for reading false paigam and charging double.

Jalal had no idea but Rukayya did, if this is what caused Jalal to punish her again I have no idea. 😕

Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

Power problem again .. so replying in short before my mobile battery dies down 😆

Nice post Mansi 👏👏

Episode was good and loved the way Jalal took the decision to abolish the Teerth tax and even warned everyone in DEK that those who dont agree can leave from there 👍🏼 .. well none had the courage to oppose him and leave not even Shariff or Adham 😆😆 .. All cowards who can only make faces but not hv enough guts to stand against the grt Shehenshah's decision 😎

There was nothing much to analyse actually because entire episode was about Jalal's discovery about how common man is treated in his province regarding the tax system and then taking a historical decision in favour of common man .. So it was more of a good watch ...

I like the fact that everytime Jalal takes a decision , he remembers Jodha's words and influence on him ... it goes on to show how Jalal's change of heart today is because of Jodha's influence on his life ... This separation actually helped him to discover Jodha's importance in life ...

It seems Jodha might return only on Monday now ... Today being Friday , we might again see both longing for each other and Jodha deciding to return back and mayb precap might show her return 🤔

Oh God, power problem again!!!😡😡😡
Jyoti, I wonder why they do not promote these good episodes with promos. This one was a worthwhile episode to promote, na?
Yes the DEK scene was long and almost two-thirds of the whole episode and it was a good watch, especially to see the fallen faces of the maulvvis, Ruq, maham, Adham and Sharif and Munim Khan!
So Monday could be Jodha's return. I am wondering if she will arrive as surprise at Agra or whether Bharmal will first send Jalal a paigam and then Jodha will follow. Both ways it will be nice. If its a surprise that will be good to watch. If jalal knows she is going to arrive his tadap will also be good to watch!

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